Quote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 03:13:16 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 20, 2014, 03:12:29 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:47:38 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 20, 2014, 02:47:14 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:45:41 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 20, 2014, 02:24:27 PMBest form of rape prevention right here. I'd make sure if I ever have a daughter, she'd get one before going off to collegeGreat. And for the people who don't want to carry a gun everywhere?That will get the point across (pun intended)I'm not even going to bother trying to have a discussion with you on the subject...Because my suggestions are "too violent"?Because they're fucking impractical.How is carrying a gun impractical? This is a .380 handgun. It's small enough to git in the palm of a hand, very easy to conceal, light weight, and can be placed in a female's purse or a small shoulder bagHere's also a very clever holster, one that looks like a wallet. You go to pull out what a robber thinks is your wallet and bam, give em a taste of sweet .380 justice
Quote from: Kinder on November 20, 2014, 03:12:29 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:47:38 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 20, 2014, 02:47:14 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:45:41 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 20, 2014, 02:24:27 PMBest form of rape prevention right here. I'd make sure if I ever have a daughter, she'd get one before going off to collegeGreat. And for the people who don't want to carry a gun everywhere?That will get the point across (pun intended)I'm not even going to bother trying to have a discussion with you on the subject...Because my suggestions are "too violent"?Because they're fucking impractical.
Quote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:47:38 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 20, 2014, 02:47:14 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:45:41 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 20, 2014, 02:24:27 PMBest form of rape prevention right here. I'd make sure if I ever have a daughter, she'd get one before going off to collegeGreat. And for the people who don't want to carry a gun everywhere?That will get the point across (pun intended)I'm not even going to bother trying to have a discussion with you on the subject...Because my suggestions are "too violent"?
Quote from: Kinder on November 20, 2014, 02:47:14 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:45:41 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 20, 2014, 02:24:27 PMBest form of rape prevention right here. I'd make sure if I ever have a daughter, she'd get one before going off to collegeGreat. And for the people who don't want to carry a gun everywhere?That will get the point across (pun intended)I'm not even going to bother trying to have a discussion with you on the subject...
Quote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:45:41 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 20, 2014, 02:24:27 PMBest form of rape prevention right here. I'd make sure if I ever have a daughter, she'd get one before going off to collegeGreat. And for the people who don't want to carry a gun everywhere?That will get the point across (pun intended)
Quote from: Kinder on November 20, 2014, 02:24:27 PMBest form of rape prevention right here. I'd make sure if I ever have a daughter, she'd get one before going off to collegeGreat. And for the people who don't want to carry a gun everywhere?
Best form of rape prevention right here. I'd make sure if I ever have a daughter, she'd get one before going off to college
Quote from: Kinder on November 20, 2014, 03:16:46 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 03:13:16 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 20, 2014, 03:12:29 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:47:38 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 20, 2014, 02:47:14 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:45:41 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 20, 2014, 02:24:27 PMBest form of rape prevention right here. I'd make sure if I ever have a daughter, she'd get one before going off to collegeGreat. And for the people who don't want to carry a gun everywhere?That will get the point across (pun intended)I'm not even going to bother trying to have a discussion with you on the subject...Because my suggestions are "too violent"?Because they're fucking impractical.How is carrying a gun impractical? This is a .380 handgun. It's small enough to git in the palm of a hand, very easy to conceal, light weight, and can be placed in a female's purse or a small shoulder bagHere's also a very clever holster, one that looks like a wallet. You go to pull out what a robber thinks is your wallet and bam, give em a taste of sweet .380 justiceRead the story in the OP, please. Or go onto the hundreds of other news sites and read the stories of hundreds, thousands of victims.Just carrying a gun does not mean you'll be able to get to it when being attacked.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on November 20, 2014, 02:51:52 PMFor the same reason, we need to focus efforts on female students when it comes to managing oneself with alcohol.The efforts need to not be solely on the education of female students, though. These fraternities that are known to be breeding grounds for sexual assault need to be dealt with as well.
For the same reason, we need to focus efforts on female students when it comes to managing oneself with alcohol.
Quote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:53:27 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 20, 2014, 02:51:52 PMFor the same reason, we need to focus efforts on female students when it comes to managing oneself with alcohol.The efforts need to not be solely on the education of female students, though. These fraternities that are known to be breeding grounds for sexual assault need to be dealt with as well.Because frats are the only place where rape happens. Get real.
Quote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:34:31 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:53:27 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 20, 2014, 02:51:52 PMFor the same reason, we need to focus efforts on female students when it comes to managing oneself with alcohol.The efforts need to not be solely on the education of female students, though. These fraternities that are known to be breeding grounds for sexual assault need to be dealt with as well.Because frats are the only place where rape happens. Get real.Nowhere in Icy's post did he say, or even imply, that frats are the only place where rape happens. Chill.
Quote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:34:31 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:53:27 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 20, 2014, 02:51:52 PMFor the same reason, we need to focus efforts on female students when it comes to managing oneself with alcohol.The efforts need to not be solely on the education of female students, though. These fraternities that are known to be breeding grounds for sexual assault need to be dealt with as well.Because frats are the only place where rape happens. Get real.Just a significant percentage. No big deal.
Oh ok. A significant percentage of Black people commit crimes. We gotta shut down all black people right?
Quote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 03:37:56 PMQuote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:34:31 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:53:27 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 20, 2014, 02:51:52 PMFor the same reason, we need to focus efforts on female students when it comes to managing oneself with alcohol.The efforts need to not be solely on the education of female students, though. These fraternities that are known to be breeding grounds for sexual assault need to be dealt with as well.Because frats are the only place where rape happens. Get real.Just a significant percentage. No big deal.Oh ok. A significant percentage of Black people commit crimes. We gotta shut down all black people right?
Quote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:43:24 PMOh ok. A significant percentage of Black people commit crimes. We gotta shut down all black people right?No, but better education for the black communities would go a long way. Icy's arguing exactly the same thing for frats. He isn't saying we should shut down frats.
Quote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:43:24 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 03:37:56 PMQuote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:34:31 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:53:27 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 20, 2014, 02:51:52 PMFor the same reason, we need to focus efforts on female students when it comes to managing oneself with alcohol.The efforts need to not be solely on the education of female students, though. These fraternities that are known to be breeding grounds for sexual assault need to be dealt with as well.Because frats are the only place where rape happens. Get real.Just a significant percentage. No big deal.Oh ok. A significant percentage of Black people commit crimes. We gotta shut down all black people right?Nah. Just the frats that are known to be where sexual assaults happen routinely. Especially where members know it happens and don't report.
Quote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 03:46:52 PMQuote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:43:24 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 03:37:56 PMQuote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:34:31 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:53:27 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 20, 2014, 02:51:52 PMFor the same reason, we need to focus efforts on female students when it comes to managing oneself with alcohol.The efforts need to not be solely on the education of female students, though. These fraternities that are known to be breeding grounds for sexual assault need to be dealt with as well.Because frats are the only place where rape happens. Get real.Just a significant percentage. No big deal.Oh ok. A significant percentage of Black people commit crimes. We gotta shut down all black people right?Nah. Just the frats that are known to be where sexual assaults happen routinely. Especially where members know it happens and don't report.Never snitch on a brother.
Never snitch on a brother.
Quote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:48:46 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 03:46:52 PMQuote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:43:24 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 03:37:56 PMQuote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:34:31 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:53:27 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 20, 2014, 02:51:52 PMFor the same reason, we need to focus efforts on female students when it comes to managing oneself with alcohol.The efforts need to not be solely on the education of female students, though. These fraternities that are known to be breeding grounds for sexual assault need to be dealt with as well.Because frats are the only place where rape happens. Get real.Just a significant percentage. No big deal.Oh ok. A significant percentage of Black people commit crimes. We gotta shut down all black people right?Nah. Just the frats that are known to be where sexual assaults happen routinely. Especially where members know it happens and don't report.Never snitch on a brother.Yeah, done with you on this.
I'm slightly with PSU on this topic. We recently had a judge in this country saying women need to learn to drink more responsibly, because it's making rape cases extremely hard on the judiciary. By no means am I excusing the rapists, and I certainly think there is something of a sexual assault "culture" among students - although out of sheer ignorance, not malice. Education is the best option, and teaching students about what crosses the boundaries and where consent lies. Education, however, is a marathon and in the meantime you need to prop your efforts up. You can have social programmes in Detroit, but you don't walk through the middle of the city with a fat wad of fifties. For the same reason, we need to focus efforts on female students when it comes to managing oneself with alcohol.
Quote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 03:50:22 PMQuote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:48:46 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 03:46:52 PMQuote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:43:24 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 03:37:56 PMQuote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:34:31 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:53:27 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 20, 2014, 02:51:52 PMFor the same reason, we need to focus efforts on female students when it comes to managing oneself with alcohol.The efforts need to not be solely on the education of female students, though. These fraternities that are known to be breeding grounds for sexual assault need to be dealt with as well.Because frats are the only place where rape happens. Get real.Just a significant percentage. No big deal.Oh ok. A significant percentage of Black people commit crimes. We gotta shut down all black people right?Nah. Just the frats that are known to be where sexual assaults happen routinely. Especially where members know it happens and don't report.Never snitch on a brother.Yeah, done with you on this.Except that doesn't just apply to frats. It applies to family and friends too.
It's just disgusting that people can act like that. Everyone in that Fraternity needs to be sent to prison.
Quote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:48:46 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 03:46:52 PMQuote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:43:24 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 03:37:56 PMQuote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:34:31 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 20, 2014, 02:53:27 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 20, 2014, 02:51:52 PMFor the same reason, we need to focus efforts on female students when it comes to managing oneself with alcohol.The efforts need to not be solely on the education of female students, though. These fraternities that are known to be breeding grounds for sexual assault need to be dealt with as well.Because frats are the only place where rape happens. Get real.Just a significant percentage. No big deal.Oh ok. A significant percentage of Black people commit crimes. We gotta shut down all black people right?Nah. Just the frats that are known to be where sexual assaults happen routinely. Especially where members know it happens and don't report.Never snitch on a brother. that is NOT how you fucking follow the code, sure, don't snitch on a brother WITHIN REASON, No snitching means that if you pull something small off like rigging water fountains, or spray painting a wall, you don't snitch. The code is for small stuff, when shit gets serious, and someone is hurt, or someone takes things too far, the code is invalidated, raping someone, or doing extreme damage to someone is the point where that person is kicked out. you're a fucking disgrace to your frat if you're trying to justify RAPE with the code.
Quote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:48:46 PMNever snitch on a brother. Making excuses for frats and allowing rape to happen because you "never snitch on a brother"? That's a new low, even for you.
Quote from: Flee on November 20, 2014, 04:31:38 PMQuote from: PSU on November 20, 2014, 03:48:46 PMNever snitch on a brother. Making excuses for frats and allowing rape to happen because you "never snitch on a brother"? That's a new low, even for you.Even for me?Suck my dick