TIME Magazine Person of the Year

Alternative Facts · November 19, 2015, 08:39:16 AM

It'll probably be "The French People" or "Syrian Refugees" - some large group of people that has been impacted by the events in the world.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · November 19, 2015, 09:03:34 AM

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Caitlyn Jenner
Bruce*
Caitlyn Jenner is her legal name.
Don't give a shit about HIS legal name
She's also legally female.

No, she's not. Female refers to sex.
That's why she's legally female. Her ID and other forms of identification have an F instead of an M.

She's not legally female, she's legally a woman. They're not the same, and I guarantee none of her state IDs say F because gender is an irrelevant piece of information.

Obviously I can assume that you have a driver's license, but here's a picture of a driver's license anyway. Despite the fact that there is no "gender" information on a license, it is still apparently used on your driver's license and birth certificate. The only explanation that I see is that the state uses the terms "gender" and "sex" to mean the same thing.

And that argument is entirely semantic, anyway. Nobody is arguing biology here. Saying that someone is legally a woman or female is the exact same thing, because all it implies is whether you'll be treated as a man or woman under law. I'm pretty sure Jenner's got the age maximum beat, but she wouldn't qualify for the draft anymore iirc.

Mordo · November 19, 2015, 09:04:33 AM

Anyone that didn't vote for Trump is a spineless cuck.

Turkey · November 19, 2015, 10:17:09 AM

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Caitlyn Jenner
Bruce*
Caitlyn Jenner is her legal name.
Don't give a shit about HIS legal name
She's also legally female.

No, she's not. Female refers to sex.
That's why she's legally female. Her ID and other forms of identification have an F instead of an M.

She's not legally female, she's legally a woman. They're not the same, and I guarantee none of her state IDs say F because gender is an irrelevant piece of information.

Obviously I can assume that you have a driver's license, but here's a picture of a driver's license anyway. Despite the fact that there is no "gender" information on a license, it is still apparently used on your driver's license and birth certificate. The only explanation that I see is that the state uses the terms "gender" and "sex" to mean the same thing.

And that argument is entirely semantic, anyway. Nobody is arguing biology here. Saying that someone is legally a woman or female is the exact same thing, because all it implies is whether you'll be treated as a man or woman under law. I'm pretty sure Jenner's got the age maximum beat, but she wouldn't qualify for the draft anymore iirc.

Huh, you're right about the license. Seems silly to allow them to change the sex since sex is still an important piece of information, especially in medical situations.

Anyway, I'm not arguing about anything. Transpeople remain their original sex; if a driver's license indicates sex is gender, it's incorrect. Many people still get gender and sex confused and pointing it out early prevents vitriolic discussions from happening.

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🍁 Aria 🔮 · November 19, 2015, 10:38:52 AM

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Caitlyn Jenner
Bruce*
Caitlyn Jenner is her legal name.
Don't give a shit about HIS legal name
She's also legally female.

No, she's not. Female refers to sex.
That's why she's legally female. Her ID and other forms of identification have an F instead of an M.

She's not legally female, she's legally a woman. They're not the same, and I guarantee none of her state IDs say F because gender is an irrelevant piece of information.

Obviously I can assume that you have a driver's license, but here's a picture of a driver's license anyway. Despite the fact that there is no "gender" information on a license, it is still apparently used on your driver's license and birth certificate. The only explanation that I see is that the state uses the terms "gender" and "sex" to mean the same thing.

And that argument is entirely semantic, anyway. Nobody is arguing biology here. Saying that someone is legally a woman or female is the exact same thing, because all it implies is whether you'll be treated as a man or woman under law. I'm pretty sure Jenner's got the age maximum beat, but she wouldn't qualify for the draft anymore iirc.

Huh, you're right about the license. Seems silly to allow them to change the sex since sex is still an important piece of information, especially in medical situations.

Anyway, I'm not arguing about anything. Transpeople remain their original sex; if a driver's license indicates sex is gender, it's incorrect. Many people still get gender and sex confused and pointing it out early prevents vitriolic discussions from happening.

The only place that sex really matters is medicine, as far as I'm aware, and that would still be consistent with past medical records.

And there do need to be reforms in terms of how government tackles the subject, I agree.

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · November 19, 2015, 11:09:04 AM

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Ridiculous Tales · November 19, 2015, 02:23:23 PM

LOL
I love how the Kock Brothers are second to last. Don't know why the fuck they're even on that list in the first place.

Anyway, I'm not sure who to vote for: Bruce Jenner or Dump

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Mr. Psychologist · November 19, 2015, 03:17:50 PM

I love how you can vote for Al-Baghdadi

Mr. Psychologist · November 19, 2015, 03:22:20 PM

Assad has my vote though

All these years of people making him out to be lucifer reborn, and now suddenly it's cap in hand apologies plscanwebombinyourairspace.

You can't mossad the assad, no matter how hard you try.

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Mr. Psychologist · November 19, 2015, 03:25:51 PM

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I love how you can vote for Al-Baghdadi
I mean, ISIS has pretty much been THE news for the last year and a half.

Which is true, but afaik they didn't award Bin Laden the person of the year award after 9/11.

But seeing as they have a horse in the running too, I guess they don't class people as a human exclusive event.

R o c k e t · November 19, 2015, 03:39:47 PM

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Caitlyn Jenner
Bruce*
Caitlyn Jenner is her legal name.
Don't give a shit about HIS legal name
She's also legally female.

No, she's not. Female refers to sex.
That's why she's legally female. Her ID and other forms of identification have an F instead of an M.

Don't give a shit what they say about HIM.

we get it

HIM

EMPHASIS
M
P
H
A
S
I
S

you can stop screaming now

Cindy · November 19, 2015, 03:48:27 PM

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Caitlyn Jenner
Bruce*
Caitlyn Jenner is her legal name.
Don't give a shit about HIS legal name
She's also legally female.

No, she's not. Female refers to sex.
That's why she's legally female. Her ID and other forms of identification have an F instead of an M.

Don't give a shit what they say about HIM.

Cindy · November 19, 2015, 03:49:56 PM

Seriously, cis people talk about trans people more than we do

You fuckers need to chill

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Luciana · November 19, 2015, 03:56:11 PM

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Seriously, cis people talk about trans people more than we do

You fuckers need to chill

I honestly hate the word cis.

Cindy · November 19, 2015, 03:57:16 PM

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He's a he

"Cindy why do you think I'm an asshole?"

Cindy · November 19, 2015, 03:57:32 PM

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Seriously, cis people talk about trans people more than we do

You fuckers need to chill
I honestly hate the word cis.

Well, uh

Take that up with the Romans, I guess

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Cindy · November 19, 2015, 03:59:48 PM

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He's a he
"Cindy why do you think I'm an asshole?"
Because I didn't respond to all those PM's you sent me.

I'm assuming this is b8

DAS B00T x2 · November 19, 2015, 04:12:36 PM

tbh Jenner is barely a person in my mind

Of all the washed up celebrities that the could have spotlighted for gender dysphoria...

Cindy · November 19, 2015, 04:14:13 PM

Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on November 19, 2015, 04:12:36 PM

tbh Jenner is barely a person in my mind

Of all the washed up celebrities that the could have spotlighted for gender dysphoria...

Oh, don't get me wrong, she's a piece of shit

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Cindy · November 19, 2015, 04:37:14 PM

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tbh Jenner is barely a person in my mind

Of all the washed up celebrities that the could have spotlighted for gender dysphoria...
Oh, don't get me wrong, he's a piece of shit
agreed

Verbatim · November 19, 2015, 04:39:11 PM

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Seriously, cis people talk about trans people more than we do

You fuckers need to chill
I honestly hate the word cis.

that's because it's not a word

it's a prefix

:&)
:$)
:@)

aREALgod · November 19, 2015, 05:00:41 PM

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Seriously, cis people talk about trans people more than we do

You fuckers need to chill

"CIS" people don't exist, that's a label made up by SJWs to feel better about themselves