And I mean fucking parasites, covertly riding the wave of the progress which came before them. "I don't want to think about morality, it's confusing", or "I don't like talking about politics, it makes me uncomfortable". Fuck you.

It's ridiculous. Who cares if it's uncomfortable? Who cares if you don't enjoy it? I sure as hell don't. Life isn't supposed to be your hedonistic paradise, where you can unplug from reality and just drift about ignorant in your little matrix. Nobody's asking that you become Socrates Anew, and die for your proclamations. Just engage. Do a bit of work, vote, think a little. The social, moral and political architects of humanity have died, been tortured and faced social ostracisation so that you can have your "comfortable" life.

Was Rosa Parks comfortable? MLK? Luther? Socrates? Nietzsche? The men who fought and died at Omaha? Fuck no, they weren't. It's pathetic. These people who don't care about freedom of expression, is there anybody worth listening to less than these fucks?

People need to start thinking for themselves, once in a while.

preach

It's totally up to them what they do in their life.
The world hardly revolves around what you believe is the "right" thing to do.

The world hardly revolves around what you believe is the "right" thing to do.

No, it revolves around what is actually the "right" thing to do. I don't really know what choice has to do with it either; murderers choose to kill. . . I don't need to respect that, though.

I think appreciating the hardships of those who paved the way for us, and contributing in our own small way by considering the important questions of human society and the course of our species rather solidly falls into that category. Fuck, thinking about morality is pretty much a priori a moral imperative.

I sympathize, too, with the philosophical philistines, as it were.

I would if I cared about the "unwelcoming" nature of the discourse. But, I don't, really. Like I say, I don't give a fuck if you feel uncomfortable about it--it's irrelevant, both to me personally and to the nature of human progress.

Though not compulsory, I believe we have a civic duty to delve somewhat into both philosophy and politics.

Exactly my point.

Back to your subject, however, you are aware that it's always been like this, correct?

Sure. Doesn't make it right, though. I'm not asking everybody to become a moral philosopher.

Quote from: Sandtrap on July 06, 2015, 12:58:08 PM

Back to your subject, however, you are aware that it's always been like this, correct?

Sure. Doesn't make it right, though. I'm not asking everybody to become a moral philosopher.

And of course, I'm not saying that everybody can. And I'm not even advocating that it is right. But is it something that we can fix, currently?

No. Our system doesn't have that kind of support structure for something like that. Of course, not that it stops you from trying. But, frankly, you're preaching to the choir over here Meta.

Which probably just makes this a well disguised rant about stupid people then.

Carry on then.

I'd actually argue that the people who sit around and talk philosophy all day are the parasites, but that's just my general blue collar "I hate anyone who makes more money then me at a fucking desk job" attitude speaking.

Quote from: DAS B00T WILL RISE AGAIN on July 06, 2015, 01:50:00 PM

I'd actually argue that the people who sit around and talk philosophy all day are the parasites, but that's just my general blue collar "I hate anyone who makes more money then me at a fucking desk job" attitude speaking.

Don't you just wanna beat the shit out of businessmen and steal their boring ass beamers and Mercedes THEN SET IT THE FUCK ON FIRE NIGGA GET SOME FUCKBOY

WOO

FUCK YEAH
RALLY THE LABORERS
DOWN WITH THE BOURGEOISIE!

But as for actively discussing and going to rallies and stuff. Its just unwanted stress to people. John Doe works 9-5 and barely has time to eat dinner because he has to take his kid to baseball practice. Hes not home until 8 and then he has to fall asleep and do the same shit the next day. Why would he add unwanted stress to his already stressful life by caring so much about politics?

That's fine. If you've got a mortgage to pay, do that. I'm saying it's just not an excuse for being totally apathetic and uneducated. If you don't go to rallies, fine, whatever. I don't go to rallies.

But at least keep yourself educated when you get the chance.

But, of course, that alone shouldn't necessarily stop anyone from at least trying. People died so we could have the privilege of engaging in our civic duties, whereas in a lot of other countries, such a concept doesn't even exist.

Dude, calm the fuck down. βœ‹πŸ½
The average person doesn't have the time to actively engage in politics and philosophy. People have jobs, school, activities, and other shit to do. Yeah people can do a little research and watch the news to keep up but no ones going to waste hours of their day on the Internet or at rallies looking up things that won't even affect their daily life to begin with aside from some minimal knowledge of current events and politics.