Nietzsche > Camus. Existentialism forever.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 12, 2014, 07:34:12 PMNietzsche > Camus. Existentialism forever.Take a seat
it's like you want to be sad
Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 12, 2014, 07:40:52 PMQuote from: TrussingDoor on December 12, 2014, 07:37:18 PMit's like you want to be sad>not being an ubermensch >not advocating the flourishing of higher men >following a dirty pinko commie it's like you want to human culture to die>implying syndicalism is communism>implying overmen are real>implying higher men can bring me true freedomfuk u netchie you dont even cheat on ur spouse
Quote from: TrussingDoor on December 12, 2014, 07:37:18 PMit's like you want to be sad>not being an ubermensch >not advocating the flourishing of higher men >following a dirty pinko commie it's like you want to human culture to die
Not much of a fan.
Quote from: Flee on December 13, 2014, 01:23:40 PMAlso, English people pronounce it "Camoo"? Wut.Is "camoo" incorrect?What is the proper pronunciation? I'll defer to you since French is pretty common in Belgium.
Also, English people pronounce it "Camoo"? Wut.
but to deny that people can make their own meaning and say we have to embrace meaninglessness seems, to me, psychologically unnecessary. People can and do create their own meaning.
It's also like nihilism in the sense that the lack of meaning seems altogether incredibly profound - in the same way, not creating meaning and embracing the meaninglessness is a form of meaning in itself.
you do realize that absurdism doesn't at all deny that people can make their own meaning, correct? It does state that meaninglessness must be embraced [i.e. pursuit of intrinsic or the even sillier pursuit of objective meaning will end in failure] from a larger, detached standpoint. But absurdists greatly admire the creation of personal meaning. They just maintain that this meaning is certainly not the same as being one with the absurd.
Elucidate? Are you stating that the way nihilists recognize objective or intrinsic meaninglessness => meaning for nihilists? Because das silly
I have to say I've read differently. From this perspective it seems no different from existentialism.
Or, could you say, is existentialism more concerned with the values created, while absurdism is concerned with the pursuit of values?
I'm not saying that for nihilists themselves. I'm saying the way nihilists recognise meaninglessness, to non-nihilists, seems altogether profound and meaningful.
Absolutely! That's one of the cruxes of the entire movement. If you ever get the time, read The Rebel. It's a fantastic piece of anti-nihilism which also differentiates Camus' stance from existentialism as well.
I will have to read it some day. When I get through all the Nietzsche, Hume, Schopenhauer and Kant books on my shelves >.> Although, I have to say, Camus's extreme scepticism isn't that endearing - although, I could be wrong, since I'm only going from secondary sources.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 14, 2014, 12:18:44 PMI will have to read it some day. When I get through all the Nietzsche, Hume, Schopenhauer and Kant books on my shelves >.> Although, I have to say, Camus's extreme scepticism isn't that endearing - although, I could be wrong, since I'm only going from secondary sources. Bold = Required readingItalics = Nice readingUnderline = Required avoiding**"... bad books are intellectual poison; they destroy the mind."-Intellectual Poison
Camus for dummies.
