Shootings/explosions/hostages held in Paris. [129 dead]

 
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If the attacks in Paris, Egypt and Lebanon were all directed by ISIS Central, it represents a major shift in its global strategy considering up until now it's only been focusing on local areas in the Levant.

Curious if the news regarding Jihadi John prompted this.



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I wouldn't go anywhere in Europe right now, period.
My sister is going to London for a few weeks this winter, and now I don't fucking want her to.


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I'd make a distinction between the Muslims that are adapting to western society and those that would be in the masses. Denouncing all of Islam would only serve to outcast those Muslims that aren't a problem, and make them more likely to become one or be spiteful. The amount that has/is adapted is a minority, but sweeping generalizations in times like this tend to create problems.


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If the attacks in Paris, Egypt and Lebanon were all directed by ISIS Central, it represents a major shift in its global strategy considering up until now it's only been focusing on local areas in the Levant.
I think I'm gonna vote Republican next year so we can get shit done against these dirt-eaters.


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Although I'm not so sure I'd be so quick to blame religion, which I'm seeing most people do. This seems more political/ideologically motivated.
Are you FUCKING kidding me?
You're blaming an entire religion of people for the acts of a radical group.
Yes, we are.

Just because a bunch of people believe in something, and use it for mostly good purposes, doesn't mean it isn't a dangerous ideology in many respects.
Nevertheless as a whole 1.57 billion people aren't evil. What the radicals are doing is exactly the reason why there are so many refugees fleeing.
I'm aware. I'm not saying, by any means, that all Muslims are evil. That's ridiculous, because it's obvious that the vast majority of them are normal, peaceful people. But that doesn't mean that I don't believe Islam sometimes expresses a higher tendency to escalate into extremism. This is nothing against the people who practice it, but I am going to say that I'm beginning to think this way about the Islamic religion. It's volatile.
History has shown us that the baton for extremism tends to jump around. Seriously, look at the Crusades. While Christan based countries were engulfed in war and constant attacks, Islamic countries were peaceful and flourishing, and we saw the rise of some of brilliant mathematicians, science, and art.

The reason why moderates can show to be somewhat sympathetic is because it's similar to nationalism, same way that moderate Christians during the Crusades would've been.
>Implying that the Crusades weren't a reaction to centuries of Muslim invasions.
Dude this was a time when countries were empires and we had kings and emperors instead of presidents and prime ministers. Countries were constantly trying to dominate one another, and that was all about power.
Urban II had several agendas on hand. One, to expand the Roman church's influence across the Mediterranean. Unmolested travel for Christian pilgrims in the holy land was another. Another big one was that a good deal of knights were getting into a lot of trouble in their homelands, committing horrible crimes, and they would be promised earthly and spiritual salvation/forgiveness for those sins if they participated. Oh, and Urban was kinda asked by the Byzantine emperor Alexius I Comnenus to do it.

But clearly it was god's will that the good, squeaky-clean white christians wage holy war against the brown devil. If we're to believe these historically illiterate chanfags, that is.
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I'd make a distinction between the Muslims that are adapting to western society and those that would be in the masses. Denouncing all of Islam would only serve to outcast those Muslims that aren't a problem, and make them more likely to become one or be spiteful. The amount that has/is adapted is a minority, but sweeping generalizations in times like this tend to create problems.
I'm not making generalizations about the people of Islam, I am saying that I'm starting to be less and less fond of their doctrine, though. It seems predisposed to violence, and much worse so than any other religion.


 
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I'm not sure what has you so confused.

I asked you if you would live in a Muslim country. You said no. Because you'd be killed for being homosexual.

I'd be jailed for life for being gay in Russia. Again, I wouldn't live there. There's a bunch of shitholes in the world that I would choose not to live in for my safety. Iran, Iraq, Syria, etc. being some of them.

Jordan and Tunisia are the only thing close to a maybe.

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So why is it you defend these so called "moderates" when they would fucking end your life for no reason?

Cause I have several Muslim friends who aren't calling for my death? There's a Muslim guy in my workplace that I discuss the news with, not him preparing to stone me?

There are plenty of normal Muslims who want nothing to do with terrorism, jihadism, and all of the negatives to Islam. And I'm not going to have this discussion for a third time.


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Reports coming in that around 100 people were killed at the concert hall alone.


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Although I'm not so sure I'd be so quick to blame religion, which I'm seeing most people do. This seems more political/ideologically motivated.
Are you FUCKING kidding me?
You're blaming an entire religion of people for the acts of a radical group.
Yes, we are.

Just because a bunch of people believe in something, and use it for mostly good purposes, doesn't mean it isn't a dangerous ideology in many respects.
Nevertheless as a whole 1.57 billion people aren't evil. What the radicals are doing is exactly the reason why there are so many refugees fleeing.
I'm aware. I'm not saying, by any means, that all Muslims are evil. That's ridiculous, because it's obvious that the vast majority of them are normal, peaceful people. But that doesn't mean that I don't believe Islam sometimes expresses a higher tendency to escalate into extremism. This is nothing against the people who practice it, but I am going to say that I'm beginning to think this way about the Islamic religion. It's volatile.
History has shown us that the baton for extremism tends to jump around. Seriously, look at the Crusades. While Christan based countries were engulfed in war and constant attacks, Islamic countries were peaceful and flourishing, and we saw the rise of some of brilliant mathematicians, science, and art.

The reason why moderates can show to be somewhat sympathetic is because it's similar to nationalism, same way that moderate Christians during the Crusades would've been.
>Implying that the Crusades weren't a reaction to centuries of Muslim invasions.
Dude this was a time when countries were empires and we had kings and emperors instead of presidents and prime ministers. Countries were constantly trying to dominate one another, and that was all about power.
Presidents and kings play the same general role, the difference being in how they come to power. There was more to the crusades than just power, and there was more than just religious clashes. He is right about the Crusades partly being a response to Muslim incursions and the policies in Jerusalem, which was controlled by Muslims at the time.


 
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Reports coming in that around 100 people were killed at the concert hall alone.
My cousin just told me he saw 150 total.


 
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Reports coming in that around 100 people were killed at the concert hall alone.
My cousin just told me he saw 150 total.
I haven't updated the title because it doesn't really matter tbh.


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Oh, hey.
100 dead inside concert hall


 
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I'd make a distinction between the Muslims that are adapting to western society and those that would be in the masses. Denouncing all of Islam would only serve to outcast those Muslims that aren't a problem, and make them more likely to become one or be spiteful. The amount that has/is adapted is a minority, but sweeping generalizations in times like this tend to create problems.
Those pretty much only exist in America, oddly enough.


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
I'd make a distinction between the Muslims that are adapting to western society and those that would be in the masses. Denouncing all of Islam would only serve to outcast those Muslims that aren't a problem, and make them more likely to become one or be spiteful. The amount that has/is adapted is a minority, but sweeping generalizations in times like this tend to create problems.
I'm not making generalizations about the people of Islam, I am saying that I'm starting to be less and less fond of their doctrine, though. It seems predisposed to violence, and much worse so than any other religion.
I can look up the Old Testament verses supporting war and genocide for the sake of God's people if necessary.

Every religion tends to have catches like these that support these actions, it ultimately lies up to the followers to decide how the masses interpret it. Islam is in a time where the pro-war interpretations are more prevalent than others, Judaism went through a period to(as mentioned in the Old Testament), and so did Christianity. Both changed over time to be less violent, Islam likely will too.


 
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Obama expanded the drone program big time and has continued special operations. Fuck are you talking about.
We need MORE, like only a war hungry Republican could offer.


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
I'd make a distinction between the Muslims that are adapting to western society and those that would be in the masses. Denouncing all of Islam would only serve to outcast those Muslims that aren't a problem, and make them more likely to become one or be spiteful. The amount that has/is adapted is a minority, but sweeping generalizations in times like this tend to create problems.
Those pretty much only exist in America, oddly enough.
Yeah, but I live near Dearborn and I don't want little Iraq to get riled up by shouts of "Islam bad".


 
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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
If the attacks in Paris, Egypt and Lebanon were all directed by ISIS Central, it represents a major shift in its global strategy considering up until now it's only been focusing on local areas in the Levant.

Curious if the news regarding Jihadi John prompted this.
That's definitely one of the possibilities, France also did recently announce its sending it's aircraft carrier to start attacks in Syria.


 
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Oh, hey.
1500 soldiers have been dropped in

French, correct?


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1500 soldiers have been dropped in
Jesus Christ.


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
1500 soldiers have been dropped in
Jesus Christ.
Has his presence on the battlefield been confirmed?


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American Airlines has cancelled all flights to France
I'll just leave the updates to you. You're way ahead of me.


 
 
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Hearing 158 being tossed around as the death toll, anyone confirm?