Earth passes 400 PPM Carbon Dioxide Threshold

Solonoid · September 30, 2016, 02:38:35 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on September 30, 2016, 10:05:05 AM

And now everyone's an environmentalist. lol

For real, 400 ppm is minuscule.

And nitrogen is 780,000 ppm in our atmosphere and is equally, if not more effective at trapping radiant heat than CO2.

Stroud · September 30, 2016, 02:53:53 PM

Quote from: Iberian Husky on September 30, 2016, 10:05:25 AM

Quote from: Mordo on September 30, 2016, 05:49:17 AM
Quote from: Iberian Husky on September 30, 2016, 02:11:45 AM
Honestly? Climate change will suck balls, but I don't think we'll actually go extinct from it. TBH, with the scientific boom we're going through right now, chances are we'll just be able to genetically modify ourselves to have gills by the time shit starts getting really bad. Personally, I think that the 21st century will see the fall of democracy. If the US is the SPQR, then this will be the century it goes full Roman Empire, which in modern terms I would assume equivocates to National Socialism. This is a very scary thought. Sure, we all like to meme about "muh hitler did nothing wrong", but it's all fun and games until these people get actual power and the Gestapo comes knocking at your door.
The fuck are you talking about.
Our democracy has become increasingly corrupt and inefficient. If things keep going the way they currently are, then people are going to get extremely fed up with it. When the normies start to go full /pol/, there's going to be hell to pay.

What does this have to do with anything?

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ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · September 30, 2016, 06:49:29 PM

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clum clum · September 30, 2016, 06:55:25 PM

Quote from: Iberian Husky on September 30, 2016, 03:32:18 PM

Quote from: Strudel on September 30, 2016, 02:53:53 PM
Quote from: Iberian Husky on September 30, 2016, 10:05:25 AM
Quote from: Mordo on September 30, 2016, 05:49:17 AM
Quote from: Iberian Husky on September 30, 2016, 02:11:45 AM
Honestly? Climate change will suck balls, but I don't think we'll actually go extinct from it. TBH, with the scientific boom we're going through right now, chances are we'll just be able to genetically modify ourselves to have gills by the time shit starts getting really bad. Personally, I think that the 21st century will see the fall of democracy. If the US is the SPQR, then this will be the century it goes full Roman Empire, which in modern terms I would assume equivocates to National Socialism. This is a very scary thought. Sure, we all like to meme about "muh hitler did nothing wrong", but it's all fun and games until these people get actual power and the Gestapo comes knocking at your door.
The fuck are you talking about.
Our democracy has become increasingly corrupt and inefficient. If things keep going the way they currently are, then people are going to get extremely fed up with it. When the normies start to go full /pol/, there's going to be hell to pay.
What does this have to do with anything?
Who gives a shit if we go extinct from Global Warming if we're going to be living in an authoritarian shithole anyway?

Super Irish · September 30, 2016, 08:19:39 PM

Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on September 30, 2016, 02:38:35 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on September 30, 2016, 10:05:05 AM
And now everyone's an environmentalist. lol
For real, 400 ppm is minuscule.

And nitrogen is 780,000 ppm in our atmosphere and is equally, if not more effective at trapping radiant heat than CO2.

That's beside the point.

The oceans and the tectonic cycle play a vital part in regulating CO2 in the atmosphere. If the CO2 ppm's rise rapidly (i.e., now), the cycle of CO2 being absorbed in the oceans, deposited in the seabed and dragged back into the mantle will be imbalanced, and is already evidenced by the coral bleaching of the seas. Unless tectonic activity increased to accomodate it, it's not going to be getting better anytime soon.

More CO2 in the atmosphere > Faster absorption rate of CO2 in the oceans > Higher concentrations of carbonic acid in the sea > coral bleaching, and a shit-ton of other detrimental effects (acid and sealife don't mix very well... unless it's already on a plate with lemon garnish).

And this is completely ignoring Methane, ~4 times as effective an insulator, and emissions are at an all time high because of the cattle industry (and, probably a lot of other things).

Spoiler

Saw my chance to spout what I learned in college, sooo yeah.

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MyNameIsCharlie · September 30, 2016, 08:42:59 PM

Well... it was a good run while it lasted. I'm sure our grandkids will be proud to know that while we could have been engineering a solution, we spent our time debating whether it was man made or not

SecondClass · October 01, 2016, 04:29:41 AM

Can someone give me the rundown about this, though? What does this mean for Earth and humans? How much longer do we have?

Also, this seems pretty catastrophic, I don't know why it's not being reported everywhere on the news.

BaconShelf · October 01, 2016, 05:14:46 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on October 01, 2016, 04:29:41 AM

Can someone give me the rundown about this, though? What does this mean for Earth and humans? How much longer do we have?

Also, this seems pretty catastrophic, I don't know why it's not being reported everywhere on the news.

Because in the immediate short term, nothing changes. Effects of climate change are gradual, not immediate. Increased temperature here, a flood there. It's not going to trigger an immediate apocalypse, and the likely scenario is that the effects will only be immediately visible when comparing now and then.

400ppm is basically the point of no return, where the effects generated are irreversable. In the long run it's just a number with no particular consequence.

If the media were reporting on it, all that would result is hysteria for a day and apocalypse predictions by idiots then everyone forgets about it once it ceases to be relevant.

Mattie G Indahouse · October 01, 2016, 06:07:36 AM

Quote from: Iberian Husky on September 30, 2016, 10:05:25 AM

Quote from: Mordo on September 30, 2016, 05:49:17 AM
Quote from: Iberian Husky on September 30, 2016, 02:11:45 AM
Honestly? Climate change will suck balls, but I don't think we'll actually go extinct from it. TBH, with the scientific boom we're going through right now, chances are we'll just be able to genetically modify ourselves to have gills by the time shit starts getting really bad. Personally, I think that the 21st century will see the fall of democracy. If the US is the SPQR, then this will be the century it goes full Roman Empire, which in modern terms I would assume equivocates to National Socialism. This is a very scary thought. Sure, we all like to meme about "muh hitler did nothing wrong", but it's all fun and games until these people get actual power and the Gestapo comes knocking at your door.
The fuck are you talking about.
Our democracy has become increasingly corrupt and inefficient. If things keep going the way they currently are, then people are going to get extremely fed up with it. When the normies start to go full /pol/, there's going to be hell to pay.

Son, when you typed both of those posts were you wearing your tinfoil hat?