Still down/exhausted about the election?

Alternative Facts · November 10, 2016, 02:29:56 PM

Quote from: Ｖａｒｇ on November 10, 2016, 02:24:03 PM

Quote from: Comet on November 10, 2016, 02:18:28 PM
This has been a wild few days. Most of my friends have been to safe spaces in thier colleges because they were so distraught. They were also upset that there were no feel good 'everything is gonna be ok' emails from staff.
Yeah, my campus LGBT center was extra packed yesterday. Don't know about today, I won't be on campus.

Our campus has been holding protests.

Luciana · November 10, 2016, 02:32:02 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/calexit-donald-trump/index.html

Well this is ironic. I expected this from Texas or some other deeply conservative state first.

Comet · November 10, 2016, 02:55:55 PM

Quote from: Icy on November 10, 2016, 02:29:56 PM

Quote from: Ｖａｒｇ on November 10, 2016, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: Comet on November 10, 2016, 02:18:28 PM
This has been a wild few days. Most of my friends have been to safe spaces in thier colleges because they were so distraught. They were also upset that there were no feel good 'everything is gonna be ok' emails from staff.
Yeah, my campus LGBT center was extra packed yesterday. Don't know about today, I won't be on campus.

Our campus has been holding protests.

Idk man, i guess i just dont get why these people are content to huddle in thier crying corners instead of busting down dnc doors to demand answers.

Alternative Facts · November 10, 2016, 02:57:50 PM

Quote from: Comet on November 10, 2016, 02:55:55 PM

Quote from: Icy on November 10, 2016, 02:29:56 PM
Quote from: Ｖａｒｇ on November 10, 2016, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: Comet on November 10, 2016, 02:18:28 PM
This has been a wild few days. Most of my friends have been to safe spaces in thier colleges because they were so distraught. They were also upset that there were no feel good 'everything is gonna be ok' emails from staff.
Yeah, my campus LGBT center was extra packed yesterday. Don't know about today, I won't be on campus.

Our campus has been holding protests.
Idk man, i guess i just dont get why these people are content to huddle in thier crying corners instead of busting down dnc doors to demand answers.

Because there will be a time for that, in the coming months. Rebuilding and reshaping the Democratic party is going to be a long process.

For now, students and millenials are just trying to come together for one another. And if that is just a big issue for you (Or anyone), then you have to sort out priorities.

Comet · November 10, 2016, 03:06:58 PM

Quote from: Icy on November 10, 2016, 02:57:50 PM

Quote from: Comet on November 10, 2016, 02:55:55 PM
Quote from: Icy on November 10, 2016, 02:29:56 PM
Quote from: Ｖａｒｇ on November 10, 2016, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: Comet on November 10, 2016, 02:18:28 PM
This has been a wild few days. Most of my friends have been to safe spaces in thier colleges because they were so distraught. They were also upset that there were no feel good 'everything is gonna be ok' emails from staff.
Yeah, my campus LGBT center was extra packed yesterday. Don't know about today, I won't be on campus.

Our campus has been holding protests.
Idk man, i guess i just dont get why these people are content to huddle in thier crying corners instead of busting down dnc doors to demand answers.

Because there will be a time for that, in the coming months. Rebuilding and reshaping the Democratic party is going to be a long process.

For now, students and millenials are just trying to come together for one another. And if that is just a big issue for you (Or anyone), then you have to sort out priorities.

no issue, i just dont get how that takes priority. I would think to strike while the iron is hot and while people still care about thier candidates is the best move but
¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯
You gotta do whats best for you, but i dont see the long term payoff.

Alternative Facts · November 10, 2016, 03:08:48 PM

Quote from: Comet on November 10, 2016, 03:06:58 PM

Quote from: Icy on November 10, 2016, 02:57:50 PM
Quote from: Comet on November 10, 2016, 02:55:55 PM
Quote from: Icy on November 10, 2016, 02:29:56 PM
Quote from: Ｖａｒｇ on November 10, 2016, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: Comet on November 10, 2016, 02:18:28 PM
This has been a wild few days. Most of my friends have been to safe spaces in thier colleges because they were so distraught. They were also upset that there were no feel good 'everything is gonna be ok' emails from staff.
Yeah, my campus LGBT center was extra packed yesterday. Don't know about today, I won't be on campus.

Our campus has been holding protests.
Idk man, i guess i just dont get why these people are content to huddle in thier crying corners instead of busting down dnc doors to demand answers.

Because there will be a time for that, in the coming months. Rebuilding and reshaping the Democratic party is going to be a long process.

For now, students and millenials are just trying to come together for one another. And if that is just a big issue for you (Or anyone), then you have to sort out priorities.
no issue, i just dont get how that takes priority. I would think to strike while the iron is hot and while people still care about thier candidates is the best move but
¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯
You gotta do whats best for you, but i dont see the long term payoff.

Because there isn't much that can be done, at least right now. At least not until the start of 2017 when the DNC and Congress begin picking their new leaders. People can write their representatives and senators if they wish, but until they reconvene, it won't do much.

Until then, the next month or so will just be a period of frustration and anger.

PSU · November 10, 2016, 03:12:52 PM

Quote from: Icy on November 10, 2016, 02:57:50 PM

For now, students and millenials are just trying to come together for one another. And if that is just a big issue for you (Or anyone), then you have to sort out priorities.

lol its a very big issue for me. Its fucking embarrassing that a bunch of 20 somethings are literally crying over an election. Wahhhhh my safe space.

70 years ago 15 year olds were shipped overseas to kill germans. Now 25 year olds can't even get through the day without a safe space.

Alternative Facts · November 10, 2016, 03:15:11 PM

Quote from: PSU on November 10, 2016, 03:12:52 PM

Quote from: Icy on November 10, 2016, 02:57:50 PM

For now, students and millenials are just trying to come together for one another. And if that is just a big issue for you (Or anyone), then you have to sort out priorities.

lol its a very big issue for me. Its fucking embarrassing that a bunch of 20 somethings are literally crying over an election. Wahhhhh my safe space.

And here I thought your civility from the past two days would stand.

I could retort that it's embarrassing that a bunch of fifty somethings spent the past eight years crying over a fictional issue that Obama was born in Kenya and is a Muslim, but I have a bit more class than that. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and reacting as such.

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70 years ago 15 year olds were shipped overseas to kill germans.

I'm glad you know your history.

PSU · November 10, 2016, 03:19:00 PM

Quote from: Icy on November 10, 2016, 03:15:11 PM

Quote from: PSU on November 10, 2016, 03:12:52 PM
Quote from: Icy on November 10, 2016, 02:57:50 PM

For now, students and millenials are just trying to come together for one another. And if that is just a big issue for you (Or anyone), then you have to sort out priorities.

lol its a very big issue for me. Its fucking embarrassing that a bunch of 20 somethings are literally crying over an election. Wahhhhh my safe space.

And here I thought your civility from the past two days would stand.

I could retort that it's embarrassing that a bunch of fifty somethings spent the past eight years crying over a fictional issue that Obama was born in Kenya and is a Muslim, but I have a bit more class than that. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and reacting as such.

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70 years ago 15 year olds were shipped overseas to kill germans.

I'm glad you know your history.

50 year olds were crying? Maybe complaining, not crying.

What these kids are doing is a fucking embarrassment to mankind.

PSU · November 10, 2016, 03:19:53 PM

Oh I can't do my schoolwork.
Oh I can't go to my job.
Oh I need a safe space cause I'm triggered by the news.
Oh I have PTSD.

Alternative Facts · November 10, 2016, 03:24:01 PM

Quote from: PSU on November 10, 2016, 03:19:53 PM

Oh I can't do my schoolwork.
Oh I can't go to my job.
Oh I need a safe space cause I'm triggered by the news.
Oh I have PTSD.

Yes, the next generation's fear of policies that would inherently harm many of the values they stand for is something that would cause fear and upset.

PSU · November 10, 2016, 03:24:03 PM

Honestly, I feel bad for them. If they can't deal with this shit while still in school, theres NO CHANCE they'll ever be successful in the real world.

PSU · November 10, 2016, 03:25:19 PM

Quote from: Icy on November 10, 2016, 03:24:01 PM

Quote from: PSU on November 10, 2016, 03:19:53 PM
Oh I can't do my schoolwork.
Oh I can't go to my job.
Oh I need a safe space cause I'm triggered by the news.
Oh I have PTSD.

Yes, the next generation's fear of policies that would inherently harm many of the values they stand for is something that would cause fear and upset.

Get over it. The guy isn't even fucking president yet.

Protesting and crying in a corner isn't going to do anything. Maybe they should have thought about this before a bunch of them didn't even bother to vote.

Alternative Facts · November 10, 2016, 03:25:22 PM

Quote from: PSU on November 10, 2016, 03:24:03 PM

Honestly, I feel bad for them. If they can't deal with this shit while still in school, theres NO CHANCE they'll ever be successful in the real world.

Well guess what - these students that you are deriding as immature, spoiled, whatever word you wish to use, they will be taking control of governments, both state and federally, in 10-20 years. You may not like it, but it is going to happen.

PSU · November 10, 2016, 03:26:21 PM

Quote from: Icy on November 10, 2016, 03:25:22 PM

Quote from: PSU on November 10, 2016, 03:24:03 PM
Honestly, I feel bad for them. If they can't deal with this shit while still in school, theres NO CHANCE they'll ever be successful in the real world.

Well guess what - these students that you are deriding as immature, spoiled, whatever word you wish to use, they will be taking control of governments, both state and federally, in 10-20 years. You may not like it, but it is going to happen.

I can guarantee you that none of the kids crying in a safe space will be involved in government in anyway.

Alternative Facts · November 10, 2016, 03:27:42 PM

Quote from: PSU on November 10, 2016, 03:26:21 PM

Quote from: Icy on November 10, 2016, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: PSU on November 10, 2016, 03:24:03 PM
Honestly, I feel bad for them. If they can't deal with this shit while still in school, theres NO CHANCE they'll ever be successful in the real world.

Well guess what - these students that you are deriding as immature, spoiled, whatever word you wish to use, they will be taking control of governments, both state and federally, in 10-20 years. You may not like it, but it is going to happen.

I can guarantee you that none of the kids crying in a safe space will be involved in government in anyway.

I'd argue against your guarantees, but I was proven wrong in the past.

But I can assure you that I will be, so your "None of the kids" is already wrong.

CIS · November 10, 2016, 04:01:24 PM

Quote from: Icy on November 10, 2016, 03:25:22 PM

Quote from: PSU on November 10, 2016, 03:24:03 PM
Honestly, I feel bad for them. If they can't deal with this shit while still in school, theres NO CHANCE they'll ever be successful in the real world.

Well guess what - these students that you are deriding as immature, spoiled, whatever word you wish to use, they will be taking control of governments, both state and federally, in 10-20 years. You may not like it, but it is going to happen.

I'm guessing they'll be very different people in 10-20 years. From what I understand, a lot of the Baby Boomers that were involved with the counterculture of the 1960s later became conservatives and Republicans, so I imagine the pattern will repeat itself in some form.

PSU · November 10, 2016, 04:03:58 PM

Quote from: CIS on November 10, 2016, 04:01:24 PM

Quote from: Icy on November 10, 2016, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: PSU on November 10, 2016, 03:24:03 PM
Honestly, I feel bad for them. If they can't deal with this shit while still in school, theres NO CHANCE they'll ever be successful in the real world.

Well guess what - these students that you are deriding as immature, spoiled, whatever word you wish to use, they will be taking control of governments, both state and federally, in 10-20 years. You may not like it, but it is going to happen.

I'm guessing they'll be very different people in 10-20 years. From what I understand, a lot of the Baby Boomers that were involved with the counterculture of the 1960s later became conservatives and Republicans, so I imagine the pattern will repeat itself in some form.

It will. Theres a reason older people lean more right. They are blinded by their college professors and actually develop a work ethic.

Luciana · November 10, 2016, 04:07:36 PM

Quote from: Icy on November 10, 2016, 03:25:22 PM

Quote from: PSU on November 10, 2016, 03:24:03 PM
Honestly, I feel bad for them. If they can't deal with this shit while still in school, theres NO CHANCE they'll ever be successful in the real world.

Well guess what - these students that you are deriding as immature, spoiled, whatever word you wish to use, they will be taking control of governments, both state and federally, in 10-20 years. You may not like it, but it is going to happen.

That actually worries ME.

Luciana · November 10, 2016, 04:08:32 PM

Quote from: CIS on November 10, 2016, 04:01:24 PM

Quote from: Icy on November 10, 2016, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: PSU on November 10, 2016, 03:24:03 PM
Honestly, I feel bad for them. If they can't deal with this shit while still in school, theres NO CHANCE they'll ever be successful in the real world.

Well guess what - these students that you are deriding as immature, spoiled, whatever word you wish to use, they will be taking control of governments, both state and federally, in 10-20 years. You may not like it, but it is going to happen.

I'm guessing they'll be very different people in 10-20 years. From what I understand, a lot of the Baby Boomers that were involved with the counterculture of the 1960s later became conservatives and Republicans, so I imagine the pattern will repeat itself in some form.

It's been shown that the older you get, the more conservative you get. Not everyone, but you know what I mean.

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Luciana · November 10, 2016, 04:58:33 PM

Quote from: Iberian Husky on November 10, 2016, 04:36:40 PM

Quote from: Luciana on November 10, 2016, 02:32:02 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/calexit-donald-trump/index.html

Well this is ironic. I expected this from Texas or some other deeply conservative state first.
I'd like to see them try. Their stance on 2A is going to come and bite them in the ass with a vengeance.

Nah they won't. No state would. People are just upset and venting.

Verbatim · November 10, 2016, 05:47:46 PM

No one's going to like this post, but after it's posted, I'll be actively avoiding all political discussion here for a length of time--for pretty obvious reasons. So I'm just going to get everything I want to say out now, because no one here hates Trump more than me.

I appreciate the attempt, but a 9 minute Colbert video is not going to change how I feel about this at all. I will NEVER accept Trump as my president, ever. His election has evoked in me emotions ranging from reclusive or violent behavior to even thoughts of suicide--the likes of which I haven't felt in over five years. There's not anything you or anyone else can say to make things better for me. Even if Trump were impeached or assassinated, as much as I want him to be, that wouldn't accomplish anything either. We would just get Mike Pence, who is 10x worse than the worst president we've ever had. Our balls are in a vice.

But you know what? I don't even want things to get better. I don't even want Trump to end up being a good president. Why would I? I want to continue hating him. And I want to continue hating his supporters. Because if he ends up doing "good," okay... Then what? Does that mean I'd have to start liking Trump? Fuck that. I want him to be the most horrible president ever. I want everyone in the world to be just as miserable and just as upset as I am. I don't want things to get better, because we don't deserve it. If America elects someone like Trump, we deserve nothing short of eight years of hell, with the Trump supporters getting the absolute worst of it. All I want is to watch them collectively eat their own shit and then die.

So no, there's literally nothing anyone can do to make me feel better. Except give the presidency to someone else. Someone who's not a conservative or a Republican--which obviously can't happen, EVEN IF Trump dies or resigns. We're fucking trapped, and it's all America's fault. It's all uneducated white college kids' fault. It's all white-washed minorities' fault. And fuck unification--I don't want to be unified with fucking anybody who's ever had a positive thought about Donald Trump. Whatsoever. They can all go straight to hell.

Every day since the election, I've been so drained. I don't have the energy to do anything. I just want to go home, fall asleep, and never wake up again. I don't necessarily want to die or kill myself--I just want to sleep forever so I can be comfortably alone and at peace. And I think everyone else should feel the exact same way. Everyone should be depressed as fuck. No one should accept this. And absolutely nobody should just "move on." You're not moving on; you're being herded. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but it's the simple truth. It's the only outlook that makes any rational sense to me.

Here's a comforting thought: When Trump is through, I'll almost be 30 years old. 30 goddamn years old. And that's if I make it there.

By all means, call me a crybaby. Say I'm just overreacting. Say I'm just throwing a tantrum. It is what it is, and I'll wear my crybaby status with pride. But the bottom line is, in my opinion, if you are NOT currently prepared to throw an 8 year tantrum over this, I don't consider you a rational person. I don't consider you a principled person. You're complacent. You're acequiescent. You're submissive. You have no conviction. That's not me. That's never me.

"Never" is a word I'm going to be using a LOT over the next decade.

Luciana · November 10, 2016, 05:50:12 PM

Tl;dr - I want the country to burn to validate my hate

good job

not only will you be 30, you'll be a 30 year old irrational man child

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · November 10, 2016, 05:53:24 PM

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Verbatim · November 10, 2016, 05:53:40 PM

Quote from: Luciana on November 10, 2016, 05:50:12 PM

Tl;dr - I want the country to burn to validate my hate

good job

not only will you be 30, you'll be a 30 year old irrational man child

But I'll be right. I already said I'd wear my "manchild" label with pride. I don't give a fuck. Like I'm gonna keep quiet about how I feel about all this just because it upsets you. Please.

I don't want to burn the country to validate anything--I want the country to burn because it deserves it, period.

The Lord Ruler · November 10, 2016, 06:18:45 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 10, 2016, 05:53:40 PM

Quote from: Luciana on November 10, 2016, 05:50:12 PM
Tl;dr - I want the country to burn to validate my hate

good job

not only will you be 30, you'll be a 30 year old irrational man child
But I'll be right.

I don't want to burn the country to validate anything--I want the country to burn because it deserves it, period.

God you're so hypocritical

Verbatim · November 10, 2016, 06:23:47 PM

Quote from: The Lord Ruler on November 10, 2016, 06:18:45 PM

God you're so hypocritical

Probably, but I don't think I made any hypocritical statements whatsoever.

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Gatortag · November 10, 2016, 06:24:34 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 10, 2016, 05:53:40 PM

Quote from: Luciana on November 10, 2016, 05:50:12 PM
Tl;dr - I want the country to burn to validate my hate

good job

not only will you be 30, you'll be a 30 year old irrational man child
But I'll be right.

I don't want to burn the country to validate anything--I want the country to burn because it deserves it, period.

Are you implying Hillary would have even been better? I can't say if Trump will be better. But no matter who won, I wouldn't have really liked it. They're both shit. I can't say I feel all that sorry for illegals if they're deported. Maybe, apply next time? Teaming up with Russia and bombing the shit out of ISIS like he says would be cool too. I can agree with him on that.