The British Monarchy

 
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Any Bongs here consider themselves republicans? And what perspectives to foreigners have of our royal family?

I'm a fairly staunch supporter of the monarchy, for both economic and diplomatic reasons. One of the problems I have with anti-Monarchists is that they never seem to have any good reasons for supporting a republic.


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It isn't even technically a real monarchy either. More like a constitutional monarchy, and even then, it's absolutely great as the tourist cash cow that it is.

but muh political ticking time bomb
Last Edit: June 02, 2015, 12:27:49 PM by Madman Mordo


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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
But does the family operate at a net gain for the bongistani economy so as not to unjustly drain the money of the tax paying constituents of the nation?

obligatory shall not be infringed; taxation is theft.


 
 
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Your second paragraph sums it up well. There's a lot of reasons to keep the Queen, and nearly none against it.


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Eh I'm indifferent to them.


 
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Find the principle of it dumb, but understand it brings in revenue. Still to say that this group of people is special, different from everyone else, and deserves tax payer money / nice shit, just because it brings in money to do so, doesn't seem like very solid reasoning. Its a pretty clear statement that everyone is not equal. Then again you have stuff like the house of lords, so I guess its just a different system. 

Wouldn't want to live under it though.
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If you ever meet a british republican, you break out the tar and feathers then hang them from tower bridge <_<

For realsies though, they are a net gain to the country and I haven't exactly seen the royals running around shooting at the poor and abolishing the human rights act or pissing on the magna carta.

Getting rid of them would make the country poorer, both financially and culturally.


 
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I'm an American, so I can't really appreciate the economic value in having them around. It's important for me to keep that in mind.

However, I have trouble seeing it as anything more than a "muh tradition" holdover from what is, to me, the most disgusting political system that has ever existed. I'm staunchly anti-monarchist. British monarchy can be somewhat excused because they lack real power, but the way I see it, their very presence is still an insult to democracy and the British people.

I can't say I'd be sad to see them go.
*looks at our government where almost none of the elected officials "represent" us*

Yeah, no. If anything the American government is more insulting.


 
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The idea that someone is better than the rest because of their blood is absolutely backwards but in the case of our monarchy and the fact that they have no real power I'm indifferent to them. Although one thing I don't understand is why they need the taxpayer to fund them, surely they can provide for themselves.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Although one thing I don't understand is why they need the taxpayer to fund them, surely they can provide for themselves.
They could, but the salary the taxpayers pay them is smaller than the revenue from royal lands that the government gets in return.


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If you ever meet a british republican, you break out the tar and feathers then hang them from tower bridge <_<

For realsies though, they are a net gain to the country and I haven't exactly seen the royals running around shooting at the poor and abolishing the human rights act or pissing on the magna carta.

Getting rid of them would make the country poorer, both financially and culturally.
They're great for tourists but the lazy fuckers shouldn't be paid any more than the wankers who cheat on benefits.


 
 
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If you ever meet a british republican, you break out the tar and feathers then hang them from tower bridge <_<

For realsies though, they are a net gain to the country and I haven't exactly seen the royals running around shooting at the poor and abolishing the human rights act or pissing on the magna carta.

Getting rid of them would make the country poorer, both financially and culturally.
They're great for tourists but the lazy fuckers shouldn't be paid any more than the wankers who cheat on benefits.
Well the way it works is the crown estate (Their private lands/holdings/assests) belongs to them even if they aren't the monarchy. They donate the entire profit of the estate to the treasury in return for the government paying crown expenses at a net gain of Β£200m ish to the country >.>


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
I see no point in them.

That said, seeing as they are pointless I see no reason to get rid of them.

Although I do hate how the media clamour over them when they do anything that I dunno, normal people do like getting married, having children and dying. That isn't exactly their fault, but the fact the public show high esteem for these now powerless people so the media still shovel royalty shite on the news is baffling to me.
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Although one thing I don't understand is why they need the taxpayer to fund them, surely they can provide for themselves.
They could, but the salary the taxpayers pay them is smaller than the revenue from royal lands that the government gets in return.

That's kind of cheating though, isn't it? Any royal property is basically the government's property.


 
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That's kind of cheating though, isn't it?
I don't see how.

The royal family don't have to surrender their lands' revenues, they just always have done since George III.


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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
No government is good or fair, and if you think one is you're fucking delusional.
The key is to stop caring.


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I don't see why rich folks would be a tourist draw but I'm murican so. . .


 
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]They may not represent you, but they represent voters, whether you agree with them or not. Just because you fancy yourself more progressive or more reasonable or more rational or what the fuck ever doesn't mean representative democracy isn't doing what it is intended to do- represent the interests of the majority.

Blame democracy for the failings of the American government. I never said democracy was good. No government is good or fair, and if you think one is you're fucking delusional.

It's much fucking better than monarchy, though.
You say that, but congress has an approval rating of like, 10%, and they sit there doing nothing.

Way to represent us.

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They're good for "morale" and public image. The amount of money they're taking up doesn't even come close to the monarchy's diplomatic advantages.


 
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The amount of money they're taking up
They contribute more to the public coffer than they take out.


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They're good for "morale" and public image. The amount of money they're taking up doesn't even come close to the monarchy's diplomatic advantages.
The royal family brings in a huge amount of tourism for the UK, way more than they're given

Even here in NZ as a commonwealth country we're pretty into them


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They're good for "morale" and public image. The amount of money they're taking up doesn't even come close to the monarchy's diplomatic advantages.
The royal family brings in a huge amount of tourism for the UK, way more than they're given

Even here in NZ as a commonwealth country we're pretty into them
Yeah, exactly. Their image and history is what compels a lot of people to visit England in the first place


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They have no real power and they bring in money, so I'm pretty indifferent.
Plus we get a holiday every time one of them sneezes.


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We always say to fight fire, you must use fire. This is wrong. Fighting fire with fire will leave scars and a new flame will rise. We must instead use water. It is the opposite of fire, it extinguishes the fire, it cools, it refreshes, it heals. We are made up of 70% water, we are not made up of 70% fire. Please practice what we truly are
And what perspectives to foreigners have of our royal family?


I'm sick of hearing about it. I don't care. They don't have an effect on me and it should have an effect on my nation.


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