Just look at Iraq now.
Take a look at all these post Arab Spring countries. They're all extra shitty now.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on November 03, 2014, 09:39:43 AMFreedom or not, Iraq was a good war. One of the best, in fact. The biggest mistake was leaving Hussein in power in the 90s.HAHAHAHAHAA!!!! It was as big of a joke as Vietnam, and just as criminal. A complete waste.
Freedom or not, Iraq was a good war. One of the best, in fact. The biggest mistake was leaving Hussein in power in the 90s.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on November 03, 2014, 02:05:36 PMI was talking about the '03 Iraq War.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on November 03, 2014, 02:05:36 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 03, 2014, 01:54:37 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 03, 2014, 09:39:43 AMFreedom or not, Iraq was a good war. One of the best, in fact. The biggest mistake was leaving Hussein in power in the 90s.HAHAHAHAHAA!!!! It was as big of a joke as Vietnam, and just as criminal. A complete waste.*Uwotm8gif*Desert Shield/Storm was one of the last easily justifiable wars, that didn't require straight up lying to get the approval to go for it.Iraq starts shitting on Kuwait and the rest of the world kicked their shit in, it's nothing like Vietnam."Weapons of mass destruction"We never had business getting involved.
Quote from: Camnator on November 03, 2014, 01:54:37 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 03, 2014, 09:39:43 AMFreedom or not, Iraq was a good war. One of the best, in fact. The biggest mistake was leaving Hussein in power in the 90s.HAHAHAHAHAA!!!! It was as big of a joke as Vietnam, and just as criminal. A complete waste.*Uwotm8gif*Desert Shield/Storm was one of the last easily justifiable wars, that didn't require straight up lying to get the approval to go for it.Iraq starts shitting on Kuwait and the rest of the world kicked their shit in, it's nothing like Vietnam.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on November 03, 2014, 02:11:20 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 03, 2014, 02:08:16 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on November 03, 2014, 02:05:36 PMI was talking about the '03 Iraq War.Oh silly me, I thought Camnator was laughing at the Gulf War being criminal <.<Nevermind.Well, I still consider most wars criminal. Our involvement in the middle east started long before that.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on November 03, 2014, 02:08:16 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on November 03, 2014, 02:05:36 PMI was talking about the '03 Iraq War.Oh silly me, I thought Camnator was laughing at the Gulf War being criminal <.<Nevermind.
Letting Iraq just rape and annex Kuwait would have been criminal
Quote from: Meta Cognition on November 03, 2014, 02:18:14 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on November 03, 2014, 02:14:25 PMLetting Iraq just rape and annex Kuwait would have been criminalWhich is why I support the '03 war. Putting Hussein back in the 90s, letting him rape the Iraqi people and letting him rape the Kurds was more than criminal.It was still counterproductive.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on November 03, 2014, 02:14:25 PMLetting Iraq just rape and annex Kuwait would have been criminalWhich is why I support the '03 war. Putting Hussein back in the 90s, letting him rape the Iraqi people and letting him rape the Kurds was more than criminal.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on November 03, 2014, 02:14:25 PMI know you do, but the Gulf war is one of those justified wars <.<Letting Iraq just rape and annex Kuwait would have been criminal, kicking them out of the country and blowing up the forces they send to try and take it back isn't comparable to say Vietnam or the present/former war in Iraq.That would still be criminal on our part. We're not in charge of the protection of Kuwait. A war can only be justified when we are directly threatened or attacked.
I know you do, but the Gulf war is one of those justified wars <.<Letting Iraq just rape and annex Kuwait would have been criminal, kicking them out of the country and blowing up the forces they send to try and take it back isn't comparable to say Vietnam or the present/former war in Iraq.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on November 03, 2014, 02:20:40 PMBecause of all the shit that has happened since? Seriously, Cam? You're supporting the continued existence of one of the worst tyrants the world has ever known alongside Hitler, Stalin and Milosevic simply because it created a power vacuum afterwards? I'm disappointed. Hussein was going to die eventually, better sooner than later.Definitely because of what has happened. Look at when we took out the Shah of Iran, he was replaced by someone worse. Our involvements never making things better when our actions are criminal.
Because of all the shit that has happened since? Seriously, Cam? You're supporting the continued existence of one of the worst tyrants the world has ever known alongside Hitler, Stalin and Milosevic simply because it created a power vacuum afterwards? I'm disappointed. Hussein was going to die eventually, better sooner than later.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on November 03, 2014, 02:22:30 PMhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_Defense_TreatyThese things exist for a reason <.<For tyrants to bully the world, ya. Doesn't make it justified or legal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_Defense_TreatyThese things exist for a reason <.<
Soliders in Iraq were fighting for out freedom
