Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.

Luciana · September 26, 2016, 10:07:48 PM

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So how was it

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What you'd expect
Missed it. Just watching it right now. I expect a shit show?

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Pretty much

Verbatim · September 26, 2016, 10:09:35 PM

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Missed it. Just watching it right now. I expect a shit show?

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Yeah, but not the entertaining kind. The kind that makes you question why you're spending 2 precious hours of your life on it.

Luciana · September 26, 2016, 10:11:06 PM

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Missed it. Just watching it right now. I expect a shit show?

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Yeah, but not the entertaining kind. The kind that makes you question why you're spending 2 precious hours of your life on it.

Yeah I said earlier

"I've been looking forward to this all day. I'm ready to be disappointed."

And I was right.

I loved the Obama and Romney debates, but this is just a mess. They were having two different conversations.

The only good thing to come from this will be waking up early for college tomorrow and drinking some good coffee and hearing NPR and Morning Joe talk about it.

Pippen · September 26, 2016, 10:13:06 PM

I actually made popcorn for this and now i'm disappointed

Pippen · September 26, 2016, 10:15:30 PM

And ABC was only spouting how Hillary did perfectly during the whole thing and how Trump faultered and broke apart.

They also said Trump was the condescending one....

HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE. No

SecondClass · September 26, 2016, 10:16:09 PM

Quote from: Pippen on September 26, 2016, 10:15:30 PM

And ABC was only spouting how Hillary did perfectly during the whole thing and how Trump faultered and broke apart.

They also said Trump was the condescending one....

HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE. No

Except they're completely right.

Pippen · September 26, 2016, 10:16:48 PM

Except you have horrible opinions SecondClass

Luciana · September 26, 2016, 10:17:23 PM

Quote from: Pippen on September 26, 2016, 10:13:06 PM

I actually made popcorn for this and now i'm disappointed

I was thinking of doing the same thing and I'm glad I didn't.

Nick McIntyre · September 26, 2016, 10:19:15 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on September 26, 2016, 10:16:09 PM

Quote from: Pippen on September 26, 2016, 10:15:30 PM
And ABC was only spouting how Hillary did perfectly during the whole thing and how Trump faultered and broke apart.

They also said Trump was the condescending one....

HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE. No
Except they're completely right.

Well she did have a bit of an attitude. It felt like she was trying too hard to be snarky and cool to the audience. Otherwise, most of her counter arguments against Trump's bullshit were pretty good and funny.

SecondClass · September 26, 2016, 10:19:30 PM

Quote from: Pippen on September 26, 2016, 10:16:48 PM

Except you have horrible opinions SecondClass

not as bad as yours tbh

Luciana · September 26, 2016, 10:20:22 PM

I still think her saying she was prepared to be president, like she prepared for the debate, really hit home.

Just like Trump getting on her about NAFTA really hit hard. Sadly, that was really early, and like some UFC fighter who always win in the first round, he didn't have the energy for the rest of the fight.

Jester · September 26, 2016, 10:23:05 PM

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Lester Holt is such a fucking pussy. They really need to get Vince McMahon in on this.

Luciana · September 26, 2016, 10:24:06 PM

Think I've had enough politics for the night. It feels less a field I love right now and more an annoying argument I come across on internet forums.

Pippen · September 26, 2016, 10:24:42 PM

Quote from: Luciana on September 26, 2016, 10:24:06 PM

Think I've had enough politics for the night. It feels less a field I love right now and more an annoying argument I come across on internet forums.

PSU · September 26, 2016, 10:26:28 PM

Fact is, Hillary hit all her points in this debate while Trump obviously held back. And still (according to the majority of online polls) won the debate. That should be scary for any Trump doubters.

SecondClass · September 26, 2016, 10:32:34 PM

Quote from: PSU on September 26, 2016, 10:26:28 PM

Fact is, Hillary hit all her points in this debate while Trump obviously held back. And still (according to the majority of online polls) won the debate. That should be scary for any Trump doubters.

whatever helps you sleep at night, man

Luciana · September 26, 2016, 10:33:38 PM

Quote from: PSU on September 26, 2016, 10:26:28 PM

Fact is, Hillary hit all her points in this debate while Trump obviously held back. And still (according to the majority of online polls) won the debate. That should be scary for any Trump doubters.

I honestly think nothing in these debates will change peoples opinions. I thought that much was obvious now. Trump could have face planted and things still would be the same.

Regardless, even if it does change, we won't know until about a week later, so let's let all these big wigs on TV dissect this and act like they know how things will go.

Luciana · September 26, 2016, 10:33:46 PM

One last comment

I think she turned it completely on Trump when he said she didn't have the stamina, and she said

"As soon as he travels to 112 countries and negotiates a peace deal, a cease fire, a release of dissidents, an opening of new opportunities in nations around the world, or even spends 11 hours testifying in front of a congressional committee, he can talk to me about stamina,”

Thought it was a good counter.

PSU · September 26, 2016, 10:34:29 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on September 26, 2016, 10:32:34 PM

Quote from: PSU on September 26, 2016, 10:26:28 PM
Fact is, Hillary hit all her points in this debate while Trump obviously held back. And still (according to the majority of online polls) won the debate. That should be scary for any Trump doubters.
whatever helps you sleep at night, man

Time, Fortune, NJ.com, Drudge, ect

Hope you like living in a Donald Trump led America, man.

Tyger · September 26, 2016, 10:35:07 PM

That debate was sooooo boring

Hillary tried way to hard to meme and trump just repeated himself

Plus the questions were total shit and the moderator had no control whatsoever

Luciana · September 26, 2016, 10:36:26 PM

Quote from: PSU on September 26, 2016, 10:34:29 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on September 26, 2016, 10:32:34 PM
Quote from: PSU on September 26, 2016, 10:26:28 PM
Fact is, Hillary hit all her points in this debate while Trump obviously held back. And still (according to the majority of online polls) won the debate. That should be scary for any Trump doubters.
whatever helps you sleep at night, man

Time, Fortune, NJ.com, Drudge, ect

Hope you like living in a Donald Trump led America, man.

So maintaining the status quo

got it

This election changes nothing other than the Supreme Court, so really that's the election we're playing for.

SecondClass · September 26, 2016, 10:38:25 PM

Quote from: PSU on September 26, 2016, 10:34:29 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on September 26, 2016, 10:32:34 PM
Quote from: PSU on September 26, 2016, 10:26:28 PM
Fact is, Hillary hit all her points in this debate while Trump obviously held back. And still (according to the majority of online polls) won the debate. That should be scary for any Trump doubters.
whatever helps you sleep at night, man

Time, Fortune, NJ.com, Drudge, ect

Hope you like living in a Donald Trump led America, man.

wow conservative news outlets say the conservative won

what a twist

a donald trump led america won't be america for long, it will be a giant nuclear crater

Luciana · September 26, 2016, 10:40:33 PM

Time is a conservative news outlet?

And no Trump won't cause a nuclear crater if he's president. You both overreact to the sad reality that not much will change.

Verbatim · September 26, 2016, 10:41:07 PM

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a donald trump led america won't be america for long, it will be a giant nuclear crater

Wouldn't go that far.

SecondClass · September 26, 2016, 10:41:50 PM

trump is modern hitler

calling it now

Tyger · September 26, 2016, 10:42:29 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on September 26, 2016, 10:38:25 PM

Quote from: PSU on September 26, 2016, 10:34:29 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on September 26, 2016, 10:32:34 PM
Quote from: PSU on September 26, 2016, 10:26:28 PM
Fact is, Hillary hit all her points in this debate while Trump obviously held back. And still (according to the majority of online polls) won the debate. That should be scary for any Trump doubters.
whatever helps you sleep at night, man

Time, Fortune, NJ.com, Drudge, ect

Hope you like living in a Donald Trump led America, man.
wow conservative news outlets say the conservative won

what a twist

a donald trump led america won't be america for long, it will be a giant nuclear crater

time is libbie but the only reason trump is winning there is because the top post on r/the_donald is a call for everyone to go pick trump as the winner there

Alternative Facts · September 26, 2016, 10:43:49 PM

Quote from: Luciana on September 26, 2016, 10:40:33 PM

You both overreact to the sad reality that not much will change.

I'd argue this point.

Yes, the one large impact that this President will have a direct say in is the Supreme Court - and that is an impact that will likely last decades from now. Come 2035, likely even 2040, we will still be dealing with Justices that are appointed in the next four years.

To put that into perspective, 2040 is 24 years from now. Go back 24 years in the past and look at the differences in basic lifestyle - we didn't even have widespread internet back then.

Trump or Clinton will be key to impacting policy over a large period of time. It's not immediately impactful, but crucial in the long term.

Luciana · September 26, 2016, 10:44:11 PM

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trump is winning there is because the top post on r/the_donald is a call for everyone to go pick trump as the winner there

Big fucking surprise that people are going "LEL MEME xDDDD" for things like this.

I reallllly fucking hate how mainstream "lol memememe" has gotten. I can't have conversations with some of my friends because that's all they do, and it's insanely annoying and grating. People are so fucking stupid. The fact it's penetrated our election cycle physically hurts me.

PSU · September 26, 2016, 10:52:15 PM

Also something that sparked my interest. The moderator consistently called out Trumps faults (taxes, birther issue, ect). Literally let Hillary off the hook for her multiple huge screw ups.

Like Trump said, "The best person in her campaign is the mainstream media".

Luciana · September 26, 2016, 10:52:47 PM

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You both overreact to the sad reality that not much will change.

I'd argue this point.

Yes, the one large impact that this President will have a direct say in is the Supreme Court - and that is an impact that will likely last decades from now. Come 2035, likely even 2040, we will still be dealing with Justices that are appointed in the next four years.

To put that into perspective, 2040 is 24 years from now. Go back 24 years in the past and look at the differences in basic lifestyle - we didn't even have widespread internet back then.

Trump or Clinton will be key to impacting policy over a large period of time. It's not immediately impactful, but crucial in the long term.

Laying foundations I guess.

Fair enough