The ideal form of government has pretty much always been Plato's idea of a philosopher king, a benevolent ruler suported by an elite class of highly intelligent professionals who can keep him and the rest of the government in line. And the problem has always been one of succession, a good ruler is garbage if he isn't followed by someone equally capable.

People argue that the role of democracy is to shift the burden of the intelligent ruler/succession onto the entire voting block, so that numerous individual faults can be averaged out, ideally leading to the voters tending towards voting in the best person everytime. But it completely fails to take into account the influence media and social pressures wield over voting decisions. Sure the voters choose who runs the country, but the media chooses who the voters want to choose.

Let me make the songs of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws

Moreover, the initial assumption is false anyway, because democracy requires every voter to not only be highly informed on how the country should be run, but to also keep track of the political history of every candidate and their cabinet, which is equivalent to requiring that every voter be a philosopher king themselves, instead of only needing one or maybe two consuls.

Generally the best solution is the simplest, if only because it has the least amount of ways it can go wrong.  Democracy is about making the most inneficent system possible, where the maximum number of people are required to make it work, not the minimum. And this is just some of the A Priori critiques of democracy, I haven't even got to the technical issues that arise when you try to implement such a system, the very fact that voter turnout is universally low should illustrate that it's a broken system that does not mesh well with any group of people.

The proper solution has always been to find a way to improve the succession process of the rulers, not to abolish them and replace them with a system that devolves into oligarchy every single time.

Quote from: Verbatim on November 22, 2016, 01:15:28 PM

Quote from: REMOVE NARCOS on November 22, 2016, 01:13:39 PM

Isn't the whole point to prevent sprawling cities like New York and LA from swinging every election in their favour?

Seems pretty reasonable IMO.

Yeah, now we have fuckhead rural counties swinging the elections in their favor. Brilliant.

Literally the verry communism that the flag fondlers who support the EC claim to hate, evept instead of money, it's with political power.

I really don't see how that's a valid comparison.

Why not have popular vote? Because San Fransico's life style shouldn't be the rule on which we choose to build our country on.

Yes it should.

Why should a single city, who's dependent on government "gib me dats", and who's people have never had to work labor in their life, have rule over the majority of the country.

Needs of the many > Needs of the few.

Ignoring all the politcal aspects alone, just difference in culture is enough. A person in Commiefornia voting to ban all guns and let muslims fuck their wife doesn't know a single thing about having to shoot Coyotes  that come into your backyard or killing a bear that wondered into your town.

Neat!

Quote from: Dapper_Droid on December 02, 2016, 01:24:12 PM

Why should a single city, who's dependent on government "gib me dats", and who's people have never had to work labor in their life, have rule over the majority of the country.

Needs of the many > Needs of the few.

That's what I try telling abolitionists, bro. Who gives a fuck about a few thousand slaves when the whole damn country benefits from em?

Quote from: Dapper_Droid on December 02, 2016, 01:29:56 PM

Not in a Democratic-Republic. Don't like it? Go somewhere else.

Staying here because I like how my dissenting opinions trigger you.

>Dissenting opinion
>Having the same opinion as every liberal college campus student and cultural marxist

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Quote from: Dapper_Droid on December 02, 2016, 01:57:58 PM

>Dissenting opinion
>Having the same opinion as every liberal college campus student and cultural marxist

It's different from yours, and those of everyone else here, which is what "dissenting" means.

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>Thinks its conservative outside a few shitposts

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