Quote from: Desty on December 25, 2015, 12:44:43 PMQuestion 27 doesn't make sense. Why should convicts not be allowed to vote?The main idea behind felony disenfranchisement is that elections relate exclusively to what goes on in society. People in prison are effectively outside of the workings of a normal society and giving them a say in its governance would therefore not make sense or could skew results as politicians may directly target these groups with promises to change the system for their benefit. Additionally, some see it as an extra punishment or, from a practical perspective, find that people imprisoned for long periods of time have lost touch with society and are ignorant of current events or incapable to properly voice an opinion on them. There's plenty of countries that prevent a lot of its prisoners from voting, most notably the US and the UK. The UK's about to get rid of its blanket ban thanks to the ECJ and ECtHR, though, so that's great news.
Question 27 doesn't make sense. Why should convicts not be allowed to vote?
Quote from: M8A-ORD on December 25, 2015, 03:07:46 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 25, 2015, 02:51:39 PMI refuse to believe those results.I picked all the stuff a republican would pick. Know your enemy as they say.
Quote from: challengerX on December 25, 2015, 02:51:39 PMI refuse to believe those results.
Quote from: Prime Megaten on December 25, 2015, 01:15:52 PMQuote from: Desty on December 25, 2015, 01:04:56 PMQuote from: Prime Megaten on December 25, 2015, 12:49:04 PMQuote from: Desty on December 25, 2015, 12:44:43 PMQuestion 27 doesn't make sense. Why should convicts not be allowed to vote?Look up felony disenfranchisement.No, I already know that it's a tradition. I'm asking what sense it makes to worsen the living conditions of people who have committed crimes. I'm not a fan of punishment, unless it can be done without affecting a person's life.It's not exactly "tradition", it's a form of voter restriction.The only thing I can come up with is that people who have spent 10+ years in prison are going to be largely ignorant to the issues of today, thus opening another market for voter manipulation. Even then, that's shaky at best.I still think it's a tradition definition of tradition1a : an inherited, established, or customary pattern of thought, action, or behavior (as a religious practice or a social custom)b : a belief or story or a body of beliefs or stories relating to the past that are commonly accepted as historical though not verifiable2: the handing down of information, beliefs, and customs by word of mouth or by example from one generation to another without written instruction3: cultural continuity in social attitudes, customs, and institutionsbut the fact that you wrote that it's a voter restriction, which is what it literally is, gives me the feeling that you want to convey another message. The logical thing is to assume that you want to emphasize the importance of this rule, but then with your explanation you even remark at how it's "shaky at best". The second thing to assume is that you want clear hard facts, and no in-betweens. Even though I may think that it's classified as a tradition, by definition, it's a voter restriction.If it's the second thing, then I'll leave it at that, but if there's something you want me to know that I've not understood, then please do explain. The reason for my confusion is because then in the second paragraph, you purposefully give me a shady explanation.
Quote from: Desty on December 25, 2015, 01:04:56 PMQuote from: Prime Megaten on December 25, 2015, 12:49:04 PMQuote from: Desty on December 25, 2015, 12:44:43 PMQuestion 27 doesn't make sense. Why should convicts not be allowed to vote?Look up felony disenfranchisement.No, I already know that it's a tradition. I'm asking what sense it makes to worsen the living conditions of people who have committed crimes. I'm not a fan of punishment, unless it can be done without affecting a person's life.It's not exactly "tradition", it's a form of voter restriction.The only thing I can come up with is that people who have spent 10+ years in prison are going to be largely ignorant to the issues of today, thus opening another market for voter manipulation. Even then, that's shaky at best.
Quote from: Prime Megaten on December 25, 2015, 12:49:04 PMQuote from: Desty on December 25, 2015, 12:44:43 PMQuestion 27 doesn't make sense. Why should convicts not be allowed to vote?Look up felony disenfranchisement.No, I already know that it's a tradition. I'm asking what sense it makes to worsen the living conditions of people who have committed crimes. I'm not a fan of punishment, unless it can be done without affecting a person's life.
Quote from: Desty on December 25, 2015, 12:44:43 PMQuestion 27 doesn't make sense. Why should convicts not be allowed to vote?Look up felony disenfranchisement.
Democracy is retarded enough already, why would you allow the most retarded and violent demographic to help steer the state?Christ, progressives are stupid.
Also, is playing the devil's advocate a popular thing around here, or am I just getting this treatment?