There goes the chances of refugees getting any help

Jester · November 16, 2015, 09:15:27 AM

Thanks, you ragheaded fucks

Alternative Facts · November 16, 2015, 09:15:46 AM

That was their plan.

Jester · November 16, 2015, 09:19:04 AM

Quote from: Fagcicle on November 16, 2015, 09:15:46 AM

That was their plan.

And they succeeded

Luciana · November 16, 2015, 09:20:03 AM

Quote from: Fagcicle on November 16, 2015, 09:15:46 AM

That was their plan.

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · November 16, 2015, 10:53:41 AM

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Gatortag · November 16, 2015, 08:32:59 PM

Some Governors are flat out saying "Fuck you Obama" They aren't letting them in.

Governor Jindal signed executive orders so they can't get into Louisiana.

Winy · November 16, 2015, 08:36:13 PM

Quote from: Θεμιστοκλῆς on November 16, 2015, 10:53:41 AM

They're only refugees if they plan to go back when the dust has settled.

Good luck getting rid of them.

>Implying the "Dust" can "Settle" within any of their lifetimes.

Syria will still be a shithole long after this generation of refugees have died. Put yourself in their shoes; would you honestly want to go back to such a despot when you've found a new home that's sixty times better?

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · November 16, 2015, 08:45:20 PM

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BaconShelf · November 17, 2015, 02:30:49 AM

Quote from: Θεμιστοκλῆς on November 16, 2015, 08:45:20 PM

Quote from: Winy on November 16, 2015, 08:36:13 PM
Quote from: Θεμιστοκλῆς on November 16, 2015, 10:53:41 AM
They're only refugees if they plan to go back when the dust has settled.

Good luck getting rid of them.
>Implying the "Dust" can "Settle" within any of their lifetimes.

Syria will still be a shithole long after this generation of refugees have died. Put yourself in their shoes; would you honestly want to go back to such a despot when you've found a new home that's sixty times better?
Okay cool, so call them what they are if they aren't going back- migrants.

A refugee takes refuge, not residence. You don't get to take the title just because it makes your cause look prettier politically.

Sadly, you do now.

eggsalad · November 17, 2015, 03:16:29 AM

Quote from: Θεμιστοκλῆς on November 16, 2015, 08:45:20 PM

Quote from: Winy on November 16, 2015, 08:36:13 PM
Quote from: Θεμιστοκλῆς on November 16, 2015, 10:53:41 AM
They're only refugees if they plan to go back when the dust has settled.

Good luck getting rid of them.
>Implying the "Dust" can "Settle" within any of their lifetimes.

Syria will still be a shithole long after this generation of refugees have died. Put yourself in their shoes; would you honestly want to go back to such a despot when you've found a new home that's sixty times better?
Okay cool, so call them what they are if they aren't going back- migrants.

A refugee takes refuge, not residence. You don't get to take the title just because it makes your cause look prettier politically.

ref·uge
ˈrefˌyo͞oj,ˈrefˌyo͞oZH
noun
a condition of being safe or sheltered from pursuit, danger, or trouble.

ref·use belongs in the trash, not posted here. You don't get to act like this post isn't shit because you don't know english.

Septy · November 17, 2015, 04:36:03 AM

Since 2009 the U.S has taken in about 500,000 refugees. How many refugee-related terrorist attacks have we had in the last 6 years again? Now nobody wants to let in only 10,000 because they're mostly Muslim. Let's not forget that over half of these refugees are children.

I fucking love this country

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · November 17, 2015, 06:25:07 AM

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DAS B00T x2 · November 17, 2015, 06:58:27 AM

Am I just an asshole for thinking that these moderate Muslims that are fleeing from Islamic government tyranny should group together and fight for their own land back instead?

Sandtrap · November 17, 2015, 07:33:34 AM

Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on November 17, 2015, 06:58:27 AM

Am I just an asshole for thinking that these moderate Muslims that are fleeing from Islamic government tyranny should group together and fight for their own land back instead?

Not really. Look at their numbers. Millions of them. They're the ones who let their various shit governments rise into power and didn't do anything to stop it. There's so many of them in number, that they actually could form a resistance at this rate, since they're already grouping together.

But no. Their solution is to let their country collapse without a fight. I understand there's women and kids as part of the refugee crowds. They should be sent away, unless of course they wanted to fight too. It'll never happen though. Too many mistakes at this point. That whole mess is just gonna get messier.

eggsalad · November 17, 2015, 09:34:29 AM

Quote from: Θεμιστοκλῆς on November 17, 2015, 06:25:07 AM

Where'd you pull that definition from? Webster? Your asshole? . I've always heard it in that context and have always encountered others with the same understanding. I'm sorry the common conversational understanding offends your sensibilities.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/refuge
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/refuge
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/refuge
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/refuge

I'm hard pressed to find an instance where you're right. Other than you saying you are.

Super Irish · November 17, 2015, 10:13:22 AM

Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on November 17, 2015, 06:58:27 AM

Am I just an asshole for thinking that these moderate Muslims that are fleeing from Islamic government tyranny should group together and fight for their own land back instead?

That's what quite a lot did in Syria IIRC, which is why support for any one group was stalled as no-one could tell who were "the good guys" of the rebels.

We can see how that went.

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · November 17, 2015, 11:17:29 AM

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Winy · November 17, 2015, 05:01:52 PM

Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on November 17, 2015, 06:58:27 AM

Am I just an asshole for thinking that these moderate Muslims that are fleeing from Islamic government tyranny should group together and fight for their own land back instead?

Yes. Nobody is obligated to fight.

Anonymous (User Deleted) · November 17, 2015, 05:03:41 PM

Quote from: Luciana on November 16, 2015, 09:20:03 AM

Quote from: Fagcicle on November 16, 2015, 09:15:46 AM
That was their plan.

Quote from: The Coon Goon on November 16, 2015, 09:19:04 AM

And they succeeded

DAS B00T x2 · November 17, 2015, 05:14:59 PM

Quote from: SuperIrish on November 17, 2015, 10:13:22 AM

Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on November 17, 2015, 06:58:27 AM
Am I just an asshole for thinking that these moderate Muslims that are fleeing from Islamic government tyranny should group together and fight for their own land back instead?

That's what quite a lot did in Syria IIRC, which is why support for any one group was stalled as no-one could tell who were "the good guys" of the rebels.

We can see how that went.

Wasn't that more to do with factions like the FSA quickly becoming radicalized and/or crushed by Government forces?

Cindy · November 17, 2015, 05:26:44 PM

>Insurgent uprising in Islamic country
>Primarily conscripts new members through two methods: outsourcing with propaganda to far-off countries and threatening the local citizens
>Local citizens flee to avoid being forcibly conscripted into ISIS
>Foreign countries refuse to let them flee because they could be part of ISIS

It's like people want a united Levant.

Super Irish · November 17, 2015, 05:46:18 PM

Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on November 17, 2015, 05:14:59 PM

Quote from: SuperIrish on November 17, 2015, 10:13:22 AM
Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on November 17, 2015, 06:58:27 AM
Am I just an asshole for thinking that these moderate Muslims that are fleeing from Islamic government tyranny should group together and fight for their own land back instead?

That's what quite a lot did in Syria IIRC, which is why support for any one group was stalled as no-one could tell who were "the good guys" of the rebels.

We can see how that went.
Wasn't that more to do with factions like the FSA quickly becoming radicalized and/or crushed by Government forces?

That is probably true, but I'm sure they would've loved some decent equipment.

Just look at the Kurds(?) with their support, there's a few gifs of TOW's launching Syrian T-72 turrets into orbit.

Braixen · November 17, 2015, 07:33:30 PM

Fuck em to death

Incan · November 18, 2015, 05:15:07 AM

I feel it's worth mentioning all the attackers in France weren't refugees.

challengerX · November 18, 2015, 05:53:29 AM

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DAS B00T x2 · November 18, 2015, 06:09:51 AM

Right the fuck on, Chally.
I love how Saudi hasn't taken in one refugee.

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · November 18, 2015, 06:21:14 AM

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Incan · November 18, 2015, 07:48:34 AM

Quote from: challengerX on November 18, 2015, 05:56:40 AM

America should not accept any refugees and neither should Europe.

Why should we have to deal with this mess? Why don't the Saudis take them? They have fucking air conditioned tents that are completely empty right now where the refugees can wait safely then return to their countries.

Want to immigrate? Get a fucking visa and wait in line like everybody else. Fucking cowards should be fighting ISIS anyway.

Do you want more people to join ISIS? Because this is how you get more people to join ISIS. Notice you also have a picture of the Quran being burned as your avatar as well.

You're playing right into ISIS's hand, you're doing exactly what they want you to do.

challengerX · November 18, 2015, 08:11:34 AM

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