Piracy is not really a crime

 
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On top of all that, emulating games means I have to play it on a PC.

And playing games on a PC is just the worst shit in the world.
consoles use emulators to run older titles too.
Yeah, and that's how I'm playing Pokémon Silver.

but i don't know what your point is
that you don't have to be on a pc to emulate games
But that's the cheapest and most common way, so I don't really care about anything else. It's irrelevant.


 
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There's nothing wrong with emulating old games
Yes there is, especially if they were just rereleased (like Pokémon Gold/Silver).
Why should you buy the remaster (or whatever this is I don't care about Pokémon) instead of emulating it?
Because then you'd be a thief and a bad person. You're not supporting the company that produced the game, and you no longer have the excuse of "it's an old game that they're not profiting from anymore."
But they're just rehashing an old game. I don't really see how they deserve the money that badly.
They're not just rehashing an old game. They're putting it on a modern device with newer and more reliable technology that's less likely to fail on you. The games I'm talking about are so old, they were on these big cartridges that had little batteries inside of them that are only designed to last a few years before they burn out. Once it burns out, you can no longer save your game anymore and it's basically just worthless.

Replacing these batteries is expensive and dangerous, because it requires you to know how to use a soldering iron if you want to do the job right, and even if you still have a working battery, it's gonna die again eventually and there's no way to transfer your Pokémon to newer generations like you can with every subsequent game. Gold/Silver were the only generation of Pokémon games up until now that didn't let you do that, because there wasn't a way to connect a Game Boy to a Game Boy Advance.

Re-releasing the games on 3DS solves all of these problems.

They're also only $10 and if you can't spare that much for such an excellent game, you're really just a pathetic waste of skin.
So after paying for the game and being boned by substandard technology, you're gonna buy it again? Why not emulate it?
Not "substandard" technology, outdated technology.

Because it's a fucking amazing game that Game Freak deserves billions of dollars for making.

I'd buy both versions 30 more times.

I don't emulate games ever because I'm not a piece of shit.
Seems like a lot of fanboying tbb. It's substandard technology to have it run on batteries that aren't easily replaceable.
Not if they last nearly a decade. People weren't even 100% sure video games would still be around in that long.

I know you're slightly stupid, but come on.
Last Edit: September 23, 2017, 02:08:06 PM by Verbatim


 
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On top of all that, emulating games means I have to play it on a PC.

And playing games on a PC is just the worst shit in the world.
consoles use emulators to run older titles too.
Yeah, and that's how I'm playing Pokémon Silver.

but i don't know what your point is
that you don't have to be on a pc to emulate games
But that's the cheapest and most common way, so I don't really care about anything else. It's irrelevant.

emulation on a pc is definitely cheaper, but i don't know if it's the most common. i don't think most normies even know about third party emulation so i'd imagine that console emulation is more heavily used at the moment. especially since MS is doing a big BC push for xbox right now and advertising the fthe fact that you can play a bunch of your old games on the new machine and have them run better.


 
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There's nothing wrong with emulating old games
Yes there is, especially if they were just rereleased (like Pokémon Gold/Silver).
Why should you buy the remaster (or whatever this is I don't care about Pokémon) instead of emulating it?
Because then you'd be a thief and a bad person. You're not supporting the company that produced the game, and you no longer have the excuse of "it's an old game that they're not profiting from anymore."
But they're just rehashing an old game. I don't really see how they deserve the money that badly.
They're not just rehashing an old game. They're putting it on a modern device with newer and more reliable technology that's less likely to fail on you. The games I'm talking about are so old, they were on these big cartridges that had little batteries inside of them that are only designed to last a few years before they burn out. Once it burns out, you can no longer save your game anymore and it's basically just worthless.

Replacing these batteries is expensive and dangerous, because it requires you to know how to use a soldering iron if you want to do the job right, and even if you still have a working battery, it's gonna die again eventually and there's no way to transfer your Pokémon to newer generations like you can with every subsequent game. Gold/Silver were the only generation of Pokémon games up until now that didn't let you do that, because there wasn't a way to connect a Game Boy to a Game Boy Advance.

Re-releasing the games on 3DS solves all of these problems.

They're also only $10 and if you can't spare that much for such an excellent game, you're really just a pathetic waste of skin.
So after paying for the game and being boned by substandard technology, you're gonna buy it again? Why not emulate it?
Not "substandard" technology, outdated technology.

Because it's a fucking amazing game that Game Freak deserves billions of dollars for making.

I'd buy both versions 30 more times.

I don't emulate games ever because I'm not a piece of shit.
Seems like a lot of fanboying tbb. It's substandard technology to have it run on batteries that aren't easily replaceable.
Not if they last nearly a decade. People weren't even 100% sure video games would still be around in that long.

I know you're slightly stupid, but come on.
And EVEN THEN, you're just helping my point.

Even if I admitted it was shitty technology (completely ignoring the time period), that's all the more reason to purchase the game on a device that has vastly improved technology that's sure to last several decades, if not longer.

It was a $50 game in 2000, and it's $10 now. It probably should be $5 or $6, but honestly, the game is so damn good I would've paid $50 again for it. I'll proudly pay $50 to relive some of my best childhood memories while supporting one of my favorite developers.
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Ok, but what's the point of the argument? You can't decriminalize piracy, as then everyone would go to the free versions. The positive effects of piracy only exist when there's a deterrent for the general population.


 
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There's nothing wrong with emulating old games
Yes there is, especially if they were just rereleased (like Pokémon Gold/Silver).
Why should you buy the remaster (or whatever this is I don't care about Pokémon) instead of emulating it?
Because then you'd be a thief and a bad person. You're not supporting the company that produced the game, and you no longer have the excuse of "it's an old game that they're not profiting from anymore."
But they're just rehashing an old game. I don't really see how they deserve the money that badly.
They're not just rehashing an old game. They're putting it on a modern device with newer and more reliable technology that's less likely to fail on you. The games I'm talking about are so old, they were on these big cartridges that had little batteries inside of them that are only designed to last a few years before they burn out. Once it burns out, you can no longer save your game anymore and it's basically just worthless.

Replacing these batteries is expensive and dangerous, because it requires you to know how to use a soldering iron if you want to do the job right, and even if you still have a working battery, it's gonna die again eventually and there's no way to transfer your Pokémon to newer generations like you can with every subsequent game. Gold/Silver were the only generation of Pokémon games up until now that didn't let you do that, because there wasn't a way to connect a Game Boy to a Game Boy Advance.

Re-releasing the games on 3DS solves all of these problems.

They're also only $10 and if you can't spare that much for such an excellent game, you're really just a pathetic waste of skin.
So after paying for the game and being boned by substandard technology, you're gonna buy it again? Why not emulate it?
Not "substandard" technology, outdated technology.

Because it's a fucking amazing game that Game Freak deserves billions of dollars for making.

I'd buy both versions 30 more times.

I don't emulate games ever because I'm not a piece of shit.
Seems like a lot of fanboying tbb. It's substandard technology to have it run on batteries that aren't easily replaceable.
Not if they last nearly a decade. People weren't even 100% sure video games would still be around in that long.

I know you're slightly stupid, but come on.
So they planned for failure and the industry collapsing within a decade?
Welcome to reality.

And yes, they do deserve money. I'll buy 100 copies every day.


 
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There's nothing wrong with emulating old games
Yes there is, especially if they were just rereleased (like Pokémon Gold/Silver).
Why should you buy the remaster (or whatever this is I don't care about Pokémon) instead of emulating it?
Because then you'd be a thief and a bad person. You're not supporting the company that produced the game, and you no longer have the excuse of "it's an old game that they're not profiting from anymore."
But they're just rehashing an old game. I don't really see how they deserve the money that badly.
They're not just rehashing an old game. They're putting it on a modern device with newer and more reliable technology that's less likely to fail on you. The games I'm talking about are so old, they were on these big cartridges that had little batteries inside of them that are only designed to last a few years before they burn out. Once it burns out, you can no longer save your game anymore and it's basically just worthless.

Replacing these batteries is expensive and dangerous, because it requires you to know how to use a soldering iron if you want to do the job right, and even if you still have a working battery, it's gonna die again eventually and there's no way to transfer your Pokémon to newer generations like you can with every subsequent game. Gold/Silver were the only generation of Pokémon games up until now that didn't let you do that, because there wasn't a way to connect a Game Boy to a Game Boy Advance.

Re-releasing the games on 3DS solves all of these problems.

They're also only $10 and if you can't spare that much for such an excellent game, you're really just a pathetic waste of skin.
So after paying for the game and being boned by substandard technology, you're gonna buy it again? Why not emulate it?
Not "substandard" technology, outdated technology.

Because it's a fucking amazing game that Game Freak deserves billions of dollars for making.

I'd buy both versions 30 more times.

I don't emulate games ever because I'm not a piece of shit.
Seems like a lot of fanboying tbb. It's substandard technology to have it run on batteries that aren't easily replaceable.
Not if they last nearly a decade. People weren't even 100% sure video games would still be around in that long.

I know you're slightly stupid, but come on.
So they planned for failure and the industry collapsing within a decade?
Welcome to reality.

And yes, they do deserve money. I'll buy 100 copies every day.
But the video game industry is thriving and my Sega Dreamcast and all my old games still work perfectly.
woah and y2k didn't happen to

sometimes people are wrong

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The angel agreed to trade a set of white wings for the head of another demon. Overjoyed, the demon killed one of his own and plucked the head right off its still-warm body.

The angel then led the demon to heaven, where he underwent centuries of the cruelest tortures imaginable. Finally, the pain was so great that he lost consciousness - at which point his dark wings turned the promised shade of white.
Wouldnt this be a good thing though, so that piracy doesnt outweigh sales


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>stealing pocket change from a billion dollar company is immoral


 
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>stealing pocket change from a billion dollar company is immoral
Yes.


 
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yknow for my money i think barbosa is probably the best pirate in the series


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Piracy is bad, but bad business practice is worse. If paid service is no better than free service and if mechanisms of supporting a developer/artist/musician in paid services are unclear, then people have no motivation to spend money.


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Wouldnt this be a good thing though, so that piracy doesnt outweigh sales
It is possible in future, when developement of blockchain will reach it`s peek


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>stealing pocket change from a billion dollar company is immoral
Yes.
I disagree.


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The paper states there's a 40% loss in sales for blockbuster films...that's pretty fucking huge, and arguably a source of cinema as a dying medium bloated with massive budgets for shitty reboots/sequels/licensed films, with ticket costs doubling in the past two decades.

I really just struggle to see how you can look at any pirating community, where a typical member has hundreds or thousands of pirated films, games, albums, etc., and not come to the conclusion that sales were lost from those downloads. This isn't a case of someone not purchasing luxury goods outside of their disposable income -- media like this is literally designed to be widely marketable, even to poor people. 



 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
>buy a 20 dollar movie ticket with smallest popcorn available
or
>wait until movie comes out on dvd and overpay for a disk that I'll own forever and watch once
or
>buy a 20 dollar case a beer and find movies on some shady Russian streaming site

Get fucked, Hollywood.


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The paper states there's a 40% loss in sales for blockbuster films...that's pretty fucking huge, and arguably a source of cinema as a dying medium bloated with massive budgets for shitty reboots/sequels/licensed films, with ticket costs doubling in the past two decades.

I really just struggle to see how you can look at any pirating community, where a typical member has hundreds or thousands of pirated films, games, albums, etc., and not come to the conclusion that sales were lost from those downloads. This isn't a case of someone not purchasing luxury goods outside of their disposable income -- media like this is literally designed to be widely marketable, even to poor people.
I don't see how shitty reboots and sequels have anything to with piracy. I also don't see how $20 a ticket is widely marketable "even to poor people".

Piracy leads to 40% loss in blockbuster tickets sold —> studios produce safer films that are more guaranteed to sell tickets like reboots and sequels. Not sure where you can find a $20 ticket; even decent theaters in NY are under that, and theaters aren't the only way to consume film. If this and similar studies are to be believed, pirates typically pay more for media than non-pirates...so if you're justifying piracy because people can't afford media, then they'd probably save more money not pirating.

Also, I've pirated a ton and I don't oppose it. I'm just saying it's pretty dumb to headline that piracy doesn't affect sales when there's a demonstrable 40% loss in ticket sales.
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I don't have a problem with it. If a game is good I will buy it.


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If you know, you know.
So piracy increase sales? No.
Making it more accessible increases sales (Translating games for certain regions, making it available in local stores and on the net)
But this sort of freedom probably also increases piracy cases, legitimate purchases outpace it though hence giving a sales boost.

Piracy is still a crime when a game is being sold by a company.
no risk of losing sales = no sales lost.


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Still a shitty thing to do.
i never cared what's considered a "crime" as much as i care about what's a bad or stupid thing to do
How is it a bad thing to do? This study proves otherwise.
you don't pay for thing

you don't get thing

simple

i don't care if it boosts sales in the long run by making the product more accessible or whatever bullshit justification there is

i'm sure if we broke every law in existence, there are specific circumstances that it might end up being good in the long term

but they're still not okay
bold words for someone who thinks food and shelter should be free


 
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Still a shitty thing to do.
i never cared what's considered a "crime" as much as i care about what's a bad or stupid thing to do
How is it a bad thing to do? This study proves otherwise.
you don't pay for thing

you don't get thing

simple

i don't care if it boosts sales in the long run by making the product more accessible or whatever bullshit justification there is

i'm sure if we broke every law in existence, there are specific circumstances that it might end up being good in the long term

but they're still not okay
bold words for someone who thinks food and shelter should be free
not really, considering those are necessities, whereas movies and games are just entertainment


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Still a shitty thing to do.
i never cared what's considered a "crime" as much as i care about what's a bad or stupid thing to do
How is it a bad thing to do? This study proves otherwise.
you don't pay for thing

you don't get thing

simple

i don't care if it boosts sales in the long run by making the product more accessible or whatever bullshit justification there is

i'm sure if we broke every law in existence, there are specific circumstances that it might end up being good in the long term

but they're still not okay
bold words for someone who thinks food and shelter should be free
not really, considering those are necessities, whereas movies and games are just entertainment
So if you don't pay for a thing, you may or may not get a thing, depending on  whether or not Verbatim thinks you are entitled to it?


 
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Still a shitty thing to do.
i never cared what's considered a "crime" as much as i care about what's a bad or stupid thing to do
How is it a bad thing to do? This study proves otherwise.
you don't pay for thing

you don't get thing

simple

i don't care if it boosts sales in the long run by making the product more accessible or whatever bullshit justification there is

i'm sure if we broke every law in existence, there are specific circumstances that it might end up being good in the long term

but they're still not okay
bold words for someone who thinks food and shelter should be free
not really, considering those are necessities, whereas movies and games are just entertainment
So if you don't pay for a thing, you may or may not get a thing, depending on  whether or not Verbatim thinks you are entitled to it?
basically

regardless of what i think, you're objectively entitled to the things that you need to survive

movies and games don't fall under that umbrella
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