The no fly list is a huge piece of shit and borderline unconstitutional

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · June 16, 2016, 11:31:10 AM

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Alternative Facts · June 16, 2016, 11:37:37 AM

Does it need reform? Yes

Is it borderline unconstitutional? No.

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · June 16, 2016, 11:39:14 AM

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Alternative Facts · June 16, 2016, 11:42:01 AM

Quote from: REMOVE on June 16, 2016, 11:39:14 AM

Freedom of movement

I wasn't aware "freedom of movement" was a constitutionally protected right.

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and, if the Democrats get their way, constitutionally protected rights being restricted without due process sounds unconstitutional to me.

Talking about your freedom of movement, or gun purchases?

Turkey · June 16, 2016, 11:43:39 AM

Quote from: Icy on June 16, 2016, 11:37:37 AM

Is it borderline unconstitutional? No.

It's been ruled unconstitutional in court before. There's no due process or accountability; the government can just restrict anyone's ability to fly (a private service that is tantamount to unjustified discrimination). Obviously it's something that should exist, but it's a terrible system currently.

Alternative Facts · June 16, 2016, 11:48:06 AM

Quote from: yekruTluftruH on June 16, 2016, 11:43:39 AM

Quote from: Icy on June 16, 2016, 11:37:37 AM

Is it borderline unconstitutional? No.

It's been ruled unconstitutional in court before. There's no due process or accountability; the government can just restrict anyone's ability to fly (a private service that is tantamount to unjustified discrimination). Obviously it's something that should exist, but it's a terrible system currently.

Which is why it should be reformed - a panel consisting of members from Congress, DHS, and the Justice Department (Including judges) should be able to review additions and removals from the list, including hearing appeals.