If the attacks in Paris, Egypt and Lebanon were all directed by ISIS Central, it represents a major shift in its global strategy considering up until now it's only been focusing on local areas in the Levant.
I wouldn't go anywhere in Europe right now, period.
Quote from: Iberian Husky on November 13, 2015, 06:24:59 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 06:22:40 PMQuote from: Winy on November 13, 2015, 06:12:44 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 06:09:09 PMQuote from: Winy on November 13, 2015, 06:07:15 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 06:04:57 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 13, 2015, 06:02:34 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 05:47:26 PMAlthough I'm not so sure I'd be so quick to blame religion, which I'm seeing most people do. This seems more political/ideologically motivated.Are you FUCKING kidding me?You're blaming an entire religion of people for the acts of a radical group.Yes, we are. Just because a bunch of people believe in something, and use it for mostly good purposes, doesn't mean it isn't a dangerous ideology in many respects.Nevertheless as a whole 1.57 billion people aren't evil. What the radicals are doing is exactly the reason why there are so many refugees fleeing.I'm aware. I'm not saying, by any means, that all Muslims are evil. That's ridiculous, because it's obvious that the vast majority of them are normal, peaceful people. But that doesn't mean that I don't believe Islam sometimes expresses a higher tendency to escalate into extremism. This is nothing against the people who practice it, but I am going to say that I'm beginning to think this way about the Islamic religion. It's volatile.History has shown us that the baton for extremism tends to jump around. Seriously, look at the Crusades. While Christan based countries were engulfed in war and constant attacks, Islamic countries were peaceful and flourishing, and we saw the rise of some of brilliant mathematicians, science, and art.The reason why moderates can show to be somewhat sympathetic is because it's similar to nationalism, same way that moderate Christians during the Crusades would've been.>Implying that the Crusades weren't a reaction to centuries of Muslim invasions.Dude this was a time when countries were empires and we had kings and emperors instead of presidents and prime ministers. Countries were constantly trying to dominate one another, and that was all about power.
Quote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 06:22:40 PMQuote from: Winy on November 13, 2015, 06:12:44 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 06:09:09 PMQuote from: Winy on November 13, 2015, 06:07:15 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 06:04:57 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 13, 2015, 06:02:34 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 05:47:26 PMAlthough I'm not so sure I'd be so quick to blame religion, which I'm seeing most people do. This seems more political/ideologically motivated.Are you FUCKING kidding me?You're blaming an entire religion of people for the acts of a radical group.Yes, we are. Just because a bunch of people believe in something, and use it for mostly good purposes, doesn't mean it isn't a dangerous ideology in many respects.Nevertheless as a whole 1.57 billion people aren't evil. What the radicals are doing is exactly the reason why there are so many refugees fleeing.I'm aware. I'm not saying, by any means, that all Muslims are evil. That's ridiculous, because it's obvious that the vast majority of them are normal, peaceful people. But that doesn't mean that I don't believe Islam sometimes expresses a higher tendency to escalate into extremism. This is nothing against the people who practice it, but I am going to say that I'm beginning to think this way about the Islamic religion. It's volatile.History has shown us that the baton for extremism tends to jump around. Seriously, look at the Crusades. While Christan based countries were engulfed in war and constant attacks, Islamic countries were peaceful and flourishing, and we saw the rise of some of brilliant mathematicians, science, and art.The reason why moderates can show to be somewhat sympathetic is because it's similar to nationalism, same way that moderate Christians during the Crusades would've been.>Implying that the Crusades weren't a reaction to centuries of Muslim invasions.
Quote from: Winy on November 13, 2015, 06:12:44 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 06:09:09 PMQuote from: Winy on November 13, 2015, 06:07:15 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 06:04:57 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 13, 2015, 06:02:34 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 05:47:26 PMAlthough I'm not so sure I'd be so quick to blame religion, which I'm seeing most people do. This seems more political/ideologically motivated.Are you FUCKING kidding me?You're blaming an entire religion of people for the acts of a radical group.Yes, we are. Just because a bunch of people believe in something, and use it for mostly good purposes, doesn't mean it isn't a dangerous ideology in many respects.Nevertheless as a whole 1.57 billion people aren't evil. What the radicals are doing is exactly the reason why there are so many refugees fleeing.I'm aware. I'm not saying, by any means, that all Muslims are evil. That's ridiculous, because it's obvious that the vast majority of them are normal, peaceful people. But that doesn't mean that I don't believe Islam sometimes expresses a higher tendency to escalate into extremism. This is nothing against the people who practice it, but I am going to say that I'm beginning to think this way about the Islamic religion. It's volatile.History has shown us that the baton for extremism tends to jump around. Seriously, look at the Crusades. While Christan based countries were engulfed in war and constant attacks, Islamic countries were peaceful and flourishing, and we saw the rise of some of brilliant mathematicians, science, and art.The reason why moderates can show to be somewhat sympathetic is because it's similar to nationalism, same way that moderate Christians during the Crusades would've been.
Quote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 06:09:09 PMQuote from: Winy on November 13, 2015, 06:07:15 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 06:04:57 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 13, 2015, 06:02:34 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 05:47:26 PMAlthough I'm not so sure I'd be so quick to blame religion, which I'm seeing most people do. This seems more political/ideologically motivated.Are you FUCKING kidding me?You're blaming an entire religion of people for the acts of a radical group.Yes, we are. Just because a bunch of people believe in something, and use it for mostly good purposes, doesn't mean it isn't a dangerous ideology in many respects.Nevertheless as a whole 1.57 billion people aren't evil. What the radicals are doing is exactly the reason why there are so many refugees fleeing.I'm aware. I'm not saying, by any means, that all Muslims are evil. That's ridiculous, because it's obvious that the vast majority of them are normal, peaceful people. But that doesn't mean that I don't believe Islam sometimes expresses a higher tendency to escalate into extremism. This is nothing against the people who practice it, but I am going to say that I'm beginning to think this way about the Islamic religion. It's volatile.
Quote from: Winy on November 13, 2015, 06:07:15 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 06:04:57 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 13, 2015, 06:02:34 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 05:47:26 PMAlthough I'm not so sure I'd be so quick to blame religion, which I'm seeing most people do. This seems more political/ideologically motivated.Are you FUCKING kidding me?You're blaming an entire religion of people for the acts of a radical group.Yes, we are. Just because a bunch of people believe in something, and use it for mostly good purposes, doesn't mean it isn't a dangerous ideology in many respects.Nevertheless as a whole 1.57 billion people aren't evil. What the radicals are doing is exactly the reason why there are so many refugees fleeing.
Quote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 06:04:57 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 13, 2015, 06:02:34 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 05:47:26 PMAlthough I'm not so sure I'd be so quick to blame religion, which I'm seeing most people do. This seems more political/ideologically motivated.Are you FUCKING kidding me?You're blaming an entire religion of people for the acts of a radical group.Yes, we are. Just because a bunch of people believe in something, and use it for mostly good purposes, doesn't mean it isn't a dangerous ideology in many respects.
Quote from: challengerX on November 13, 2015, 06:02:34 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 05:47:26 PMAlthough I'm not so sure I'd be so quick to blame religion, which I'm seeing most people do. This seems more political/ideologically motivated.Are you FUCKING kidding me?You're blaming an entire religion of people for the acts of a radical group.
Quote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 05:47:26 PMAlthough I'm not so sure I'd be so quick to blame religion, which I'm seeing most people do. This seems more political/ideologically motivated.Are you FUCKING kidding me?
Although I'm not so sure I'd be so quick to blame religion, which I'm seeing most people do. This seems more political/ideologically motivated.
I'd make a distinction between the Muslims that are adapting to western society and those that would be in the masses. Denouncing all of Islam would only serve to outcast those Muslims that aren't a problem, and make them more likely to become one or be spiteful. The amount that has/is adapted is a minority, but sweeping generalizations in times like this tend to create problems.
I'm not sure what has you so confused. I asked you if you would live in a Muslim country. You said no. Because you'd be killed for being homosexual.
So why is it you defend these so called "moderates" when they would fucking end your life for no reason?
Reports coming in that around 100 people were killed at the concert hall alone.
Quote from: Thunder on November 13, 2015, 06:34:21 PMReports coming in that around 100 people were killed at the concert hall alone.My cousin just told me he saw 150 total.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 13, 2015, 06:30:53 PMI'd make a distinction between the Muslims that are adapting to western society and those that would be in the masses. Denouncing all of Islam would only serve to outcast those Muslims that aren't a problem, and make them more likely to become one or be spiteful. The amount that has/is adapted is a minority, but sweeping generalizations in times like this tend to create problems.I'm not making generalizations about the people of Islam, I am saying that I'm starting to be less and less fond of their doctrine, though. It seems predisposed to violence, and much worse so than any other religion.
Obama expanded the drone program big time and has continued special operations. Fuck are you talking about.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 13, 2015, 06:30:53 PMI'd make a distinction between the Muslims that are adapting to western society and those that would be in the masses. Denouncing all of Islam would only serve to outcast those Muslims that aren't a problem, and make them more likely to become one or be spiteful. The amount that has/is adapted is a minority, but sweeping generalizations in times like this tend to create problems.Those pretty much only exist in America, oddly enough.
Quote from: gatsby on November 13, 2015, 06:28:52 PMIf the attacks in Paris, Egypt and Lebanon were all directed by ISIS Central, it represents a major shift in its global strategy considering up until now it's only been focusing on local areas in the Levant.Curious if the news regarding Jihadi John prompted this.
1500 soldiers have been dropped in
Quote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 13, 2015, 06:43:18 PM1500 soldiers have been dropped inJesus Christ.
American Airlines has cancelled all flights to France