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So about this whole Cincinnati Zoo thing

 
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I think we've all caught wind of it within the last 2 days. If not, just check any news site. They had the Gorilla in their zoo for 17 years I believe.

What are your guys's opinions on how it was handled? Who do you think is to blame?

Obviously for me, I think the blame lies with the neglectful parents who somehow let their kid through the barrier.

It's just a shame it came to that. They planned to set him up for breeding too, so it's sad it all came down to that for such an endangered species.
Last Edit: May 30, 2016, 02:36:07 PM by Luciana

 
 
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I only caught a small bit on the news yesterday. Why couldn't they tranq the thing instead of calling the Zimmer to simmer down the situation?

 
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Quote from: 卐RIGHT WING DAS SQUAD卐 on May 30, 2016, 02:39:38 PM
I only caught a small bit on the news yesterday. Why couldn't they tranq the thing instead of calling the Zimmer to simmer down the situation?
Tranq's take 5+ minutes to take effect, and shooting them into an already tense and irritated Gorilla would have probably agitated it more. Could have easily just swung his hand after that and snapped the kids neck.

When he was dragging him through the water, his head almost scraped a nearby grate as well, which would have been an instant death.

 
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The blame lies with the dumbfuck parents and partly with the architects that designed that enclosure. Not much else to discuss really, human stupidity at its prime.

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It was the right choice. A human is always more important than an animal.

The parent and child are to blame for this, but they shouldn't be criminally charged for this or anything.

 
 
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Quote from: Luciana on May 30, 2016, 02:52:51 PM
Quote from: 卐RIGHT WING DAS SQUAD卐 on May 30, 2016, 02:39:38 PM
I only caught a small bit on the news yesterday. Why couldn't they tranq the thing instead of calling the Zimmer to simmer down the situation?
Tranq's take 5+ minutes to take effect, and shooting them into an already tense and irritated Gorilla would have probably agitated it more. Could have easily just swung his hand after that and snapped the kids neck.

When he was dragging him through the water, his head almost scraped a nearby grate as well, which would have been an instant death.
Valid point.
If the gorilla was so valuable tho, why didn't we just let him kill the kid? We've got a billion more of those...

 
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A human is always more important than an animal.
And you make this assertion on what grounds?
I'm a human. My species is more important than a different species.

 
 
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A human is always more important than an animal.
And you make this assertion on what grounds?
I'm a human. My species is more important than a different species.
What the hell type of logic is this?
Anthropocentric logic.

 
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They should have let the gorilla kill the kid and then tossed him the parents as well.

 
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Quote from: Luciana on May 30, 2016, 02:35:04 PM
What are your guys's opinions on how it was handled?
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Who do you think is to blame?
the parents

 
 
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A human is always more important than an animal.
And you make this assertion on what grounds?
I'm white. My race is more important than a different race.
oy vey fucking nazi
There are no races. There's the human race. The differences in each ethnicity are so minor in the large scale that differentiating between them is meaningless.

The differences between species are actually relevant.

 
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Racism boils down to tribalism anyway. It's kind of a misuse of the word if you ask me.

 
 
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A human is always more important than an animal.
And you make this assertion on what grounds?
I'm white. My race is more important than a different race.
oy vey fucking nazi
There are no races. There's the human race. The differences in each ethnicity are so minor in the large scale that differentiating between them is meaningless.

The differences between species are actually relevant.
Relatively speaking, the differences between humans and gorillas are also extremely minor.
Not really. The difference between two species is astronomical enough to prioririze yours over one that isn't yours. The difference between two ethnicities, not so much.

 
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Parents were irresponsible, charges shouldn't be filed, and shooting the gorilla was the best option.

 
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They should have just left whatever was going to happen to the kid happen.

 
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Quote from: SecondClass on May 30, 2016, 03:11:45 PM
It was the right choice. A human is always more important than an animal.

The parent and child are to blame for this, but they shouldn't be criminally charged for this or anything.
No. There are several billion humans. And there is a very low amount of gorillas.

 
 
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If it comes down between a stupid human and a gorilla you choose the stupid human. The gorilla isn't going to sue you for failing to make the place 100% idiot proof.

 
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Quote from: LC on May 30, 2016, 11:28:11 PM
If it comes down between a stupid human and a gorilla you choose the stupid human. The gorilla isn't going to sue you for failing to make the place 100% idiot proof.
it's kind of sad seeing how sueing people for every little thing has become such a part of American culture.

 
 
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A human is always more important than an animal.
And you make this assertion on what grounds?
I'm a human. My species is more important than a different species.
You know, I've never actually seen anyone blatantly admit that they're a bigot before. This is kinda surreal.

 
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A human is always more important than an animal.
And you make this assertion on what grounds?
I'm a human. My species is more important than a different species.
You know, I've never actually seen anyone blatantly admit that they're a bigot before. This is kinda surreal.
I guess I am a bigot when it comes down to other species. I can admit that. I try to treat all humans equally, though, and that includes people society looks down on.

 
 
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Quote from: Verbatim on May 30, 2016, 11:54:34 PM
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A human is always more important than an animal.
And you make this assertion on what grounds?
I'm a human. My species is more important than a different species.
You know, I've never actually seen anyone blatantly admit that they're a bigot before. This is kinda surreal.
It's quite a common thing to run into. Human lives will always take precedent over animal ones, regardless of how you feel on the issue.

Though I wish the mother fell in so natural selection could do its job.

 
 
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