Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.

More Than Mortal · September 26, 2016, 09:41:13 PM

Well that was fucking awful.

Luciana · September 26, 2016, 09:41:31 PM

Why can't we just get the Silver Fox, Anderson Cooper to moderate everything? He's great at it.

Ian · September 26, 2016, 09:42:21 PM

He's too sexy, we'd all write in his name whenever he would tell the audience to be quiet.

Quote from: Luciana on September 26, 2016, 09:41:31 PM

Why can't we just get the Silver Fox, Anderson Cooper to moderate everything? He's great at it.

Alternative Facts · September 26, 2016, 09:42:28 PM

This was a god damn shit show.

I'd say that there was no winner, but I can't.

Turkey · September 26, 2016, 09:43:01 PM

They should just mute them after their two minutes are up.

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Luciana · September 26, 2016, 09:44:01 PM

Next debate they NEED to cut the mics off of the other candidate for the 2 mins responses, because Trump couldn't stop himself from interrupting time and time again. I don't care what side you're on, I just want to hear them actually fucking talk.

Alternative Facts · September 26, 2016, 09:44:46 PM

Quote from: MeanBird on September 26, 2016, 09:43:01 PM

They should just mute them after their two minutes are up.

Why is this not a thing?

Luciana · September 26, 2016, 09:45:04 PM

Quote from: Iberian Husky on September 26, 2016, 09:43:07 PM

Quote from: Luciana on September 26, 2016, 09:40:35 PM
I think Hillary came out on top in the debate, but I obviously don't think anyone's minds have been changed.
Hillary spewed typical political bullshit and Trump spouted memes. This entire debate was a joke.

It's because the questions were as broad as the rhetoric Trump as been saying all this election cycle. When it's so broad, they (politicians in general) just run in circles. Even when Hillary went into specifics, Donald just cycled back around to generals again and it hurt the whole thing.

Turkey · September 26, 2016, 09:45:17 PM

Trump won the first 30 minutes, but he can't even compete with Clinton on policy not involving trade. He takes bait far too quickly.

Luciana · September 26, 2016, 09:45:32 PM

Quote from: Icy on September 26, 2016, 09:44:46 PM

Quote from: MeanBird on September 26, 2016, 09:43:01 PM
They should just mute them after their two minutes are up.

Why is this not a thing?

You know why. Republicans would cry out "OHHH FREEZE PEACH, MEDIA MUTING THE TRUTH!!!!"

More Than Mortal · September 26, 2016, 09:45:42 PM

What the fuck kind of debate gives the respondents two minutes to reply?

The debates ought to be longer, more structured and more strictly moderated. I'd rather see Clinton and Trump talk for 5-10 minute on their plans for taxes/jobs/race relations or whatever and give them a few minutes to make any rebuttals they want to.

Turkey · September 26, 2016, 09:47:10 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 26, 2016, 09:45:42 PM

What the fuck kind of debate gives the respondents two minutes to reply?

The debates ought to be longer, more structured and more strictly moderated. I'd rather see Clinton and Trump talk for 5-10 minute on their plans for taxes/jobs/race relations or whatever and give them a few minutes to make any rebuttals they want to.

Agreed. Debates should basically be live, side-by-side speeches or interviews. The back and forth is terrible, particularly for Trump.

Verbatim · September 26, 2016, 09:47:44 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 26, 2016, 09:45:42 PM

What the fuck kind of debate gives the respondents two minutes to reply?

The debates ought to be longer, more structured and more strictly moderated. I'd rather see Clinton and Trump talk for 5-10 minute on their plans for taxes/jobs/race relations or whatever and give them a few minutes to make any rebuttals they want to.

The problem there is the public's attention span. The average burger doesn't want to sit through that.

Ian · September 26, 2016, 09:48:05 PM

Debates should go on until they've went fully through the talking points but then TV outlets can't put a lid on it to make you watch reruns of The Big Bang Theory.

More Than Mortal · September 26, 2016, 09:48:56 PM

literally every channel should just play loops of every presidential debate

Alternative Facts · September 26, 2016, 09:52:51 PM

I'd argue that if anyone won, it would be Clinton solely on her having better outreach to the independent voters that really haven't made up their mind.

Trump was lost without his teleprompter on a lot of issues, and Clinton bordered on condescending too much.

SecondClass · September 26, 2016, 09:53:43 PM

Hillary straight up destroyed him

Luciana · September 26, 2016, 09:53:45 PM

Quote from: Icy on September 26, 2016, 09:52:51 PM

I'd argue that if anyone won, it would be Clinton solely on her having better outreach to the independent voters that really haven't made up their mind.

Trump was lost without his teleprompter on a lot of issues, and Clinton bordered on condescending too much.

Trump also just looked flustered and jumpy a bit much at times. It felt like they were having two different conversations at times.

Verbatim · September 26, 2016, 09:54:48 PM

"Will you accept the outcome of this election?"

who gives a fuck

why is that a question

Alternative Facts · September 26, 2016, 09:55:25 PM

Quote from: Luciana on September 26, 2016, 09:53:45 PM

Quote from: Icy on September 26, 2016, 09:52:51 PM
I'd argue that if anyone won, it would be Clinton solely on her having better outreach to the independent voters that really haven't made up their mind.

Trump was lost without his teleprompter on a lot of issues, and Clinton bordered on condescending too much.
Trump also just looked flustered and jumpy a bit much at times. It felt like they were having two different conversations at times.

He did during the first opening volleys, but it calmed down significantly by the end of the first half hour.

It was clear that Trump didn't practice much - his campaign all but confirmed that. He was rusty, far rustier than his primary outings. Though one could argue that Clinton is leagues ahead of his primary opponents in difficulty.

Luciana · September 26, 2016, 09:55:31 PM

Two things that really struck me as surprising from Trump standards.

1. Not denying about the tax thing, saying "it's just business" and "I was taking advantage of the laws"

2. Saying blowing up Iranian ships, or things equivalent to it, wouldn't start a war.

and somehow at the end of it said he had the temperament.

SecondClass · September 26, 2016, 09:56:01 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on September 26, 2016, 09:54:48 PM

"Will you accept the outcome of this election?"

who gives a fuck

why is that a question

Yeah, that was pretty dumb. What are they going to say, "no, I'll organize a coup"?

maverick · September 26, 2016, 09:58:13 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on September 26, 2016, 09:53:43 PM

Hillary straight up destroyed him

Thank you for the impartial analysis

SecondClass · September 26, 2016, 10:02:38 PM

Quote from: Maverick on September 26, 2016, 09:58:13 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on September 26, 2016, 09:53:43 PM
Hillary straight up destroyed him
Thank you for the impartial analysis

Well, it's true. Trump barely even answered any questions, just spun it around and answered an imaginary one. He was super vague and unspecific, and called his temperament his strongest suit while arguing with the moderator. Hillary spun all of his attacks around and called him out on his bullshit.

Where Hillary apologized and admitted she did wrong (emails), Trump stumbled and tried to justify himself (birther shit).

Verbatim · September 26, 2016, 10:03:15 PM

Anyone gonna watch the VP debates?

I know literally nothing about Kaine or Pence, so maybe that would be worth checking out. Maybe.

Risay117 · September 26, 2016, 10:03:32 PM

So how was it

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Luciana · September 26, 2016, 10:04:43 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on September 26, 2016, 10:03:15 PM

Anyone gonna watch the VP debates?

I know literally nothing about Kaine or Pence, so maybe that would be worth checking out. Maybe.

I want a debate that actually sounds like grown men discussing big boy things, so yeah I might.

Luciana · September 26, 2016, 10:06:21 PM

Quote from: Risay117 on September 26, 2016, 10:03:32 PM

So how was it

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What you'd expect

Risay117 · September 26, 2016, 10:06:49 PM

Quote from: Luciana on September 26, 2016, 10:06:21 PM

Quote from: Risay117 on September 26, 2016, 10:03:32 PM
So how was it

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What you'd expect

Missed it. Just watching it right now. I expect a shit show?

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