Plus, I bet Meta's reactions will get stupider as this thing goes on.
Yeah, and just right there bow to Germany's wishes and accept whatever measures it wants to take for its own benefit. That's a great idea.Quote from: Mr Psychologist on March 12, 2015, 04:43:01 PMTalk about biting the hand that feeds you, I fully expect a nice resounding 'Fuck you' from the krauts <_<
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you, I fully expect a nice resounding 'Fuck you' from the krauts <_<
It's not just about the money; those artifacts were stolen during the nazi occupation of Greece, and do very well belong to the Greek people, not the German.QuoteThe demands, which also included the return of 8,500 archaeological treasures and artefacts in Germany, were met with incredulity in Berlin.
The demands, which also included the return of 8,500 archaeological treasures and artefacts in Germany, were met with incredulity in Berlin.
If anyone's bowing to wishes and demands here, it's probably Germany if anything. Stay biased though.
I don't feel enough energy nor I have time to spend time and looking into solid evidence to back up the decisions that are currently being made, nor I think it's viable since I don't know much about economics to begin with.
Funny how all of a sudden they need reparations and the artifacts now when their economy is in the toilet. While artifacts do belong to Greece and should be returned, Germany is already giving Greece a shit ton of money. This a retarded move by Greece, and you have no right to come waltzing in here to insult Meta because you're Greek.
I just decided to side with the Greek position, because I do see that the new government has a fair chance of turning the country to the better for inside of Greece. I don't feel enough energy nor I have time to spend time and looking into solid evidence to back up the decisions that are currently being made, nor I think it's viable since I don't know much about economics to begin with.
/threadgtfo
I'm sorry but, is this supposed to be a viable argument?"I'm choosing this stance because I can't be arsed doing research and backing my argument up with empirical evidence" is basically what you just said minus the fluff.
And if there's anybody to blame for Greece doing THIS badly, it's your government. Greece has gotten enough bailouts. Time to get your shit together.
Say whatever you want, but from my position, your view excludes the whole Greek side or interests.
It's not an argument. I am merely stating my views and why they are this way. They are not based on research besides my own experiences and conclusions, and they do not have any empirical evidence (that I am aware of due to lack of research)Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 13, 2015, 03:02:52 PMI'm sorry but, is this supposed to be a viable argument?"I'm choosing this stance because I can't be arsed doing research and backing my argument up with empirical evidence" is basically what you just said minus the fluff.
How is it exaggerated? Greece is basically trying to get more money from Germany through extortion. What you're doing isn't discussing, you came in here and said he's being stupid/is stupid. I've gotten warnings for acting like that in Serious, so I don't see why you should be able to act like that.
At least, that's how it feels like in Greece.
When you think the problem has been austerity and corruption, and then you turn around to find a party willing to increase spending and stand up to the fat cats over in the EU, of course you're going to feel like they're doing a good job. That doesn't make you correct, however.
By trying to extort billions out of Germany?I mean this is what were saying here, it's madness. Germany has given Greece a shit ton of money already.
See people, this is why you don't have monetary unions. It doesn't lead to anything good.
Quote from: Arm The Mob on March 12, 2015, 09:06:30 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on March 12, 2015, 06:33:47 PMAlso I love how greece is giving germany shit for being nazis 70 years ago...At least the Greeks have enough class not to throw them all in prison like the Germans would.You're dead wrong. The Greeks threw the entire Golden Dawn leadership in prison over a year ago.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on March 12, 2015, 06:33:47 PMAlso I love how greece is giving germany shit for being nazis 70 years ago...At least the Greeks have enough class not to throw them all in prison like the Germans would.
Also I love how greece is giving germany shit for being nazis 70 years ago...
Not the entire Golden Dawn leadership was thrown in prison. Plus Golden Dawn's presence is still here, and quite active. The media just avoid reporting anything about it, but that's mostly because things have been worryingly quiet since the elections.Quote from: GethKhilafah on March 12, 2015, 09:15:36 PMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 12, 2015, 09:06:30 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on March 12, 2015, 06:33:47 PMAlso I love how greece is giving germany shit for being nazis 70 years ago...At least the Greeks have enough class not to throw them all in prison like the Germans would.You're dead wrong. The Greeks threw the entire Golden Dawn leadership in prison over a year ago.
Yeah, you probably know about Golden Dawn's presence far more than I do, on account of the fact that I'm living in the US for the time being. How much Golden Dawn is there where you live? When I went to Greece last time, they were giving food handouts to Greek citizens in Athens. Too bad I left my Greek passport at home. Lol.(Neo-Nazi food is still food by the way!!!)
Where I live the Golden Dawn activity is lower. (Some gatherings, at best) Their main operations are in Athens. They usually hand out food and other basic supplies to people, and do similar things there. (As you are aware) Due to the major poverty, and most of the problems being in Athens. They also have a major support from many members of the police, or at least the rumor goes, officially it's all denied, but there's a recent history of questionable deeds by the police against foreigners or non-native Greeks who live in Greece.Quote from: GethKhilafah on March 13, 2015, 06:02:10 PMYeah, you probably know about Golden Dawn's presence far more than I do, on account of the fact that I'm living in the US for the time being. How much Golden Dawn is there where you live? When I went to Greece last time, they were giving food handouts to Greek citizens in Athens. Too bad I left my Greek passport at home. Lol.(Neo-Nazi food is still food by the way!!!)
The Greek government has officially gone absolutely fucking insane
