Wait, what? What was the whole thing with Sanders that he's talking about?
Long time, how long has ISIS actually been a thing? Or were they under different names?
She says Bush was making the talks on troops leaving Iraq. Wasn't one of Obama's biggest things in "08 was trying to get troops out?
I think Trump really shined when he called Hillary out on NAFTA. When you get someone to just respond with "well that's your opinion", you've pretty much got them beat.
Also, this YouTube audio is a mess. I regret watching it here.
Quote from: Ian on September 26, 2016, 09:16:43 PMShe says Bush was making the talks on troops leaving Iraq. Wasn't one of Obama's biggest things in "08 was trying to get troops out? Bush signed an agreement to begin withdrawal in 2009, completing in 2011. Obama certainly ran on that policy, and foolishly soaked up the credit for it. Now the power vacuum is largely placed on his shoulders for failing to recognize the issues early in his presidency and being complacent with the withdrawal from Iraq. That vacuum definitely didn't create ISIS, but it helped give them a foothold to grow stronger in Syria.
Quote from: MeanBird on September 26, 2016, 09:19:49 PMQuote from: Ian on September 26, 2016, 09:16:43 PMShe says Bush was making the talks on troops leaving Iraq. Wasn't one of Obama's biggest things in "08 was trying to get troops out? Bush signed an agreement to begin withdrawal in 2009, completing in 2011. Obama certainly ran on that policy, and foolishly soaked up the credit for it. Now the power vacuum is largely placed on his shoulders for failing to recognize the issues early in his presidency and being complacent with the withdrawal from Iraq. That vacuum definitely didn't create ISIS, but it helped give them a foothold to grow stronger in Syria.To be fair, Syria happening was out of left field, and in effect, ISIS.
jeez weirdos just watch it on tv
For the public, yes. I'm sure Challenger and many others on here believe the U.S. was heavily involved in that and should have foreseen the destabilizing effects. I wouldn't judge on speculation, though.
Quote from: SecondClass on September 26, 2016, 09:21:46 PMjeez weirdos just watch it on tvAlso, Hill please stop trying to get a reaction out of the audience. They were told to shut up like eleven times before hand and twice during the actual debate.
More for the audience at home.
Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
