Trump and racism

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Your mindset is so toxic and fucked up. I'm not going to ruin my night by getting into an argument with someone who can't grasp shit second graders are taught.

Basically, I'm right, and you can't counter my arguments so you dismiss it as stupidity, because you can't handle such an assault on your worldview and mindset -- which is the real fucked up and toxic mindset here, mind you.


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A mindset that promotes hatred and exclusion over love and tolerance is the toxic one.


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A mindset that promotes hatred and exclusion over love and tolerance is the toxic one.

I agree with you, because my mindset is not negative and certainly does not promote "hatred and exclusion". Why would I want to live my life feeling like that? That's awful.
Last Edit: September 18, 2016, 11:14:13 PM by clum clum


 
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Trump isn't racist I don't think

but his rhetoric has allowed the alt right and radio tier talk to come into the mainstream, which is why we're seeing it more up front. That and the media likes to latch onto everything he says, which is telling in of itself about the media.

I'd care more about it if the alternate candidate wasn't the very definition of what is wrong with the US government.
Last Edit: September 18, 2016, 11:23:08 PM by Luciana


 
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but his rhetoric has allowed the alt right and radio tier talk to come into the mainstream

I'd argue that what he isn't saying regarding alt right groups, white supremacists, and people like David Duke is as consequential as what he is saying.

Just my two cents.



 
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but his rhetoric has allowed the alt right and radio tier talk to come into the mainstream

I'd argue that what he isn't saying regarding alt right groups, white supremacists, and people like David Duke is as consequential as what he is saying.

Just my two cents.
You mean like denouncing them and what not? Just kinda letting his supporters say it? If that's the case, I'd agree with you.


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The first four are the only ones that are even somewhat compelling but I wouldn't consider them very damning.
Last Edit: September 18, 2016, 11:47:59 PM by Maverick


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"Look at my african american over there" is just 70yr old conservative speak for "He's my nigga".  Nothin racist about it.


 
 
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Racism is still around, of course, but the term gets thrown at anything remotely conservative at this point, so I don't give it much credit until actually proven.


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so what if he's racist


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He wasn't wrong in this particular argument though.


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He wasn't wrong in this particular argument though.
I didn't say he was, I'm just reminding people that he has stupid viewpoints.


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He wasn't wrong in this particular argument though.

There was no argument, because he couldn't argue.


 
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Daily reminder that class thinks time is only a number on a clock.
He wasn't wrong in this particular argument though.

There was no argument, because he couldn't argue.
Part of that argument involved you dismissing an entire political side though with a blanket statement, so it's not like you have much to brag about.
Last Edit: September 19, 2016, 09:09:42 PM by Luciana


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Daily reminder that class thinks time is only a number on a clock.
He wasn't wrong in this particular argument though.

There was no argument, because he couldn't argue.
Part of that argument involved you making a blanket statement though, so it's not as if you were any better.

I think you're confusing blanket statement with truth.


 
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Daily reminder that class thinks time is only a number on a clock.
He wasn't wrong in this particular argument though.

There was no argument, because he couldn't argue.
Part of that argument involved you making a blanket statement though, so it's not as if you were any better.

I think you're confusing blanket statement with truth.
Hm, I see.


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He wasn't wrong in this particular argument though.

There was no argument, because he couldn't argue.
Part of that argument involved you dismissing an entire political side though, so it's not like you have much to brag about.

I have a few leftist ideas, actually. But full on leftists are always the same to me, they always resort to childish, emotional behavior and petty insults when I try to seriously argue about it. I've never been proven wrong.


 
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Daily reminder that class thinks time is only a number on a clock.
He wasn't wrong in this particular argument though.

There was no argument, because he couldn't argue.
Part of that argument involved you dismissing an entire political side though, so it's not like you have much to brag about.

I have a few leftist ideas, actually. But full on leftists are always the same to me, they always resort to childish, emotional behavior and petty insults when I try to seriously argue about it. I've never been proven wrong.
Anyone on the extreme of either end is obnoxious as hell to begin with if you ask me.
Last Edit: September 19, 2016, 09:12:25 PM by Luciana


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Daily reminder that class thinks time is only a number on a clock.
He wasn't wrong in this particular argument though.

There was no argument, because he couldn't argue.
Part of that argument involved you dismissing an entire political side though, so it's not like you have much to brag about.

I have a few leftist ideas, actually. But full on leftists are always the same to me, they always resort to childish, emotional behavior and petty insults when I try to seriously argue about it. I've never been proven wrong.
Anyone on the extreme of either end is obnoxious as hell to begin with if you ask me.

I agree. They're always riddled with problems that lead them to these ideas. You have to be a reasonable person and find a balance.


 
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Daily reminder that class thinks time is only a number on a clock.
He wasn't wrong in this particular argument though.

There was no argument, because he couldn't argue.
Part of that argument involved you dismissing an entire political side though, so it's not like you have much to brag about.

I have a few leftist ideas, actually. But full on leftists are always the same to me, they always resort to childish, emotional behavior and petty insults when I try to seriously argue about it. I've never been proven wrong.
Anyone on the extreme of either end is obnoxious as hell to begin with if you ask me.

I agree. They're always riddled with problems that lead them to these ideas. You have to be a reasonable person and find a balance.
For me it's always unfortunate that it seems they think they're always right and the logic to them arguing is "I'm right and you're wrong", and when you bring up a valid point it's just met with "lol no"

But that's just people in general. Idk, I hate people.


 
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I have a few leftist ideas, actually. But full on leftists are always the same to me, they always resort to childish, emotional behavior and petty insults when I try to seriously argue about it. I've never been proven wrong.
There's literally nothing wrong with emotional behavior and petty insults. Get thicker skin and suck it up.

Emotional arguments are the problem--and conservatives almost exclusively make emotional appeals. Leftists never do.


 
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I have a few leftist ideas, actually. But full on leftists are always the same to me, they always resort to childish, emotional behavior and petty insults when I try to seriously argue about it. I've never been proven wrong.
There's literally nothing wrong with emotional behavior and petty insults. Get thicker skin and suck it up.

Emotional arguments are the problem--and conservatives almost exclusively make emotional appeals. Lefists never do.

I'm not bothered by emotional behaviour or insults at all in that sense. To me, it's immature and pathetic, and the only thing you're accomplishing by behaving that way is poor representation of what you stand for.

And I think the opposite is true, conservatives almost exclusively make logical appeals and liberals almost exclusively make emotional appeals that cannot work in reality. But, as I said, I have some leftist views -- the reasonable ones that are logical to have.



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Daily reminder that class thinks time is only a number on a clock.
He wasn't wrong in this particular argument though.

There was no argument, because he couldn't argue.
Part of that argument involved you dismissing an entire political side though, so it's not like you have much to brag about.

I have a few leftist ideas, actually. But full on leftists are always the same to me, they always resort to childish, emotional behavior and petty insults when I try to seriously argue about it. I've never been proven wrong.
Anyone on the extreme of either end is obnoxious as hell to begin with if you ask me.

I agree. They're always riddled with problems that lead them to these ideas. You have to be a reasonable person and find a balance.
For me it's always unfortunate that it seems they think they're always right and the logic to them arguing is "I'm right and you're wrong", and when you bring up a valid point it's just met with "lol no"

But that's just people in general. Idk, I hate people.

Yeah, it's super frustrating when they plug their ears because their worldview is challenged, but that's just human nature.



 
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And I think the opposite is true, conservatives almost exclusively make logical appeals and liberals almost exclusively make emotional appeals that cannot work in reality. But, as I said, I have some leftist views -- the reasonable ones that are logical to have.
I don't know what you both are on about. I see both sides doing the same emotional appeals and things that won't work.
Last Edit: September 19, 2016, 09:33:05 PM by Luciana