President-elect Donald Trump raged at anchors and executives from America’s five largest television networks during an off-the-record meeting Monday, according to a new report.Two sources described the hour-long meeting at New York City’s Trump Tower in catastrophic terms to The New York Post.“It was like a f—ing firing squad,” one source said of the meeting. "Trump started with [CNN President] Jeff Zucker and said, ‘I hate your network, everyone at CNN is a liar and you should be ashamed.’"“The meeting was a total disaster. The TV execs and anchors went in there thinking they would be discussing the access they would get to the Trump administration, but instead they got a Trump-style dressing down.”The Post’s second source said the meeting included 30 to 40 people, and said Trump also took aim at ABC and NBC.“Trump kept saying, ‘We’re in a room full of liars, the deceitful dishonest media who got it all wrong,'" the source said. "He addressed everyone in the room calling the media dishonest, deceitful liars. Trump didn’t say [NBC reporter] Katy Tur by name, but talked about a female correspondent who got it wrong.“Then he referred to a horrible network correspondent who cried when [Democratic presidential nominee] Hillary [Clinton] lost [and] who hosted a debate — which was [ABC’s] Martha Raddatz, who was also in the room.”Top Trump aide Kellyanne Conway disputed the New York Post story."No, that's not true at all," she said on Bloomberg Politics' 'With All Due Respect." "I sat right to his left. He did not explode in anger. By the way, it's an off-the-record meeting so whoever said that and mischaracterized it should think twice."Monday’s meeting was attended by ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox News and CNN, as well as MSNBC, NBC’s cable news arm.The meeting was arranged by Conway, who served as Trump’s campaign manager for the final few months of the White House race. The conversation was deemed off-the-record, meaning the participants agreed not to publicly discuss its contents.Trump regularly attacked the media throughout his campaign, calling it “corrupt” and labeling reporters as “outright liars.”The billionaire has not yet held a press conference as president-elect, a longstanding tradition for America’s new leaders.
Reportedly.I have a lot of trouble believing anything that comes from these people lately.
President-elect Donald Trump on Monday told a group of about 25 television executives and anchors that he wants a “cordial” and “productive” relationship with the media, according to one source in the room, but he still aired some grievances during the off-the-record gathering in Trump Tower.The source said the meeting started with a typical Trump complaint about the “dishonest media,” and that he specifically singled out CNN and NBC News for example as “the worst.”He also complained about photos of himself that NBC used that he found unflattering, the source said.Trump turned to NBC News President Deborah Turness at one point, the source said, and told her the network won’t run a nice picture of him, instead choosing “this picture of me,” as he made a face with a double chin. Turness replied that they had a “very nice” picture of him on their website at the moment.
Quote from: Icy on November 22, 2016, 10:18:31 AMQuote from: Mr Deplorable on November 22, 2016, 10:12:35 AMReportedly.I have a lot of trouble believing anything that comes from these people lately.In fairness, a separate source for Politico paints a different imageQuotePresident-elect Donald Trump on Monday told a group of about 25 television executives and anchors that he wants a “cordial” and “productive” relationship with the media, according to one source in the room, but he still aired some grievances during the off-the-record gathering in Trump Tower.The source said the meeting started with a typical Trump complaint about the “dishonest media,” and that he specifically singled out CNN and NBC News for example as “the worst.”He also complained about photos of himself that NBC used that he found unflattering, the source said.Trump turned to NBC News President Deborah Turness at one point, the source said, and told her the network won’t run a nice picture of him, instead choosing “this picture of me,” as he made a face with a double chin. Turness replied that they had a “very nice” picture of him on their website at the moment.This adversarial relationship is worrying.
Quote from: Mr Deplorable on November 22, 2016, 10:12:35 AMReportedly.I have a lot of trouble believing anything that comes from these people lately.In fairness, a separate source for Politico paints a different imageQuotePresident-elect Donald Trump on Monday told a group of about 25 television executives and anchors that he wants a “cordial” and “productive” relationship with the media, according to one source in the room, but he still aired some grievances during the off-the-record gathering in Trump Tower.The source said the meeting started with a typical Trump complaint about the “dishonest media,” and that he specifically singled out CNN and NBC News for example as “the worst.”He also complained about photos of himself that NBC used that he found unflattering, the source said.Trump turned to NBC News President Deborah Turness at one point, the source said, and told her the network won’t run a nice picture of him, instead choosing “this picture of me,” as he made a face with a double chin. Turness replied that they had a “very nice” picture of him on their website at the moment.
Quote from: Icy on November 22, 2016, 10:23:57 AMQuote from: Mr Deplorable on November 22, 2016, 10:22:54 AMQuote from: Icy on November 22, 2016, 10:18:31 AMQuote from: Mr Deplorable on November 22, 2016, 10:12:35 AMReportedly.I have a lot of trouble believing anything that comes from these people lately.In fairness, a separate source for Politico paints a different imageQuotePresident-elect Donald Trump on Monday told a group of about 25 television executives and anchors that he wants a “cordial” and “productive” relationship with the media, according to one source in the room, but he still aired some grievances during the off-the-record gathering in Trump Tower.The source said the meeting started with a typical Trump complaint about the “dishonest media,” and that he specifically singled out CNN and NBC News for example as “the worst.”He also complained about photos of himself that NBC used that he found unflattering, the source said.Trump turned to NBC News President Deborah Turness at one point, the source said, and told her the network won’t run a nice picture of him, instead choosing “this picture of me,” as he made a face with a double chin. Turness replied that they had a “very nice” picture of him on their website at the moment.This adversarial relationship is worrying.How so?It's generally assumed that a free press will (or should) keep the general public informed about the activities of the state in a nonpartisan manner. It's one thing to have large segments of the population distrust the press (and we already have that), but having an openly adversarial relationship between major media outlets and our federal government is bizarre. I don't really know what to expect. Having press outlets that shill for the government like BBC or RT is one thing, because you can dismiss a lot as propaganda. But when you have a press and a state that shit on each other, where do normies go to find out who to trust?I myself have little faith in our supposedly independent media, but I feel fairly well-informed through the various networks and boards I frequent. What about people who don't have that, though? It doesn't bode well.
Quote from: Mr Deplorable on November 22, 2016, 10:22:54 AMQuote from: Icy on November 22, 2016, 10:18:31 AMQuote from: Mr Deplorable on November 22, 2016, 10:12:35 AMReportedly.I have a lot of trouble believing anything that comes from these people lately.In fairness, a separate source for Politico paints a different imageQuotePresident-elect Donald Trump on Monday told a group of about 25 television executives and anchors that he wants a “cordial” and “productive” relationship with the media, according to one source in the room, but he still aired some grievances during the off-the-record gathering in Trump Tower.The source said the meeting started with a typical Trump complaint about the “dishonest media,” and that he specifically singled out CNN and NBC News for example as “the worst.”He also complained about photos of himself that NBC used that he found unflattering, the source said.Trump turned to NBC News President Deborah Turness at one point, the source said, and told her the network won’t run a nice picture of him, instead choosing “this picture of me,” as he made a face with a double chin. Turness replied that they had a “very nice” picture of him on their website at the moment.This adversarial relationship is worrying.How so?
Quote from: Icy on November 22, 2016, 10:45:45 AMQuote from: Mr Deplorable on November 22, 2016, 10:35:01 AMQuote from: Icy on November 22, 2016, 10:23:57 AMQuote from: Mr Deplorable on November 22, 2016, 10:22:54 AMQuote from: Icy on November 22, 2016, 10:18:31 AMQuote from: Mr Deplorable on November 22, 2016, 10:12:35 AMReportedly.I have a lot of trouble believing anything that comes from these people lately.In fairness, a separate source for Politico paints a different imageQuotePresident-elect Donald Trump on Monday told a group of about 25 television executives and anchors that he wants a “cordial” and “productive” relationship with the media, according to one source in the room, but he still aired some grievances during the off-the-record gathering in Trump Tower.The source said the meeting started with a typical Trump complaint about the “dishonest media,” and that he specifically singled out CNN and NBC News for example as “the worst.”He also complained about photos of himself that NBC used that he found unflattering, the source said.Trump turned to NBC News President Deborah Turness at one point, the source said, and told her the network won’t run a nice picture of him, instead choosing “this picture of me,” as he made a face with a double chin. Turness replied that they had a “very nice” picture of him on their website at the moment.This adversarial relationship is worrying.How so?It's generally assumed that a free press will (or should) keep the general public informed about the activities of the state in a nonpartisan manner. It's one thing to have large segments of the population distrust the press (and we already have that), but having an openly adversarial relationship between major media outlets and our federal government is bizarre. I don't really know what to expect. Having press outlets that shill for the government like BBC or RT is one thing, because you can dismiss a lot as propaganda. But when you have a press and a state that shit on each other, where do normies go to find out who to trust?I myself have little faith in our supposedly independent media, but I feel fairly well-informed through the various networks and boards I frequent. What about people who don't have that, though? It doesn't bode well.The thing that a lot of people don't understand, and this goes for both liberals and conservatives, is that negative coverage is not biased coverage. That also pairs with people generally relying on one or two sources of media to get their news; Fox News and Breitbart are (arguably) as accurate and biased as CNN and MSNBC - but because they run positive stories on their audience's preferred candidate and bash the other side, conservatives view them as more fair and truthful. Americans (and I include myself in this to a degree after this election with polling) have put themselves into an echo chamber where you hear people you agree with, support that view, and denounce anyone else as unfair, liars, biased. It's not solely the fault of the media for this - people just do not conduct critical thinking and research in a world of instant news 24/7.That being said, I do find myself in agreement with a lot of critics that the media overfocused on a number of trivial issues.Do you see this changing or do you think the situation will deteriorate further?
Quote from: Mr Deplorable on November 22, 2016, 10:35:01 AMQuote from: Icy on November 22, 2016, 10:23:57 AMQuote from: Mr Deplorable on November 22, 2016, 10:22:54 AMQuote from: Icy on November 22, 2016, 10:18:31 AMQuote from: Mr Deplorable on November 22, 2016, 10:12:35 AMReportedly.I have a lot of trouble believing anything that comes from these people lately.In fairness, a separate source for Politico paints a different imageQuotePresident-elect Donald Trump on Monday told a group of about 25 television executives and anchors that he wants a “cordial” and “productive” relationship with the media, according to one source in the room, but he still aired some grievances during the off-the-record gathering in Trump Tower.The source said the meeting started with a typical Trump complaint about the “dishonest media,” and that he specifically singled out CNN and NBC News for example as “the worst.”He also complained about photos of himself that NBC used that he found unflattering, the source said.Trump turned to NBC News President Deborah Turness at one point, the source said, and told her the network won’t run a nice picture of him, instead choosing “this picture of me,” as he made a face with a double chin. Turness replied that they had a “very nice” picture of him on their website at the moment.This adversarial relationship is worrying.How so?It's generally assumed that a free press will (or should) keep the general public informed about the activities of the state in a nonpartisan manner. It's one thing to have large segments of the population distrust the press (and we already have that), but having an openly adversarial relationship between major media outlets and our federal government is bizarre. I don't really know what to expect. Having press outlets that shill for the government like BBC or RT is one thing, because you can dismiss a lot as propaganda. But when you have a press and a state that shit on each other, where do normies go to find out who to trust?I myself have little faith in our supposedly independent media, but I feel fairly well-informed through the various networks and boards I frequent. What about people who don't have that, though? It doesn't bode well.The thing that a lot of people don't understand, and this goes for both liberals and conservatives, is that negative coverage is not biased coverage. That also pairs with people generally relying on one or two sources of media to get their news; Fox News and Breitbart are (arguably) as accurate and biased as CNN and MSNBC - but because they run positive stories on their audience's preferred candidate and bash the other side, conservatives view them as more fair and truthful. Americans (and I include myself in this to a degree after this election with polling) have put themselves into an echo chamber where you hear people you agree with, support that view, and denounce anyone else as unfair, liars, biased. It's not solely the fault of the media for this - people just do not conduct critical thinking and research in a world of instant news 24/7.That being said, I do find myself in agreement with a lot of critics that the media overfocused on a number of trivial issues.
>media shits on trump so badly
Quote from: Hargbeast on November 23, 2016, 12:51:31 PM>media shits on trump so badly I wasn't aware it was the media's job to be an echo chamber of positivity.
Quote from: Icy on November 23, 2016, 12:58:06 PMQuote from: Hargbeast on November 23, 2016, 12:51:31 PM>media shits on trump so badly I wasn't aware it was the media's job to be an echo chamber of positivity.I never said that.There's a difference between being a positive echo chamber, being semi-objective with good and bad, and being openly hostile. If you do the last, expect retaliation.
Quote from: Hargbeast on November 23, 2016, 01:05:34 PMQuote from: Icy on November 23, 2016, 12:58:06 PMQuote from: Hargbeast on November 23, 2016, 12:51:31 PM>media shits on trump so badly I wasn't aware it was the media's job to be an echo chamber of positivity.I never said that.There's a difference between being a positive echo chamber, being semi-objective with good and bad, and being openly hostile. If you do the last, expect retaliation.And for most candidates, media organization coverage fall in the wide spectrum of semi-objective (that wide spectrum encompassing both ends of the political spectrum).But are you generally surprised that media organizations, which are businesses as much as a public necessity, are going to be hostile to a candidate who denounces many of their existence, insults their reporters and openly picks fights?
Report: Trump Meeting with News Executives doesn't go well
