Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 17, 2014, 07:55:38 AMNow watch Putin use the same approaches as Hitler did to rebirth the economy. Shit is gonna get goodRiiiiiiight. You keep thinking that. If anything drastic is going to happen, it's Putin getting ousted from government. A lot of the things the 3rd Reich did to improve the economy was destruction of all sorts of freedom. People couldn't leave their jobs and the grand majority of all jobs were war preparations. Road building/infrastructure improvement etc. is not something Putin will be able to do. Russia has roads. It has waterways. It wouldn't have been sustainable or even been done if there wasn't going to be a major war. Russia's going down the shitter fast and they're going to have to get their shit in order, and copying something the Germans did nearly a century ago is not only laughable, it's not even possible. http://www.cnbc.com/id/102275838http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/dec/16/russia-has-lost-economic-war-with-west-rouble-currency
Now watch Putin use the same approaches as Hitler did to rebirth the economy. Shit is gonna get good
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 17, 2014, 11:42:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on December 17, 2014, 08:23:13 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 17, 2014, 07:55:38 AMNow watch Putin use the same approaches as Hitler did to rebirth the economy. Shit is gonna get goodRiiiiiiight. You keep thinking that. If anything drastic is going to happen, it's Putin getting ousted from government. A lot of the things the 3rd Reich did to improve the economy was destruction of all sorts of freedom. People couldn't leave their jobs and the grand majority of all jobs were war preparations. Road building/infrastructure improvement etc. is not something Putin will be able to do. Russia has roads. It has waterways. It wouldn't have been sustainable or even been done if there wasn't going to be a major war. Russia's going down the shitter fast and they're going to have to get their shit in order, and copying something the Germans did nearly a century ago is not only laughable, it's not even possible. http://www.cnbc.com/id/102275838http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/dec/16/russia-has-lost-economic-war-with-west-rouble-currencyUh, many countries still do the same thing as it was done centuries ago. Something like economics and how you conduct business isn't something in constant change. The same ideas expressed by Locke and Smith centuries ago are the ones still being used to this day. Does that make them obsolete? hardly evenWe're not talking about ideas, we're talking about Russia in 2014 which is a totally different country with a totally different situation compared to Nazi Germany. QuoteThe Nazis HEAVILY invested in public work programs along with military conscription, which was able to bring unemployment down drastically in the course of around 5 years.Didn't say otherwise, but I mean the work that was being done which allowed for unemployed to go down was war prep. Which didn't make the country or people richer/happier, it just thought down the unemployment rate because everybody was assigned work. QuoteAnd for all we know, in order to secure itself as an economic power, Russia may be planning for war; it was crazy to think the Germans were prepping for war after WWI yet they managed to subdue Europe in just a few years. Russia is also rich with natural resources, especially in Siberia which can secure them financial dependenceI doubt it. A war would leave Russia in a far worse state. But, Putin is stupid and crazy. QuoteYes, The Nazis did diminish personal freedom with their economic plan but Russia isn't a bustling hub of freedom itself; it's rather corrupt and not a place you'd expect to live a free life. They have a better chance getting away with this than the US or any W. European nation.So because things are already bad for the Russians things should get even worse? You applaud that?QuoteBut despite German citizens being forced to their job, the government still provided a generous amount of vacation time and vehicles for the citizens and people were happy; they were happy to have a job and happy to have guaranteed time off from workThey were worked like slaves in shitty jobs they didn't want and couldn't leave. Farmers were worked half to death. QuoteCan Russia accomplish exactly what Germany did? No, but they can still do many similar things such as public works, nationalization of large corporations, government IOUs/bonds, and military conscriptionThey could get their act together and turn into a good country like America instead copying what a failed fascist state did nearly a century ago. QuoteThese sanctions only have the effect of empowering Russia to become even more self-reliableYes, the Rouble shows how empowered Russia is right now. Quoteand work to start an economic pact with many eastern European nations, Aran nations, and Asian nationsRussia already has an economic pact with these nations. Eastern European nations are dead broke and worthless, and the only important Arab country that could help Russia (Saudi Arabia) is helping America fuck Russia over by lowering their oil prices (Russia is heavily dependent on oil). You can talk shit about Obama being weak all you want, but he has effectively made Putin his bitch by playing the game right instead of talking shit and posing half naked.
Quote from: challengerX on December 17, 2014, 08:23:13 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 17, 2014, 07:55:38 AMNow watch Putin use the same approaches as Hitler did to rebirth the economy. Shit is gonna get goodRiiiiiiight. You keep thinking that. If anything drastic is going to happen, it's Putin getting ousted from government. A lot of the things the 3rd Reich did to improve the economy was destruction of all sorts of freedom. People couldn't leave their jobs and the grand majority of all jobs were war preparations. Road building/infrastructure improvement etc. is not something Putin will be able to do. Russia has roads. It has waterways. It wouldn't have been sustainable or even been done if there wasn't going to be a major war. Russia's going down the shitter fast and they're going to have to get their shit in order, and copying something the Germans did nearly a century ago is not only laughable, it's not even possible. http://www.cnbc.com/id/102275838http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/dec/16/russia-has-lost-economic-war-with-west-rouble-currencyUh, many countries still do the same thing as it was done centuries ago. Something like economics and how you conduct business isn't something in constant change. The same ideas expressed by Locke and Smith centuries ago are the ones still being used to this day. Does that make them obsolete? hardly even
The Nazis HEAVILY invested in public work programs along with military conscription, which was able to bring unemployment down drastically in the course of around 5 years.
And for all we know, in order to secure itself as an economic power, Russia may be planning for war; it was crazy to think the Germans were prepping for war after WWI yet they managed to subdue Europe in just a few years. Russia is also rich with natural resources, especially in Siberia which can secure them financial dependence
Yes, The Nazis did diminish personal freedom with their economic plan but Russia isn't a bustling hub of freedom itself; it's rather corrupt and not a place you'd expect to live a free life. They have a better chance getting away with this than the US or any W. European nation.
But despite German citizens being forced to their job, the government still provided a generous amount of vacation time and vehicles for the citizens and people were happy; they were happy to have a job and happy to have guaranteed time off from work
Can Russia accomplish exactly what Germany did? No, but they can still do many similar things such as public works, nationalization of large corporations, government IOUs/bonds, and military conscription
These sanctions only have the effect of empowering Russia to become even more self-reliable
and work to start an economic pact with many eastern European nations, Aran nations, and Asian nations