The Truth About Male Privilege, by. Stefan Molyneux

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We always say to fight fire, you must use fire. This is wrong. Fighting fire with fire will leave scars and a new flame will rise. We must instead use water. It is the opposite of fire, it extinguishes the fire, it cools, it refreshes, it heals. We are made up of 70% water, we are not made up of 70% fire. Please practice what we truly are
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>Stefan Molyneux

LOL

This is the Serious board, and here is the door.


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Ah but Verb at least let Forgewolf explain his thoughts. You need to provide more content to succeed in Serious other than just "thoughts", so who is this "Stefan Molyneux" and what does his book say?


 
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everything you need to know about stefan molyneux
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"Women who choose the assholes will fucking end this race. They will fucking end this human race if we don't start holding them a-fucking-ccountable. [...] Look. Women who choose assholes guarantee child abuse. Women who choose assholes guarantee criminality. Sociopathy. Politicians. All the cold-hearted jerks who run the world came out of the vaginas of women who married assholes. And I don't know how to make the world a better place without holding women accountable for choosing ASSHOLES! Your dad was an asshole because your mother chose him. Because it works on so many women! If 'asshole' wasn't a great reproductive strategy, it would've been gone long ago. Women keep that black bastard flame alive. They cup their hand around it. They protect it with their bodies. They keep the evil of the species going by continually choosing these guys! If being an asshole didn't get women, there would be no assholes left! If women chose nice guys over assholes, we would have a glorious and peaceful world in one generation. Women determine the personality traits of the men because women choose who to have sex with, and who to have children with, and who to expose those children to. I get that you're angry at your dad, and you have every reason to be angry at your dad. Your dad is who he is, fundamentally, because your mother was willing to fuck him and have you. Willing and eager to fuck the monster. Stop fucking monsters, we get a great world. Keep fucking monsters, we get catastrophes. We get war, we get nuclear weapons, we get national debts, we get incarcerations and prison guards, and all the other floored assholes who rule the world. Women worship at the feet of the devil and wonder why the world is evil. And then, you know what they say? 'We're victims! Poor us!' And some women are, absolutely. But dear God in heaven. Men will become whatever women will want them to become. Because women are the gatekeepers. Men will become whatever women want them to become. 'Oh, you want us to have a tan? We'll have a tan! Oh, do you like six-packs? We'll do six million sit-ups! Oh, you want money? I'll go make money!' Nothing wrong with it. It's the nature of being a mammal. Masculinity is a shadow of feminine desire. It moves as feminine desires move. Every woman who breeds with assholes is a traitor to virtue, and more than a colluder, but a creator of evil."
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We always say to fight fire, you must use fire. This is wrong. Fighting fire with fire will leave scars and a new flame will rise. We must instead use water. It is the opposite of fire, it extinguishes the fire, it cools, it refreshes, it heals. We are made up of 70% water, we are not made up of 70% fire. Please practice what we truly are
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"Women who choose the assholes will fucking end this race. They will fucking end this human race if we don't start holding them a-fucking-ccountable. [...] Look. Women who choose assholes guarantee child abuse. Women who choose assholes guarantee criminality. Sociopathy. Politicians. All the cold-hearted jerks who run the world came out of the vaginas of women who married assholes. And I don't know how to make the world a better place without holding women accountable for choosing ASSHOLES! Your dad was an asshole because your mother chose him. Because it works on so many women! If 'asshole' wasn't a great reproductive strategy, it would've been gone long ago. Women keep that black bastard flame alive. They cup their hand around it. They protect it with their bodies. They keep the evil of the species going by continually choosing these guys! If being an asshole didn't get women, there would be no assholes left! If women chose nice guys over assholes, we would have a glorious and peaceful world in one generation. Women determine the personality traits of the men because women choose who to have sex with, and who to have children with, and who to expose those children to. I get that you're angry at your dad, and you have every reason to be angry at your dad. Your dad is who he is, fundamentally, because your mother was willing to fuck him and have you. Willing and eager to fuck the monster. Stop fucking monsters, we get a great world. Keep fucking monsters, we get catastrophes. We get war, we get nuclear weapons, we get national debts, we get incarcerations and prison guards, and all the other floored assholes who rule the world. Women worship at the feet of the devil and wonder why the world is evil. And then, you know what they say? 'We're victims! Poor us!' And some women are, absolutely. But dear God in heaven. Men will become whatever women will want them to become. Because women are the gatekeepers. Men will become whatever women want them to become. 'Oh, you want us to have a tan? We'll have a tan! Oh, do you like six-packs? We'll do six million sit-ups! Oh, you want money? I'll go make money!' Nothing wrong with it. It's the nature of being a mammal. Masculinity is a shadow of feminine desire. It moves as feminine desires move. Every woman who breeds with assholes is a traitor to virtue, and more than a colluder, but a creator of evil."
So this one opinion of his, (which he usually backs up with some factual information) totally discredits him in the past, present and future?

Sure, he gets carried away sometimes..

Ah but Verb at least let Forgewolf explain his thoughts. You need to provide more content to succeed in Serious other than just "thoughts", so who is this "Stefan Molyneux" and what does his book say?

I was asking for everyone else's thoughts? And I don't think he has this in book form
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everything you need to know about stefan molyneux
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"Women who choose the assholes will fucking end this race. They will fucking end this human race if we don't start holding them a-fucking-ccountable. [...] Look. Women who choose assholes guarantee child abuse. Women who choose assholes guarantee criminality. Sociopathy. Politicians. All the cold-hearted jerks who run the world came out of the vaginas of women who married assholes. And I don't know how to make the world a better place without holding women accountable for choosing ASSHOLES! Your dad was an asshole because your mother chose him. Because it works on so many women! If 'asshole' wasn't a great reproductive strategy, it would've been gone long ago. Women keep that black bastard flame alive. They cup their hand around it. They protect it with their bodies. They keep the evil of the species going by continually choosing these guys! If being an asshole didn't get women, there would be no assholes left! If women chose nice guys over assholes, we would have a glorious and peaceful world in one generation. Women determine the personality traits of the men because women choose who to have sex with, and who to have children with, and who to expose those children to. I get that you're angry at your dad, and you have every reason to be angry at your dad. Your dad is who he is, fundamentally, because your mother was willing to fuck him and have you. Willing and eager to fuck the monster. Stop fucking monsters, we get a great world. Keep fucking monsters, we get catastrophes. We get war, we get nuclear weapons, we get national debts, we get incarcerations and prison guards, and all the other floored assholes who rule the world. Women worship at the feet of the devil and wonder why the world is evil. And then, you know what they say? 'We're victims! Poor us!' And some women are, absolutely. But dear God in heaven. Men will become whatever women will want them to become. Because women are the gatekeepers. Men will become whatever women want them to become. 'Oh, you want us to have a tan? We'll have a tan! Oh, do you like six-packs? We'll do six million sit-ups! Oh, you want money? I'll go make money!' Nothing wrong with it. It's the nature of being a mammal. Masculinity is a shadow of feminine desire. It moves as feminine desires move. Every woman who breeds with assholes is a traitor to virtue, and more than a colluder, but a creator of evil."

*cough*
http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=37364.0
No one knows what ad hominem is, either. A lot of people just think it's a generic insult, but it's not.


On topic:

I think it's just as wrongheaded to attack the subject of male privilege with the same tactic of 'but we have it worse' that his opponents use. It's not a competition to see who has the most privilege in certain aspects of society. We are not egalitarian, and it's very difficult (I'd say impossible) to qualify this data into something meaningful. It shuts down legitimate discussion and bullies its way out of talking about areas where society can improve.
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So this one opinion of his, (which he usually backs up with some factual information) totally discredits him in the past, present and future?
If you're gonna follow a guy who talks like that, be my guest.

But if you really need more reasons as to why this guy isn't worth listening to, watch this...


 
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*cough*
http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=37364.0
lol

Who cares? Why am I gonna listen to an MRA talk about "male privilege" when he's gonna say some asinine shit like that?


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*cough*
http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=37364.0
lol

Who cares? Why am I gonna listen to an MRA talk about "male privilege" when he's gonna say some asinine shit like that?

Because it's a tad bit hypocritical to constantly be pointing out the flaws in peoples' arguments while simultaneously rejecting a cogent and thorough discussion backed with cited data because he went on a stupid rant about a completely different subject. Of course you're welcome to dismiss him, and I think it's silly to expect anyone here to watch more than 5 minutes of that video, but you can't strut around as a paragon of logic while falling victim to your own strong personal biases.


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Quote from: Forgewolf link=topic=38111.msg732751#msg732751
I was asking for everyone else's thoughts? And I don't think he has this in book form

Ah okay I was just trying to help you out. Yeah I had never heard of that guy before and just assumed you were referencing a book. Should have known I would make an ass of myself. <3
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We always say to fight fire, you must use fire. This is wrong. Fighting fire with fire will leave scars and a new flame will rise. We must instead use water. It is the opposite of fire, it extinguishes the fire, it cools, it refreshes, it heals. We are made up of 70% water, we are not made up of 70% fire. Please practice what we truly are
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I was asking for everyone else's thoughts? And I don't think he has this in book form

Ah okay I was just trying to help you out. Yeah I had never heard of that guy before and just assumed you were referencing a book. Should have known I would make an ass of myself. <3
It's all good, no negativity taken. Although, Verbatmin seems salty as always, haha


 
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Because it's a tad bit hypocritical to constantly be pointing out the flaws in peoples' arguments while simultaneously rejecting a cogent and thorough discussion backed with cited data because he went on a stupid rant about a completely different subject. Of course you're welcome to dismiss him, and I think it's silly to expect anyone here to watch more than 5 minutes of that video, but you can't strut around as a paragon of logic while falling victim to your own strong personal biases.
i don't think it's completely off-subject, but you know, whatever, fair point i guess

i really just don't think any time should be spent on this guy

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that's creative
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We always say to fight fire, you must use fire. This is wrong. Fighting fire with fire will leave scars and a new flame will rise. We must instead use water. It is the opposite of fire, it extinguishes the fire, it cools, it refreshes, it heals. We are made up of 70% water, we are not made up of 70% fire. Please practice what we truly are
Because it's a tad bit hypocritical to constantly be pointing out the flaws in peoples' arguments while simultaneously rejecting a cogent and thorough discussion backed with cited data because he went on a stupid rant about a completely different subject. Of course you're welcome to dismiss him, and I think it's silly to expect anyone here to watch more than 5 minutes of that video, but you can't strut around as a paragon of logic while falling victim to your own strong personal biases.
i don't think it's completely off-subject, but you know, whatever, fair point i guess

i really just don't think any time should be spent on this guy

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that's creative
I honestly don't see your name much in the real world, so I apologise on this misspelling.


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So this one opinion of his, (which he usually backs up with some factual information) totally discredits him in the past, present and future?
If you're gonna follow a guy who talks like that, be my guest.

This is all very ironic, considering your mentor.


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We always say to fight fire, you must use fire. This is wrong. Fighting fire with fire will leave scars and a new flame will rise. We must instead use water. It is the opposite of fire, it extinguishes the fire, it cools, it refreshes, it heals. We are made up of 70% water, we are not made up of 70% fire. Please practice what we truly are
So this one opinion of his, (which he usually backs up with some factual information) totally discredits him in the past, present and future?
If you're gonna follow a guy who talks like that, be my guest.

This is all very ironic, considering your mentor.
His or mine? Closest I got to a mentor is Buddha himself.. but he's been dead a long, long time now.


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So this one opinion of his, (which he usually backs up with some factual information) totally discredits him in the past, present and future?
If you're gonna follow a guy who talks like that, be my guest.

This is all very ironic, considering your mentor.
His or mine? Closest I got to a mentor is Buddha himself.. but he's been dead a long, long time now.

His - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS5MXpjQK2d0K2D5bnIKw4A


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We always say to fight fire, you must use fire. This is wrong. Fighting fire with fire will leave scars and a new flame will rise. We must instead use water. It is the opposite of fire, it extinguishes the fire, it cools, it refreshes, it heals. We are made up of 70% water, we are not made up of 70% fire. Please practice what we truly are
So this one opinion of his, (which he usually backs up with some factual information) totally discredits him in the past, present and future?
If you're gonna follow a guy who talks like that, be my guest.

This is all very ironic, considering your mentor.
His or mine? Closest I got to a mentor is Buddha himself.. but he's been dead a long, long time now.

His - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS5MXpjQK2d0K2D5bnIKw4A
Who da hell is dat!?


 
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So this one opinion of his, (which he usually backs up with some factual information) totally discredits him in the past, present and future?
If you're gonna follow a guy who talks like that, be my guest.

This is all very ironic, considering your mentor.
His or mine? Closest I got to a mentor is Buddha himself.. but he's been dead a long, long time now.

His - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS5MXpjQK2d0K2D5bnIKw4A
Who da hell is dat!?

A dude.


 
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This is all very ironic, considering your mentor.
if by agreeing with one of his philosophies means i'm one of his followers, then okay


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This is all very ironic, considering your mentor.
if by agreeing with one of his philosophies means i'm one of his followers, then okay

Hypocrite


 
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do you know how often OP praises molyneux


 
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I watched this yesterday.  His statistics are correct, but goddamn is he cocky about the fact that men are disadvantaged financially.

The fact still remains that, in a social environment, women aren't typically taken as seriously as men.  The whole "priviledge" thing isn't a scale that tips one way or the other.  It's more complex than that, and the fact that Stefan is oversimplifying that doesn't help anyone.


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We always say to fight fire, you must use fire. This is wrong. Fighting fire with fire will leave scars and a new flame will rise. We must instead use water. It is the opposite of fire, it extinguishes the fire, it cools, it refreshes, it heals. We are made up of 70% water, we are not made up of 70% fire. Please practice what we truly are
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do you know how often OP praises molyneux
I specifically praise the videos where he backs up the good game of talk with factual information.