So the healthcare bill failed

 
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Not here to really laugh about it or whatever as the filthy libbie I am, and any news site ever will be talking about it, so no link.

Just figured I'd ask your guy's thoughts on it. Personally I think this is good so they don't try to rush it and actually take the time to construct something that's good throughout rather than have some key really bad spots.


 
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Trump overplayed his hand, Ryan got burned bad, and the Republicans lost a sizable amount of political capital only to pull the bill.

This also hinders their future tax reform endeavors.


 
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That's the word I was looking for earlier. Political capital. Anyway, yeah I pretty much agree with you. Ryan, much like Boehner, can't really get everyone on the same track.


 
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Apparently there's talks of replacing Ryan with Gowdy.

Anyway, kind of glad to see this disaster fall.  The Republicans had 7 years to work on something and still fucked up.  They couldn't unite the party or appeal to the Democrats, and they have control of the Senate, House, and White House.  This is a huge embarrassment for them, and it's going to reflect badly on the party and the leadership.


 
 
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Unrelated but my provinces new head cheese fucked everybody in the ass. Brad Wall. It's like Trump except he's winning.


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We don't know if it was a good thing or not. Anything's better than Obamacare though.


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Do you people think the health care system in the US needs to be changed?
How would you change it? What works, what doesn't?


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That's the word I was looking for earlier. Political capital. Anyway, yeah I pretty much agree with you. Ryan, much like Boehner, can't really get everyone on the same track.

Healthcare is a terribly tricky issue to address for either party. The issue is that Ryan (And Trump) tried to force this through the process in a matter of three weeks - compare that to Clinton's failed health care overhaul that was introduced in early 1993 and failed in 1994, or the ACA, which was introduced in early 2009 and passed in March 2010.

Problem is, Republicans have already begun to rewrite the rules because they assumed they could unite under this bill - Trump directed the IRS to stop enforcing the individual mandate - which in turn threatens to wreck the preexisting conditions requirement. Most people are too dumb to realize this, so if and when the ACA begins to ultimately fail, it'll be immediately hoisted upon the Democrats.


We don't know if it was a good thing or not. Anything's better than Obamacare though.

The Congressional Budget Office estimated that, after all the concessions and deals that were made to appeal to the far-right House Freedom Caucus, 24 million would lose health insurance that was provided under Obamacare (Particularly to the Medicaid expansion) and the deficit reduction estimates would have gone down compared to the original draft - by more than $150 billion.

It was a bad bill, is a bad bill, and it died a bad bill.

Do you people think the health care system in the US needs to be changed?

People are very reactionary to health care over here in the states. Everyone likes to complain about the costs, treatment options, etc. Because of that, almost no one in government wants to touch the issue with a 10 foot pole - it's a deeply polarizing issue that has cost Presidents elections and parties control.
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And they have only themselves to blame. The last election delivered every thing that they wanted and they can't even come to an agreement now.


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Please, for the love of god, start catching on that is man a sad, incompetent and terrible excuse of a president.

It's a shame that he never read that book.

Tangent, but has anyone here read the article about the ghost writer for Art of the Deal explaining how conceited and utterly ignorant Trump is?