Quote from: eggsalad on October 08, 2015, 10:51:47 AMConsidering Columbus Day already is nothing but a "discuss how white settlers fucked everything up" day, might as well. Same thing, different name.We fucked up a bunch of savages that weren't going to ever advance or do anything with this land?
Considering Columbus Day already is nothing but a "discuss how white settlers fucked everything up" day, might as well. Same thing, different name.
Quote from: eggsalad on October 08, 2015, 10:59:12 AMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 10:54:32 AMQuote from: eggsalad on October 08, 2015, 10:51:47 AMConsidering Columbus Day already is nothing but a "discuss how white settlers fucked everything up" day, might as well. Same thing, different name.We fucked up a bunch of savages that weren't going to ever advance or do anything with this land?Well, yes the Natives weren't exemplars of innocence themselves but genocide isn't exactly the solution.Sure there were less harsh ways to go about itI just really hate the pity parade circle jerk for Native Americans
Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 10:54:32 AMQuote from: eggsalad on October 08, 2015, 10:51:47 AMConsidering Columbus Day already is nothing but a "discuss how white settlers fucked everything up" day, might as well. Same thing, different name.We fucked up a bunch of savages that weren't going to ever advance or do anything with this land?Well, yes the Natives weren't exemplars of innocence themselves but genocide isn't exactly the solution.
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 08, 2015, 11:10:30 AMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 11:02:12 AMQuote from: eggsalad on October 08, 2015, 10:59:12 AMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 10:54:32 AMQuote from: eggsalad on October 08, 2015, 10:51:47 AMConsidering Columbus Day already is nothing but a "discuss how white settlers fucked everything up" day, might as well. Same thing, different name.We fucked up a bunch of savages that weren't going to ever advance or do anything with this land?Well, yes the Natives weren't exemplars of innocence themselves but genocide isn't exactly the solution.Sure there were less harsh ways to go about itI just really hate the pity parade circle jerk for Native AmericansPity parade circle jerk?By ending the celebration over their genocide?you act like they're so innocent, they're notalso Columbus Day is not a celebration of their genocide, you can take it out of context and misconstrue it all you want it but it isn't
Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 11:02:12 AMQuote from: eggsalad on October 08, 2015, 10:59:12 AMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 10:54:32 AMQuote from: eggsalad on October 08, 2015, 10:51:47 AMConsidering Columbus Day already is nothing but a "discuss how white settlers fucked everything up" day, might as well. Same thing, different name.We fucked up a bunch of savages that weren't going to ever advance or do anything with this land?Well, yes the Natives weren't exemplars of innocence themselves but genocide isn't exactly the solution.Sure there were less harsh ways to go about itI just really hate the pity parade circle jerk for Native AmericansPity parade circle jerk?By ending the celebration over their genocide?
Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 11:12:16 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 08, 2015, 11:10:30 AMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 11:02:12 AMQuote from: eggsalad on October 08, 2015, 10:59:12 AMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 10:54:32 AMQuote from: eggsalad on October 08, 2015, 10:51:47 AMConsidering Columbus Day already is nothing but a "discuss how white settlers fucked everything up" day, might as well. Same thing, different name.We fucked up a bunch of savages that weren't going to ever advance or do anything with this land?Well, yes the Natives weren't exemplars of innocence themselves but genocide isn't exactly the solution.Sure there were less harsh ways to go about itI just really hate the pity parade circle jerk for Native AmericansPity parade circle jerk?By ending the celebration over their genocide?you act like they're so innocent, they're notalso Columbus Day is not a celebration of their genocide, you can take it out of context and misconstrue it all you want it but it isn'tBut it is. It's celebrating the "discovery" of the Americas.
Quote from: Azumarill on October 08, 2015, 11:34:25 AMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 10:54:32 AMQuote from: eggsalad on October 08, 2015, 10:51:47 AMConsidering Columbus Day already is nothing but a "discuss how white settlers fucked everything up" day, might as well. Same thing, different name.We fucked up a bunch of savages that weren't going to ever advance or do anything with this land?See, this is the kind of ridiculous, unsubstantiated, racist bullshit that needs to be dealt with on this board. Try reading a fucking book sometime. Here's a graphic representing Tenochtitlan- the capital of the Aztec empire in modern Mexico City. Tenochtitlan was a sprawling metropolis home to somewhere between 200,000 and 300,000 people when the Spanish arrived. SpoilerThe Natives had a complex understanding of agriculture. You know corn doesn't exist naturally? Native groups figured out how to fucking make it. And they figured out a great way to grow it with other significant foods and hit a nutrition sweet spot.There's just... Jesus Christ dude, when was the last time you even tried to learn about Native Americans? How can you seriously say something like that?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_Moundhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocmulgee_National_Monumenthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Sisters_(agriculture)http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/tserve/nattrans/ntecoindian/essays/indimage.htmhttp://www.native-languages.org/iaq14.htmhttp://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Cahokia-Mississippians-Studies-Societies/dp/0521520665https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/firsting-and-lastingi'm talking about the US Native Americans. I'm not going to deny any kind of racism, growing up around them and seeing how shitty of people they are has given me a certain hatred for them.
Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 10:54:32 AMQuote from: eggsalad on October 08, 2015, 10:51:47 AMConsidering Columbus Day already is nothing but a "discuss how white settlers fucked everything up" day, might as well. Same thing, different name.We fucked up a bunch of savages that weren't going to ever advance or do anything with this land?See, this is the kind of ridiculous, unsubstantiated, racist bullshit that needs to be dealt with on this board. Try reading a fucking book sometime. Here's a graphic representing Tenochtitlan- the capital of the Aztec empire in modern Mexico City. Tenochtitlan was a sprawling metropolis home to somewhere between 200,000 and 300,000 people when the Spanish arrived. SpoilerThe Natives had a complex understanding of agriculture. You know corn doesn't exist naturally? Native groups figured out how to fucking make it. And they figured out a great way to grow it with other significant foods and hit a nutrition sweet spot.There's just... Jesus Christ dude, when was the last time you even tried to learn about Native Americans? How can you seriously say something like that?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_Moundhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocmulgee_National_Monumenthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Sisters_(agriculture)http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/tserve/nattrans/ntecoindian/essays/indimage.htmhttp://www.native-languages.org/iaq14.htmhttp://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Cahokia-Mississippians-Studies-Societies/dp/0521520665https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/firsting-and-lasting
Cuckoldry: The Thread.Anyway Colombus wasn't even the first Euro to land in the Americas. That was basef Leif Erikson.
I just really hate the pity parade circle jerk for Native Americans
Quote from: Luciana on October 08, 2015, 12:57:23 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 11:02:12 AMI just really hate the pity parade circle jerk for Native AmericansConsidering based Andrew Jackson (Trail of Tears, and who for some reason is on the $20 bill when he hated the National Bank. Talk about irony) and "Manifest Destiny" were two things that essentially drove the Natives away and slaughtered them? Yeah I think it's pretty bad. They honestly DESERVE some pity, and while I'm not here going "it's da white mans fault now! Be ashamed!!!", I think we should all be aware of the tragedies and misdeeds our ancestors did.It's really crazy how we basically almost wiped an entire culture off the face of the map by killing, and forcefully relocating them. There is no positive spin on it by saying "well we culturally uplifted them" or "they weren't going places anyway".who's this we motherfuckerWere you there? Did you participate?
Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 11:02:12 AMI just really hate the pity parade circle jerk for Native AmericansConsidering based Andrew Jackson (Trail of Tears, and who for some reason is on the $20 bill when he hated the National Bank. Talk about irony) and "Manifest Destiny" were two things that essentially drove the Natives away and slaughtered them? Yeah I think it's pretty bad. They honestly DESERVE some pity, and while I'm not here going "it's da white mans fault now! Be ashamed!!!", I think we should all be aware of the tragedies and misdeeds our ancestors did.It's really crazy how we basically almost wiped an entire culture off the face of the map by killing, and forcefully relocating them. There is no positive spin on it by saying "well we culturally uplifted them" or "they weren't going places anyway".
Replace Columbus Day with Indigenous People Day?
