Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.

Verbatim · September 26, 2016, 08:40:33 PM

Quote from: MeanBird on September 26, 2016, 08:39:42 PM

tbh I think it's pretty admirable that Trump refuses to disclose his taxes. It's nobody's fucking business, and the tradition of doing so is such a garbage excuse for the humblebrag that is a candidate's tax return.

lmao

September 26, 2016, 08:40:38 PM

Quote from: MeanBird on September 26, 2016, 08:39:42 PM

tbh I think it's pretty admirable that Trump refuses to disclose his taxes. It's nobody's fucking business, and the tradition of doing so is such a garbage excuse for the humblebrag that is a candidate's tax return.

suck his dick a little bit more

thanks

Alternative Facts · September 26, 2016, 08:41:06 PM

Quote from: MeanBird on September 26, 2016, 08:39:42 PM

tbh I think it's pretty admirable that Trump refuses to disclose his taxes. It's nobody's fucking business, and the tradition of doing so is such a garbage excuse for the humblebrag that is a candidates tax return.

To be fair, I disagree in the same way I disagree with Clinton on her health forms.

If you're running for Presidency, you lose the right to claim privacy on matters such as taxes and your health. Because assuming something is up, it can and will directly impact your ability to work.

I'd rather candidates release more to ensure that we won't have issues

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More Than Mortal · September 26, 2016, 08:41:40 PM

This isn't a debate.

It's two campaign trails happening to meet in the same room.

Turkey · September 26, 2016, 08:41:41 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on September 26, 2016, 08:40:38 PM

Quote from: MeanBird on September 26, 2016, 08:39:42 PM
tbh I think it's pretty admirable that Trump refuses to disclose his taxes. It's nobody's fucking business, and the tradition of doing so is such a garbage excuse for the humblebrag that is a candidate's tax return.
suck his dick a little bit more

thanks

I hate Trump. That doesn't mean I have to support some dumbass archaic institution that flies in the face of privacy rights our country is founded upon.

Quote from: Icy on September 26, 2016, 08:41:06 PM

If you're running for Presidency, you lose the right to claim privacy on matters such as taxes and your health. Because assuming something is up, it can and will directly impact your ability to work.

They're audited by the IRS and other regulatory agencies. There's zero reason the general public needs that data. I don't think Clinton should release private medical data, either.

Verbatim · September 26, 2016, 08:43:02 PM

Quote from: MeanBird on September 26, 2016, 08:41:41 PM

I hate Trump. That doesn't mean I have to support some dumbass archaic institution that flies in the face of privacy rights our country is founded upon.

He's running for president. Fuck his privacy.

Alternative Facts · September 26, 2016, 08:44:53 PM

Quote from: MeanBird on September 26, 2016, 08:41:41 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on September 26, 2016, 08:40:38 PM
Quote from: MeanBird on September 26, 2016, 08:39:42 PM
tbh I think it's pretty admirable that Trump refuses to disclose his taxes. It's nobody's fucking business, and the tradition of doing so is such a garbage excuse for the humblebrag that is a candidate's tax return.
suck his dick a little bit more

thanks

I hate Trump. That doesn't mean I have to support some dumbass archaic institution that flies in the face of privacy rights our country is founded upon.
Quote from: Icy on September 26, 2016, 08:41:06 PM

If you're running for Presidency, you lose the right to claim privacy on matters such as taxes and your health. Because assuming something is up, it can and will directly impact your ability to work.
They're audited by the IRS and other regulatory agencies. There's zero reason the general public needs that data.

And as Holt said, IRS has said there is no reason Trump isn't able to release information while being audited.

Not to mention family of Trump has offered altered reasons as to why they shouldn't be released.

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Alternative Facts · September 26, 2016, 08:45:22 PM

Clinton is sounding too scripted here. It's a topic that should exhibit more emotion.

Turkey · September 26, 2016, 08:46:43 PM

Gun

Epidemic

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More Than Mortal · September 26, 2016, 08:47:32 PM

I'm sympathetic to Trump's emphasis on law and order.

Alternative Facts · September 26, 2016, 08:48:17 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 26, 2016, 08:47:32 PM

I'm sympathetic to Trump's emphasis on law and order.

Problem is, he's preaching to the voters that already are supporting him.

The demographics he needs to appeal to don't want to hear "law and order"

Verbatim · September 26, 2016, 08:48:30 PM

Get to the fucking solution, Trump.

Turkey · September 26, 2016, 08:49:16 PM

Stop and frisk is such a stupid hill to die upon.

"she was a very against the police judge and they took it away from her"

trump pls

Alternative Facts · September 26, 2016, 08:50:03 PM

Telling the moderator they're wrong is never good for any candidate.

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PSU · September 26, 2016, 08:50:44 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on September 26, 2016, 08:43:02 PM

Quote from: MeanBird on September 26, 2016, 08:41:41 PM
I hate Trump. That doesn't mean I have to support some dumbass archaic institution that flies in the face of privacy rights our country is founded upon.
He's running for president. Fuck his privacy.

Agreed. Make her release her health records.

Turkey · September 26, 2016, 08:51:48 PM

Lester Holt is such a fucking pussy. They really need to get Vince McMahon in on this.

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More Than Mortal · September 26, 2016, 08:52:22 PM

I like how Clinton tried to think of positive contributions of African-Americans and couldn't really think past 'vibrant churches'.

Turkey · September 26, 2016, 08:53:27 PM

tfw minorities don't matter unless you're a statistically average African-American or Mexican

Alternative Facts · September 26, 2016, 08:53:44 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 26, 2016, 08:52:22 PM

I like how Clinton tried to think of positive contributions of African-Americans and couldn't really think past 'vibrant churches'.

That's all she needs to say to garner support in many places.

But yeah, was shallow

Alternative Facts · September 26, 2016, 08:54:07 PM

Military style guns.

Clinton, pls.

Turkey · September 26, 2016, 08:54:39 PM

"police are outgunned"

jfc

Alternative Facts · September 26, 2016, 08:55:20 PM

Clinton is subtly implying bias and racism across broad swaths of America.

Shut her up

More Than Mortal · September 26, 2016, 08:55:21 PM

We could have a perfectly respectable, moderate Republican making exactly the same points on law and order and policing--bar stop-and-frisk.

But it doesn't work because it's Trump.

More Than Mortal · September 26, 2016, 08:56:19 PM

"Implicit bias".

Alternative Facts · September 26, 2016, 08:56:51 PM

The 1990's called, they want their line back.