Quote from: FatherlyNick on March 23, 2017, 06:31:00 AMQuote from: Flee on March 23, 2017, 06:23:57 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on March 23, 2017, 06:02:28 AMQuote from: Flee on March 23, 2017, 05:52:26 AMQuote from: PSU on March 22, 2017, 11:52:47 AMLet me take a shot in the dark. Muslim Refugee.Prime Minister just confirmed that the attacker was "British born".http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-39355505Thanks for the daily dose of sad prejudice, though.Is it really prejudice though?It would be like me saying that you are using Chrome to post this.An educated guess based on statistics.Is it, though? To my knowledge, there have been 0 fatalities in the US resulting from terrorist attacks committed by Muslim refugees. In the entirety of Europe, I can only think of 2 serious attacks over the past several years that involved actual refugees / asylum seekers. When considering PSU's views of politics, immigration and foreigners altogether, I am going to attribute this largely to prejudice. It's like with the attacks in Canada recently. Numerous people (him included, I can't remember) were very quick to call out immigrants and foreigners not because of statistics, but because they're anti-immigration and disagreed with Canada's policy. The moment it was revealed that our mass murderer was not Muslim or immigrant, but rather a staunch right-wing Trump supporting nationalist, things went quiet real fast.This wouldn't just be assuming I'm using Chrome. This would be "I use Firefox and think that stupid people use Chrome, so partially because I don't agree with you I'm going to say you use Chrome."Oh, refugees? I though we are talking about Muslims in general regardless where they came from.Well, PSU's post literally says "Muslim refugees". I agree that there's a strong case to be made that terrorist attacks are nowadays likely committed by Islamic extremists and that it's reasonable to suspect that (it's not at all unlikely that the perpetrator in this scenario still turns out to be Muslim), but PSU's post goes beyond that and is clearly fueled by his own prejudice and views on immigration.
Quote from: Flee on March 23, 2017, 06:23:57 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on March 23, 2017, 06:02:28 AMQuote from: Flee on March 23, 2017, 05:52:26 AMQuote from: PSU on March 22, 2017, 11:52:47 AMLet me take a shot in the dark. Muslim Refugee.Prime Minister just confirmed that the attacker was "British born".http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-39355505Thanks for the daily dose of sad prejudice, though.Is it really prejudice though?It would be like me saying that you are using Chrome to post this.An educated guess based on statistics.Is it, though? To my knowledge, there have been 0 fatalities in the US resulting from terrorist attacks committed by Muslim refugees. In the entirety of Europe, I can only think of 2 serious attacks over the past several years that involved actual refugees / asylum seekers. When considering PSU's views of politics, immigration and foreigners altogether, I am going to attribute this largely to prejudice. It's like with the attacks in Canada recently. Numerous people (him included, I can't remember) were very quick to call out immigrants and foreigners not because of statistics, but because they're anti-immigration and disagreed with Canada's policy. The moment it was revealed that our mass murderer was not Muslim or immigrant, but rather a staunch right-wing Trump supporting nationalist, things went quiet real fast.This wouldn't just be assuming I'm using Chrome. This would be "I use Firefox and think that stupid people use Chrome, so partially because I don't agree with you I'm going to say you use Chrome."Oh, refugees? I though we are talking about Muslims in general regardless where they came from.
Quote from: FatherlyNick on March 23, 2017, 06:02:28 AMQuote from: Flee on March 23, 2017, 05:52:26 AMQuote from: PSU on March 22, 2017, 11:52:47 AMLet me take a shot in the dark. Muslim Refugee.Prime Minister just confirmed that the attacker was "British born".http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-39355505Thanks for the daily dose of sad prejudice, though.Is it really prejudice though?It would be like me saying that you are using Chrome to post this.An educated guess based on statistics.Is it, though? To my knowledge, there have been 0 fatalities in the US resulting from terrorist attacks committed by Muslim refugees. In the entirety of Europe, I can only think of 2 serious attacks over the past several years that involved actual refugees / asylum seekers. When considering PSU's views of politics, immigration and foreigners altogether, I am going to attribute this largely to prejudice. It's like with the attacks in Canada recently. Numerous people (him included, I can't remember) were very quick to call out immigrants and foreigners not because of statistics, but because they're anti-immigration and disagreed with Canada's policy. The moment it was revealed that our mass murderer was not Muslim or immigrant, but rather a staunch right-wing Trump supporting nationalist, things went quiet real fast.This wouldn't just be assuming I'm using Chrome. This would be "I use Firefox and think that stupid people use Chrome, so partially because I don't agree with you I'm going to say you use Chrome."
Quote from: Flee on March 23, 2017, 05:52:26 AMQuote from: PSU on March 22, 2017, 11:52:47 AMLet me take a shot in the dark. Muslim Refugee.Prime Minister just confirmed that the attacker was "British born".http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-39355505Thanks for the daily dose of sad prejudice, though.Is it really prejudice though?It would be like me saying that you are using Chrome to post this.An educated guess based on statistics.
Quote from: PSU on March 22, 2017, 11:52:47 AMLet me take a shot in the dark. Muslim Refugee.Prime Minister just confirmed that the attacker was "British born".http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-39355505Thanks for the daily dose of sad prejudice, though.
Let me take a shot in the dark. Muslim Refugee.
Quote from: Luciana on March 23, 2017, 10:53:05 AMWell if we jump off the neutral ground for a moment since that's the safest way to play itI don't think anyone here was saying it was Islamophobic, just not to generalize any group of people in general, regardless of what they are. I'm pretty sure on this site you'd even find the most left people saying Islam needs some reform and the Middle East has some of the shittiest culture in the world in regards to oppression and lack of toleration.Yes but I take issue with Cindy coming in here and saying all this nonsense and racebaiting when this shit shouldn't even be crossing our minds. We need to be worried about our seemingly incompetent intelligence agencies who find it easy enough to spy on our phone calls but can't catch Abdul Ibn Ali Mohammed saying and doing a bunch of suspect things and already being on a watchlist. What the fuck is going on? It feels like they're just letting these attacks happen.
Well if we jump off the neutral ground for a moment since that's the safest way to play itI don't think anyone here was saying it was Islamophobic, just not to generalize any group of people in general, regardless of what they are. I'm pretty sure on this site you'd even find the most left people saying Islam needs some reform and the Middle East has some of the shittiest culture in the world in regards to oppression and lack of toleration.
Quote from: FatherlyNick on March 23, 2017, 11:06:49 AMQuote from: challengerX on March 23, 2017, 11:03:36 AMQuote from: Luciana on March 23, 2017, 10:53:05 AMWell if we jump off the neutral ground for a moment since that's the safest way to play itI don't think anyone here was saying it was Islamophobic, just not to generalize any group of people in general, regardless of what they are. I'm pretty sure on this site you'd even find the most left people saying Islam needs some reform and the Middle East has some of the shittiest culture in the world in regards to oppression and lack of toleration.Yes but I take issue with Cindy coming in here and saying all this nonsense and racebaiting when this shit shouldn't even be crossing our minds. We need to be worried about our seemingly incompetent intelligence agencies who find it easy enough to spy on our phone calls but can't catch Abdul Ibn Ali Mohammed saying and doing a bunch of suspect things and already being on a watchlist. What the fuck is going on? It feels like they're just letting these attacks happen.They would rather see if Trump is using 1-ply or 2-ply toilet paper than chase people who clearly are off the rails and openly say that they are "only here to fuck your women and kill your men"Your reactionary bullshit is just as bad.
Quote from: challengerX on March 23, 2017, 11:03:36 AMQuote from: Luciana on March 23, 2017, 10:53:05 AMWell if we jump off the neutral ground for a moment since that's the safest way to play itI don't think anyone here was saying it was Islamophobic, just not to generalize any group of people in general, regardless of what they are. I'm pretty sure on this site you'd even find the most left people saying Islam needs some reform and the Middle East has some of the shittiest culture in the world in regards to oppression and lack of toleration.Yes but I take issue with Cindy coming in here and saying all this nonsense and racebaiting when this shit shouldn't even be crossing our minds. We need to be worried about our seemingly incompetent intelligence agencies who find it easy enough to spy on our phone calls but can't catch Abdul Ibn Ali Mohammed saying and doing a bunch of suspect things and already being on a watchlist. What the fuck is going on? It feels like they're just letting these attacks happen.They would rather see if Trump is using 1-ply or 2-ply toilet paper than chase people who clearly are off the rails and openly say that they are "only here to fuck your women and kill your men"
Quote from: Luciana on March 23, 2017, 10:53:05 AMIt feels like they're just letting these attacks happen.
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