ISIS is saying that this is the first in a storm of assaults. Thoughts on that?
Okay beforehand I will say that I am no good with politics and world news at all. What if some of the refugees that came into France were like, ISIS spies or something? There were so many of them it's hard to check them all.Didn't they even say something along those lines a while ago?Just a thought, correct me if I'm being retarded.
Quote from: Winy on November 14, 2015, 01:44:31 PMWhat exactly is it about Islam that makes it seem so more prone to violence? I'm only recently starting to consider the possibility that it's actually not just the crazy people, it's part of the doctrine.It also politicizes itself, which most religions don't do.
What exactly is it about Islam that makes it seem so more prone to violence? I'm only recently starting to consider the possibility that it's actually not just the crazy people, it's part of the doctrine.
Quote from: Winy on November 14, 2015, 01:44:31 PMWhat exactly is it about Islam that makes it seem so more prone to violence? I'm only recently starting to consider the possibility that it's actually not just the crazy people, it's part of the doctrine.It was founded by a literal warlord and in 90% of the areas it makes up the majority religion it was spread through violence and coercion.It also politicizes itself, which most religions don't do.
Quote from: Big Boss on November 14, 2015, 02:46:49 PMOkay beforehand I will say that I am no good with politics and world news at all. What if some of the refugees that came into France were like, ISIS spies or something? There were so many of them it's hard to check them all.Didn't they even say something along those lines a while ago?Just a thought, correct me if I'm being retarded.A Syrian passport was found on the body of one of the hostiles. The reality is that the open borders made it easy for sympathizers, or even actual members of IS, to hide among the refugees.
Quote from: Azumarill on November 14, 2015, 02:51:37 PMQuote from: Big Boss on November 14, 2015, 02:46:49 PMOkay beforehand I will say that I am no good with politics and world news at all. What if some of the refugees that came into France were like, ISIS spies or something? There were so many of them it's hard to check them all.Didn't they even say something along those lines a while ago?Just a thought, correct me if I'm being retarded.A Syrian passport was found on the body of one of the hostiles. The reality is that the open borders made it easy for sympathizers, or even actual members of IS, to hide among the refugees.So it's highly likely that they sneaked in among the refugees then?
Quote from: Big Boss on November 14, 2015, 03:11:46 PMQuote from: Azumarill on November 14, 2015, 02:51:37 PMQuote from: Big Boss on November 14, 2015, 02:46:49 PMOkay beforehand I will say that I am no good with politics and world news at all. What if some of the refugees that came into France were like, ISIS spies or something? There were so many of them it's hard to check them all.Didn't they even say something along those lines a while ago?Just a thought, correct me if I'm being retarded.A Syrian passport was found on the body of one of the hostiles. The reality is that the open borders made it easy for sympathizers, or even actual members of IS, to hide among the refugees.So it's highly likely that they sneaked in among the refugees then?IIRC, I believe I read somewhere that (at least) one of the attackers was a French citizen, and that some of the attackers were seen driving cars with a Belgian license plate.Take it as a grain of salt as to how the attackers got to Paris.
Quote from: Fagcicle on November 14, 2015, 03:14:16 PMQuote from: Big Boss on November 14, 2015, 03:11:46 PMQuote from: Azumarill on November 14, 2015, 02:51:37 PMQuote from: Big Boss on November 14, 2015, 02:46:49 PMOkay beforehand I will say that I am no good with politics and world news at all. What if some of the refugees that came into France were like, ISIS spies or something? There were so many of them it's hard to check them all.Didn't they even say something along those lines a while ago?Just a thought, correct me if I'm being retarded.A Syrian passport was found on the body of one of the hostiles. The reality is that the open borders made it easy for sympathizers, or even actual members of IS, to hide among the refugees.So it's highly likely that they sneaked in among the refugees then?IIRC, I believe I read somewhere that (at least) one of the attackers was a French citizen, and that some of the attackers were seen driving cars with a Belgian license plate.Take it as a grain of salt as to how the attackers got to Paris.Extremist thought and action spreads memetically, and manifests itself as a stand alone complex in many scenarios. I wouldn't be surprised if the Paris attacks were perpetrated by extremists from many different walks of life, like you say.
Is there any news of possible attacks? I saw a thing on Facebook about ISIS marking London, Washington and Rome as future targets, but y'know, Facebook. Any news on that?
What are actual, good sources of information on the debate between whether or not Islam is more violent than other religions?
Quote from: Big Boss on November 14, 2015, 03:24:10 PMIs there any news of possible attacks? I saw a thing on Facebook about ISIS marking London, Washington and Rome as future targets, but y'know, Facebook. Any news on that?We'll see. If ISIS actually has the balls to attack Rome then maybe there actually will be a modern crusade.
They want to draw us into a war. They'll likely succeed in the future.
They would essentially become martyrs to their cause and possibly inspire more extremist groups.
Quote from: ObamaLover69 on November 14, 2015, 03:49:53 PMThey would essentially become martyrs to their cause and possibly inspire more extremist groups.So their end-game is to anger us to kill them so they can meet their God a few decades sooner? Do they expect (and want) to lose this war?
They expect it to further radicalize the Muslim population and fuel extremist groups.
And then what? To my knowledge, the U.S. + it's allies versus ISIS would be a shit-show. We'd win -- easily. 'Fueling more extremists groups' wouldn't seem to work as well if we're absolutely decimating their forces...Unless I'm misunderstanding the situation.
Quote from: Eliab on November 14, 2015, 04:05:11 PMAnd then what? To my knowledge, the U.S. + it's allies versus ISIS would be a shit-show. We'd win -- easily. 'Fueling more extremists groups' wouldn't seem to work as well if we're absolutely decimating their forces...Unless I'm misunderstanding the situation.No one really knows, them fuckers really think they can establish a world wide caliphate
Shootings/explosions/hostages held in Paris. [129 dead]
