Quote from: Kalusta on July 26, 2016, 02:56:43 PMIslam is an abtsract concept incapable of physical action.Nobody's claiming it is.
Islam is an abtsract concept incapable of physical action.
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on July 27, 2016, 11:03:27 AMAs much as I hate to say this, Islam IS the problem. Not in what is written (though there are some passages that raise eyebrows) but in how it's been interpreted from the start. Some follow strictly Mohammed. Others some family member (Sunni/Shia.) that alone has been enough for wholesale slaughter. While yes, Christianity has had its share, the conflict has been nowhere near what it's been in the ME. I know that 99.999999% of the people just want to live their lives. The problem is that they also don't want to stand up for any peace in their lives either. This is weird coming from me, an atheist, but one massive thing Christianity has over Islam is that the ONLY way to heaven in Christianity is by having faith in Jesus. In Islam there are many other ways, including martyrdom. Dying for Allah is enough. It always has been. Erase your sins by dying in some spectacular manner. I have no idea how this could be fixed. More war and killing isn't the answer. Spreading secularism also isn't, simply because we aren't willing to put up with the attacks from the fundamentalists until it takes root. It's a tough one. Terraform Mars, let the Muslims name it and ship it there? I dunnoDude why do your solutions always make the problem 10 million times worse?Islam is a problem so let's give them a planet all to themselves so they can fucking invade us and start an interplanetary crusade?
As much as I hate to say this, Islam IS the problem. Not in what is written (though there are some passages that raise eyebrows) but in how it's been interpreted from the start. Some follow strictly Mohammed. Others some family member (Sunni/Shia.) that alone has been enough for wholesale slaughter. While yes, Christianity has had its share, the conflict has been nowhere near what it's been in the ME. I know that 99.999999% of the people just want to live their lives. The problem is that they also don't want to stand up for any peace in their lives either. This is weird coming from me, an atheist, but one massive thing Christianity has over Islam is that the ONLY way to heaven in Christianity is by having faith in Jesus. In Islam there are many other ways, including martyrdom. Dying for Allah is enough. It always has been. Erase your sins by dying in some spectacular manner. I have no idea how this could be fixed. More war and killing isn't the answer. Spreading secularism also isn't, simply because we aren't willing to put up with the attacks from the fundamentalists until it takes root. It's a tough one. Terraform Mars, let the Muslims name it and ship it there? I dunno
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on July 27, 2016, 11:27:12 AMQuote from: challengerX on July 27, 2016, 11:18:44 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on July 27, 2016, 11:03:27 AMAs much as I hate to say this, Islam IS the problem. Not in what is written (though there are some passages that raise eyebrows) but in how it's been interpreted from the start. Some follow strictly Mohammed. Others some family member (Sunni/Shia.) that alone has been enough for wholesale slaughter. While yes, Christianity has had its share, the conflict has been nowhere near what it's been in the ME. I know that 99.999999% of the people just want to live their lives. The problem is that they also don't want to stand up for any peace in their lives either. This is weird coming from me, an atheist, but one massive thing Christianity has over Islam is that the ONLY way to heaven in Christianity is by having faith in Jesus. In Islam there are many other ways, including martyrdom. Dying for Allah is enough. It always has been. Erase your sins by dying in some spectacular manner. I have no idea how this could be fixed. More war and killing isn't the answer. Spreading secularism also isn't, simply because we aren't willing to put up with the attacks from the fundamentalists until it takes root. It's a tough one. Terraform Mars, let the Muslims name it and ship it there? I dunnoDude why do your solutions always make the problem 10 million times worse?Islam is a problem so let's give them a planet all to themselves so they can fucking invade us and start an interplanetary crusade?That's easy. We eliminate the Martian sandworms before they get there. But seriously, I have no solution. The only real one is to plant the seeds of secularism and put up with the attacks until they take root. Islam has some serious problems before it can be incorporated into world culture. Shit, colonialism was better than thisI think America and Europe should actually invade and colonize the ME. Destroy their culture and beliefs. Make them a minority in their own countries.
Quote from: challengerX on July 27, 2016, 11:18:44 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on July 27, 2016, 11:03:27 AMAs much as I hate to say this, Islam IS the problem. Not in what is written (though there are some passages that raise eyebrows) but in how it's been interpreted from the start. Some follow strictly Mohammed. Others some family member (Sunni/Shia.) that alone has been enough for wholesale slaughter. While yes, Christianity has had its share, the conflict has been nowhere near what it's been in the ME. I know that 99.999999% of the people just want to live their lives. The problem is that they also don't want to stand up for any peace in their lives either. This is weird coming from me, an atheist, but one massive thing Christianity has over Islam is that the ONLY way to heaven in Christianity is by having faith in Jesus. In Islam there are many other ways, including martyrdom. Dying for Allah is enough. It always has been. Erase your sins by dying in some spectacular manner. I have no idea how this could be fixed. More war and killing isn't the answer. Spreading secularism also isn't, simply because we aren't willing to put up with the attacks from the fundamentalists until it takes root. It's a tough one. Terraform Mars, let the Muslims name it and ship it there? I dunnoDude why do your solutions always make the problem 10 million times worse?Islam is a problem so let's give them a planet all to themselves so they can fucking invade us and start an interplanetary crusade?That's easy. We eliminate the Martian sandworms before they get there. But seriously, I have no solution. The only real one is to plant the seeds of secularism and put up with the attacks until they take root. Islam has some serious problems before it can be incorporated into world culture. Shit, colonialism was better than this
Quote from: Ender on July 30, 2016, 07:16:51 PMman I'm getting really tired of this shitI heard you're thicc now
man I'm getting really tired of this shit
tbh as much as I hate what colonialism did to other cultures, I wouldn't mind it at all in this scenariofull blown conquer and missionary conversion, severe punishment for anyone who defies the newly established marshal law
Quote from: gats on July 31, 2016, 02:50:12 AMQuote from: Varg on July 31, 2016, 02:10:34 AMtbh as much as I hate what colonialism did to other cultures, I wouldn't mind it at all in this scenariofull blown conquer and missionary conversion, severe punishment for anyone who defies the newly established marshal lawcolonise where exactly?any muslim dominated countries where the population is either the majority or the government is ruled under islam
Quote from: Varg on July 31, 2016, 02:10:34 AMtbh as much as I hate what colonialism did to other cultures, I wouldn't mind it at all in this scenariofull blown conquer and missionary conversion, severe punishment for anyone who defies the newly established marshal lawcolonise where exactly?
Quote from: gats on July 31, 2016, 03:12:27 AMQuote from: Varg on July 31, 2016, 03:06:17 AMQuote from: gats on July 31, 2016, 02:50:12 AMQuote from: Varg on July 31, 2016, 02:10:34 AMtbh as much as I hate what colonialism did to other cultures, I wouldn't mind it at all in this scenariofull blown conquer and missionary conversion, severe punishment for anyone who defies the newly established marshal lawcolonise where exactly?any muslim dominated countries where the population is either the majority or the government is ruled under islam this is hilariouswhat's hilarious is the fact that you're obviously quite offended by this
Quote from: Varg on July 31, 2016, 03:06:17 AMQuote from: gats on July 31, 2016, 02:50:12 AMQuote from: Varg on July 31, 2016, 02:10:34 AMtbh as much as I hate what colonialism did to other cultures, I wouldn't mind it at all in this scenariofull blown conquer and missionary conversion, severe punishment for anyone who defies the newly established marshal lawcolonise where exactly?any muslim dominated countries where the population is either the majority or the government is ruled under islam this is hilarious
the SJWs would cry though especially with the refugees scattered everywhere so it's not like that's actually feasible unless Russia (idgaf just someone powerful enough to smack them into obedience) or some shit gets the balls to do itthey're a threat to the world, they can regain independence when they stop being barbarians
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 31, 2016, 09:56:39 AMQuote from: Varg on July 31, 2016, 02:21:07 AMthe SJWs would cry though especially with the refugees scattered everywhere so it's not like that's actually feasible unless Russia (idgaf just someone powerful enough to smack them into obedience) or some shit gets the balls to do itthey're a threat to the world, they can regain independence when they stop being barbariansWatch yourself son, that's exactly how I feel about blacks in America.black people aren't killing thousands of innocent civilians all over the world based on some ideologynor are they strapping bombs to themselves
Quote from: Varg on July 31, 2016, 02:21:07 AMthe SJWs would cry though especially with the refugees scattered everywhere so it's not like that's actually feasible unless Russia (idgaf just someone powerful enough to smack them into obedience) or some shit gets the balls to do itthey're a threat to the world, they can regain independence when they stop being barbariansWatch yourself son, that's exactly how I feel about blacks in America.
The Religion of Peace beheads a Priest in France
