Quote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 13, 2015, 11:01:04 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:00:20 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 13, 2015, 10:58:11 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 03:52:15 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 12, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.No it fucking isn't. People have died. You do realize that many people here associate the Pledge/Anthem with out military, correct? Many see it as saluting them, as well as the country - including those that died.But this discussion has already been done, so unless there's something new to add other than "Fucking PC Liberal", I'll take my leave.makes you look like a Muslim apologist?So be it.Now I've seen it all. A gay dude who's a Muslim apologist.
Quote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:00:20 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 13, 2015, 10:58:11 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 03:52:15 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 12, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.No it fucking isn't. People have died. You do realize that many people here associate the Pledge/Anthem with out military, correct? Many see it as saluting them, as well as the country - including those that died.But this discussion has already been done, so unless there's something new to add other than "Fucking PC Liberal", I'll take my leave.makes you look like a Muslim apologist?So be it.
Quote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 13, 2015, 10:58:11 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 03:52:15 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 12, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.No it fucking isn't. People have died. You do realize that many people here associate the Pledge/Anthem with out military, correct? Many see it as saluting them, as well as the country - including those that died.But this discussion has already been done, so unless there's something new to add other than "Fucking PC Liberal", I'll take my leave.makes you look like a Muslim apologist?
Quote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 03:52:15 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 12, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.No it fucking isn't. People have died. You do realize that many people here associate the Pledge/Anthem with out military, correct? Many see it as saluting them, as well as the country - including those that died.But this discussion has already been done, so unless there's something new to add other than "Fucking PC Liberal", I'll take my leave.
Quote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 12, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.No it fucking isn't. People have died.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity.
As disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.
Quote from: Naoto on January 13, 2015, 11:06:31 AMQuote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 11:03:59 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 10:56:31 AMQuote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 08:34:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 03:52:15 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 12, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.No it fucking isn't. People have died. I am so sick of you fucking PC liberals.Let's not forget the old Bellamy salute here in the states:The pledge is idolatry in the name of "patriotism"The fuck does this have to do with anything?I was proving Icy's point.Icy has no point as the first page has already shown. I don't know how people are still bringing up the pledge as if it has anything to do with this thread.I don't see how it isn't relevant. "Here's something to prove you're loyal, and we're going on a witch hunt against everyone who doesn't comply."
Quote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 11:03:59 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 10:56:31 AMQuote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 08:34:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 03:52:15 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 12, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.No it fucking isn't. People have died. I am so sick of you fucking PC liberals.Let's not forget the old Bellamy salute here in the states:The pledge is idolatry in the name of "patriotism"The fuck does this have to do with anything?I was proving Icy's point.Icy has no point as the first page has already shown. I don't know how people are still bringing up the pledge as if it has anything to do with this thread.
Quote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 10:56:31 AMQuote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 08:34:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 03:52:15 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 12, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.No it fucking isn't. People have died. I am so sick of you fucking PC liberals.Let's not forget the old Bellamy salute here in the states:The pledge is idolatry in the name of "patriotism"The fuck does this have to do with anything?I was proving Icy's point.
Quote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 08:34:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 03:52:15 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 12, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.No it fucking isn't. People have died. I am so sick of you fucking PC liberals.Let's not forget the old Bellamy salute here in the states:The pledge is idolatry in the name of "patriotism"The fuck does this have to do with anything?
Quote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 03:52:15 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 12, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.No it fucking isn't. People have died. I am so sick of you fucking PC liberals.Let's not forget the old Bellamy salute here in the states:The pledge is idolatry in the name of "patriotism"
Quote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 12, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.No it fucking isn't. People have died. I am so sick of you fucking PC liberals.
Quote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 11:03:59 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 10:56:31 AMQuote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 08:34:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 03:52:15 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 12, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.No it fucking isn't. People have died. I am so sick of you fucking PC liberals.Let's not forget the old Bellamy salute here in the states:The pledge is idolatry in the name of "patriotism"The fuck does this have to do with anything?I was proving Icy's point.He has no point. Pledging loyalty =/= Minute of silence
Quote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:08:43 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 13, 2015, 11:01:04 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:00:20 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 13, 2015, 10:58:11 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 03:52:15 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 12, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.No it fucking isn't. People have died. You do realize that many people here associate the Pledge/Anthem with out military, correct? Many see it as saluting them, as well as the country - including those that died.But this discussion has already been done, so unless there's something new to add other than "Fucking PC Liberal", I'll take my leave.makes you look like a Muslim apologist?So be it.Now I've seen it all. A gay dude who's a Muslim apologist.An oxymoron if I ever saw one.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on January 13, 2015, 11:10:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:08:43 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 13, 2015, 11:01:04 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:00:20 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 13, 2015, 10:58:11 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 03:52:15 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 12, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.No it fucking isn't. People have died. You do realize that many people here associate the Pledge/Anthem with out military, correct? Many see it as saluting them, as well as the country - including those that died.But this discussion has already been done, so unless there's something new to add other than "Fucking PC Liberal", I'll take my leave.makes you look like a Muslim apologist?So be it.Now I've seen it all. A gay dude who's a Muslim apologist.An oxymoron if I ever saw one.Why is that?
Mildly criticizing people for supporting terrorists and murderes is now a witch hunt and trampling on their rights.ffs really?
It has absolutely nothing to do with loyalty. It's about respecting people who were murdered by fascists for drawing a fucking cartoon.
Quote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 13, 2015, 11:11:22 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 13, 2015, 11:10:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:08:43 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 13, 2015, 11:01:04 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:00:20 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 13, 2015, 10:58:11 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 03:52:15 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 12, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.No it fucking isn't. People have died. You do realize that many people here associate the Pledge/Anthem with out military, correct? Many see it as saluting them, as well as the country - including those that died.But this discussion has already been done, so unless there's something new to add other than "Fucking PC Liberal", I'll take my leave.makes you look like a Muslim apologist?So be it.Now I've seen it all. A gay dude who's a Muslim apologist.An oxymoron if I ever saw one.Why is that?You must be aware that Islam adopts extremely homophobic and downright fascistic sentiments towards homosexuals, right? It isn't just some extremist Jihadi fringe group that espouses these ideas. One could argue the majority of Muslims holds these values, as Meta's statistics seem to attest to it.
Quote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 13, 2015, 11:11:22 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 13, 2015, 11:10:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:08:43 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 13, 2015, 11:01:04 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:00:20 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 13, 2015, 10:58:11 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 03:52:15 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 12, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.No it fucking isn't. People have died. You do realize that many people here associate the Pledge/Anthem with out military, correct? Many see it as saluting them, as well as the country - including those that died.But this discussion has already been done, so unless there's something new to add other than "Fucking PC Liberal", I'll take my leave.makes you look like a Muslim apologist?So be it.Now I've seen it all. A gay dude who's a Muslim apologist.An oxymoron if I ever saw one.Why is that?Because these people you're defending would not hesitate one second in giving you a gruesome death simply for being homosexual. I understand you think criticizing them means you're stooping to their level (you're wrong, because we're criticizing them not gunning them down) but in the interest of self preservation you'd think you wouldn't have this mentality.
Because these people you're defending would not hesitate one second in giving you a gruesome death simply for being homosexual. I understand you think criticizing them means you're stooping to their level (you're wrong, because we're criticizing them not gunning them down) but in the interest of self preservation you'd think you wouldn't have this mentality.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on January 13, 2015, 11:14:00 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 13, 2015, 11:11:22 AMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 13, 2015, 11:10:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:08:43 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 13, 2015, 11:01:04 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:00:20 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 13, 2015, 10:58:11 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 03:52:15 AMQuote from: Ἀπόλλων on January 12, 2015, 05:58:15 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 12, 2015, 05:37:22 PMAs disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.No it fucking isn't. People have died. You do realize that many people here associate the Pledge/Anthem with out military, correct? Many see it as saluting them, as well as the country - including those that died.But this discussion has already been done, so unless there's something new to add other than "Fucking PC Liberal", I'll take my leave.makes you look like a Muslim apologist?So be it.Now I've seen it all. A gay dude who's a Muslim apologist.An oxymoron if I ever saw one.Why is that?You must be aware that Islam adopts extremely homophobic and downright fascistic sentiments towards homosexuals, right? It isn't just some extremist Jihadi fringe group that espouses these ideas. One could argue the majority of Muslims holds these values, as Meta's statistics seem to attest to it.I do. But my sexuality doesn't define my views in who I may or may not be an "apologist" for, nor should it.
Quote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 11:15:23 AMQuote from: Naoto on January 13, 2015, 11:10:51 AMMildly criticizing people for supporting terrorists and murderes is now a witch hunt and trampling on their rights.ffs really?'mild criticism'More like fueling the fires of civil unrest. History tells us that things like this can get out of hand.Quote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:11:11 AMIt has absolutely nothing to do with loyalty. It's about respecting people who were murdered by fascists for drawing a fucking cartoon.The reactions to this event prove that it has a lot to do with loyalty.Please explain how a minute of silence has something to do with loyalty to France and not respecting the dead.
Quote from: Naoto on January 13, 2015, 11:10:51 AMMildly criticizing people for supporting terrorists and murderes is now a witch hunt and trampling on their rights.ffs really?'mild criticism'More like fueling the fires of civil unrest. History tells us that things like this can get out of hand.Quote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:11:11 AMIt has absolutely nothing to do with loyalty. It's about respecting people who were murdered by fascists for drawing a fucking cartoon.The reactions to this event prove that it has a lot to do with loyalty.
Quote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:14:03 AMBecause these people you're defending would not hesitate one second in giving you a gruesome death simply for being homosexual. I understand you think criticizing them means you're stooping to their level (you're wrong, because we're criticizing them not gunning them down) but in the interest of self preservation you'd think you wouldn't have this mentality.You're agreeing with the terrorists with that sort of logic.I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it
Quote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 11:18:22 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:17:03 AMQuote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 11:15:23 AMQuote from: Naoto on January 13, 2015, 11:10:51 AMMildly criticizing people for supporting terrorists and murderes is now a witch hunt and trampling on their rights.ffs really?'mild criticism'More like fueling the fires of civil unrest. History tells us that things like this can get out of hand.Quote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:11:11 AMIt has absolutely nothing to do with loyalty. It's about respecting people who were murdered by fascists for drawing a fucking cartoon.The reactions to this event prove that it has a lot to do with loyalty.Please explain how a minute of silence has something to do with loyalty to France and not respecting the dead.If it wasn't, we wouldn't be having this conversation.Please explain how any of this has a single motherfucking thing to do with loyalty to France, please.
Quote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:17:03 AMQuote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 11:15:23 AMQuote from: Naoto on January 13, 2015, 11:10:51 AMMildly criticizing people for supporting terrorists and murderes is now a witch hunt and trampling on their rights.ffs really?'mild criticism'More like fueling the fires of civil unrest. History tells us that things like this can get out of hand.Quote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:11:11 AMIt has absolutely nothing to do with loyalty. It's about respecting people who were murdered by fascists for drawing a fucking cartoon.The reactions to this event prove that it has a lot to do with loyalty.Please explain how a minute of silence has something to do with loyalty to France and not respecting the dead.If it wasn't, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Quote from: Naoto on January 13, 2015, 11:19:26 AMQuote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 11:17:39 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:14:03 AMBecause these people you're defending would not hesitate one second in giving you a gruesome death simply for being homosexual. I understand you think criticizing them means you're stooping to their level (you're wrong, because we're criticizing them not gunning them down) but in the interest of self preservation you'd think you wouldn't have this mentality.You're agreeing with the terrorists with that sort of logic.I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say itI would point out for the millionth time that no one is arguing against their right to not be silent, but somehow it feels like a waste of time.Tell that to Challenger.
Quote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 11:17:39 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:14:03 AMBecause these people you're defending would not hesitate one second in giving you a gruesome death simply for being homosexual. I understand you think criticizing them means you're stooping to their level (you're wrong, because we're criticizing them not gunning them down) but in the interest of self preservation you'd think you wouldn't have this mentality.You're agreeing with the terrorists with that sort of logic.I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say itI would point out for the millionth time that no one is arguing against their right to not be silent, but somehow it feels like a waste of time.
This really is incredible. We criticize these people for their barbarism - and immediately users who know we value free speech treat us like xenophobic bigots.Nobody says they can't disrespect the dead. We're saying they SHOULD NOT disrespect the dead.
Quote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:23:29 AMThis really is incredible. We criticize these people for their barbarism - and immediately users who know we value free speech treat us like xenophobic bigots.Nobody says they can't disrespect the dead. We're saying they SHOULD NOT disrespect the dead.I'm concerned about the consequences that will come from this sort of rhetoric, this thread being evidence of that. 'If God forbid you take issue with our popular consensus, you're part of the problem' is essentially what's being said here.
Show me a quote where he has said they we're not allowed to be silent. I really think you're misreading the thread.
Quote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 11:28:09 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 13, 2015, 11:23:29 AMThis really is incredible. We criticize these people for their barbarism - and immediately users who know we value free speech treat us like xenophobic bigots.Nobody says they can't disrespect the dead. We're saying they SHOULD NOT disrespect the dead.I'm concerned about the consequences that will come from this sort of rhetoric, this thread being evidence of that. 'If God forbid you take issue with our popular consensus, you're part of the problem' is essentially what's being said here.Supporting terrorists and murderers
Still not really an excuse to stand for a minutes silence. A minute silence for remembering those that died in a war? Sure. But for 17 that died because of a terrorist attack? Eh not so much. People die everyday.
Quote from: Kupo on January 13, 2015, 11:34:48 AMBut I'm not. Why would you accuse me of that? Unless, of course, you're on a witch hunt, which would be proving my point.Where did I accuse you of anything?!?
But I'm not. Why would you accuse me of that? Unless, of course, you're on a witch hunt, which would be proving my point.
I don't see how it isn't relevant. "Here's something to prove you're loyal, and we're going on a witch hunt against everyone who doesn't comply."
Some Muslim students refused to honour minute of silence in France
