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Even science has its flaws.

You believe that at the beginning, there was nothing, and from that an explosion happened?

Science doesn't have all the answers, so you can't say that it's more plausible than religion. I just try to live a good life :) Why can't you? I was raised a christian, and I will teach my child the ways of god.


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All hail Beyonder! Unlike your pigdog god that doesn't show his face, Beyonder actually does shit.

The difference in your holy books and mine? He actually appears, and does a shit ton of things.


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Perhaps you don't realize that it isn't Christians I have a problem with, but the fact they often try to push their morals and beliefs on others.


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Perhaps you don't realize that it isn't Christians I have a problem with, but the fact they often try to push their morals and beliefs on others.
That shouldn't bother you.

You should be bothered with how good the argument is.


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Perhaps you don't realize that it isn't Christians I have a problem with, but the fact they often try to push their morals and beliefs on others.
That shouldn't bother you.

You should be bothered with how good the argument is.
I'm not talking about internet arguments, I'm talking about things like legislation or teaching creationism in science class.
Last Edit: October 21, 2014, 09:51:40 AM by Mad Max


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This is really all I could ever say on the matter.


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Perhaps you don't realize that it isn't Christians I have a problem with, but the fact they often try to push their morals and beliefs on others.
Hey, I agree with you. But I've seen plenty of atheists who try and push their thoughts and degrade anybody that follows religion


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Perhaps you don't realize that it isn't Christians I have a problem with, but the fact they often try to push their morals and beliefs on others.
Hey, I agree with you. But I've seen plenty of atheists who try and push their thoughts and degrade anybody that follows religion
Because some people are dicks. No group is free from them. But I was talking about more big-picture stuff; things that effect people more directly, like laws.


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Perhaps you don't realize that it isn't Christians I have a problem with, but the fact they often try to push their morals and beliefs on others.
Hey, I agree with you. But I've seen plenty of atheists who try and push their thoughts and degrade anybody that follows religion
Because some people are dicks. No group is free from them. But I was talking about more big-picture stuff; things that effect people more directly, like laws.
Ah. That makes sense


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You believe that at the beginning, there was nothing, and from that an explosion happened?

Anytime someone says this I become certain they don't know what they are talking about.


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You believe that at the beginning, there was nothing, and from that an explosion happened?

Anytime someone says this I become certain they don't know what they are talking about.
Quite.


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Everything that attempts to explain the origins of the universe is flawed in some way. Why not just accept that we will never know and live in the moment?

Not everyone who doesn't believe in religion believes in the big bang. But the big bang wasn't an explosion, contrary to its name. It was an expansion that resulted from a chance (quantum fluctuations) that nothingness over an infinite period of time had to become something. The human mind cannot comprehend this - it is a limitation of our mind. We can only think and work in the four dimensions (the three dimensions of space and the fourth dimension of time). It is like trying to imagine a colour you cannot see. Religion is likely a result of this limitation. Our way to connect the dots, if you will.

There are various other theories, such as the multiverse theory and string theory. We will never know what actually happened, though, due to light not being able to exist in the early universe, which means that after a certain distance in the observable universe, things go invisible.

Even religion has its flaws - you believe that in the beginning there was nothing, and a deity just came to be from that nothing? You believe that women were created from a mans rib? You believe that a man split a lake apart and walked through it? You believe that a man can turn water into wine? You believe that the Earth is only a few thousand years old?


Personally, I, believe in nothing. I don't believe in the big bang (or string theory, or the multiverse theory), and I don't believe in religion.

"Cognito ergo sum"


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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
Eh, not sure if troll, but I'll bite.

Even science has its flaws.
Which is why the scientific inquiry is constantly expanding and adding to the collective knowledge of the known world around us so we can attempt to eliminate those flaws. It's why we don't use Aristotelian physics in the school curriculum, or in any other educational outlet for that matter.
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You believe that at the beginning, there was nothing, and from that an explosion happened?
If that's why you take issue with the Big Bang then why don't you take issue with God's origin? Why is it ridiculous for the universe to come into fruition but it makes complete logical sense for God to just magically come into being?
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Science doesn't have all the answers
No, but it's provided us with a lot of them. Religion hasn't provided us with any reputable explanations besides a vague assumption of a despotic sky wizard.
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so you can't say that it's more plausible than religion. I just try to live a good life :) Why can't you?
I live a very happy life without religion and god, thank you very much. It's entirely possible, shockingly enough.
Last Edit: October 21, 2014, 11:59:43 AM by Madman Mordo


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Eh, not sure if troll, but I'll bite.

Even science has its flaws.
Which is why the scientific inquiry is constantly expanding and adding to the collective knowledge of the known world around us so we can attempt to eliminate those flaws. It's why we don't use Aristotelian physics in the school curriculum, or in any other educational outlet for that matter.
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You believe that at the beginning, there was nothing, and from that an explosion happened?
If that's why you take issue with the Big Bang then why don't you take issue with God's origin? Why is it ridiculous for the universe to come into fruition but it makes complete logical sense for God to just magically come into being?
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Science doesn't have all the answers
No, but it's provided us with a lot of them. Religion hasn't provided us with any reputable explanations besides a vague assumption of a despotic sky wizard.
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so you can't say that it's more plausible than religion. I just try to live a good life :) Why can't you?
I live a very happy life without religion and god, thank you very much. It's entirely possible, shockingly enough.
I wasn't even trying to get any comments, I just wanted to prove a point!

God damn low lives are writing several replies all over the thread, and I'm not interested in any one of them. Please stop.


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I wasn't even trying to get any comments, I just wanted to prove a point!

God damn low lives are writing several replies all over the thread, and I'm not interested in any one of them. Please stop.
What point are you making? Why post a thread if you don't want replies?
Last Edit: October 21, 2014, 12:05:09 PM by Mad Max


 
 
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I wasn't even trying to get any comments, I just wanted to prove a point!

God damn low lives are writing several replies all over the thread, and I'm not interested in any one of them. Please stop.
What point are you making? Why post a thread if you don't want replies?

I think this was spawned from his thread in the flood claiming he could post whatever in serious. Since this is... the shell... of an actual discussion it's being left in here. For now.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Personally, I, believe in nothing.

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"Cognito ergo sum"
Make your mind up.


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Why is this on serious?
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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
Eh, not sure if troll, but I'll bite.

Even science has its flaws.
Which is why the scientific inquiry is constantly expanding and adding to the collective knowledge of the known world around us so we can attempt to eliminate those flaws. It's why we don't use Aristotelian physics in the school curriculum, or in any other educational outlet for that matter.
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You believe that at the beginning, there was nothing, and from that an explosion happened?
If that's why you take issue with the Big Bang then why don't you take issue with God's origin? Why is it ridiculous for the universe to come into fruition but it makes complete logical sense for God to just magically come into being?
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Science doesn't have all the answers
No, but it's provided us with a lot of them. Religion hasn't provided us with any reputable explanations besides a vague assumption of a despotic sky wizard.
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so you can't say that it's more plausible than religion. I just try to live a good life :) Why can't you?
I live a very happy life without religion and god, thank you very much. It's entirely possible, shockingly enough.
I wasn't even trying to get any comments, I just wanted to prove a point!

God damn low lives are writing several replies all over the thread, and I'm not interested in any one of them. Please stop.
So your logic was to post in a sub forum designed for DISCUSSION right enough?

If you want to voice your edgy opinions without conversation, then make a twitter account. Otherwise, fuck off.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
I have nothing against religious individuals as people.

It's just their non-cognitivist metaphysics I reject - rightfully so, and fervently so, I might maintain.


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Personally, I, believe in nothing.

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Make your mind up.

I don't think I was clear enough in my phrasing. I was referring to anything related to our origins - I'm not a nihilist.


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Eh, not sure if troll, but I'll bite.

Even science has its flaws.
Which is why the scientific inquiry is constantly expanding and adding to the collective knowledge of the known world around us so we can attempt to eliminate those flaws. It's why we don't use Aristotelian physics in the school curriculum, or in any other educational outlet for that matter.
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You believe that at the beginning, there was nothing, and from that an explosion happened?
If that's why you take issue with the Big Bang then why don't you take issue with God's origin? Why is it ridiculous for the universe to come into fruition but it makes complete logical sense for God to just magically come into being?
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Science doesn't have all the answers
No, but it's provided us with a lot of them. Religion hasn't provided us with any reputable explanations besides a vague assumption of a despotic sky wizard.
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so you can't say that it's more plausible than religion. I just try to live a good life :) Why can't you?
I live a very happy life without religion and god, thank you very much. It's entirely possible, shockingly enough.
I wasn't even trying to get any comments, I just wanted to prove a point!

God damn low lives are writing several replies all over the thread, and I'm not interested in any one of them. Please stop.
So your logic was to post in a sub forum designed for DISCUSSION right enough?

If you want to voice your edgy opinions without conversation, then make a twitter account. Otherwise, frack off.
My opinion? What part of- you know what? Okay.


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My stupidity is self evident.
Everything that attempts to explain the origins of the universe is flawed in some way. Why not just accept that we will never know and live in the moment?

Not everyone who doesn't believe in religion believes in the big bang. But the big bang wasn't an explosion, contrary to its name. It was an expansion that resulted from a chance (quantum fluctuations) that nothingness over an infinite period of time had to become something. The human mind cannot comprehend this - it is a limitation of our mind. We can only think and work in the four dimensions (the three dimensions of space and the fourth dimension of time). It is like trying to imagine a colour you cannot see. Religion is likely a result of this limitation. Our way to connect the dots, if you will.

There are various other theories, such as the multiverse theory and string theory. We will never know what actually happened, though, due to light not being able to exist in the early universe, which means that after a certain distance in the observable universe, things go invisible.

Even religion has its flaws - you believe that in the beginning there was nothing, and a deity just came to be from that nothing? You believe that women were created from a mans rib? You believe that a man split a lake apart and walked through it? You believe that a man can turn water into wine? You believe that the Earth is only a few thousand years old?


Personally, I, believe in nothing. I don't believe in the big bang (or string theory, or the multiverse theory), and I don't believe in religion.

"Cognito ergo sum"
A couple of minor gripes.

Asserting that that we will never know is just bad as asserting that we already know.

That third paragraph, we may not be able to see light past that point but it is entirely possible we will be able to detect gravitational radiation from the very point of expansion. Also, that point past which we can't detect light was predicted by and only by the Big Bang model.

I don't speak of belief in science, but in degrees of confidence in an observation and the theory that explains it. Scientific theories and religious assertions are hardly on the same footing, to say so is to make quite the category error.

It's "cogito ergo sum", please don't tell me you're a solipsist.
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Everything that attempts to explain the origins of the universe is flawed in some way. Why not just accept that we will never know and live in the moment?

Not everyone who doesn't believe in religion believes in the big bang. But the big bang wasn't an explosion, contrary to its name. It was an expansion that resulted from a chance (quantum fluctuations) that nothingness over an infinite period of time had to become something. The human mind cannot comprehend this - it is a limitation of our mind. We can only think and work in the four dimensions (the three dimensions of space and the fourth dimension of time). It is like trying to imagine a colour you cannot see. Religion is likely a result of this limitation. Our way to connect the dots, if you will.

There are various other theories, such as the multiverse theory and string theory. We will never know what actually happened, though, due to light not being able to exist in the early universe, which means that after a certain distance in the observable universe, things go invisible.

Even religion has its flaws - you believe that in the beginning there was nothing, and a deity just came to be from that nothing? You believe that women were created from a mans rib? You believe that a man split a lake apart and walked through it? You believe that a man can turn water into wine? You believe that the Earth is only a few thousand years old?


Personally, I, believe in nothing. I don't believe in the big bang (or string theory, or the multiverse theory), and I don't believe in religion.

"Cognito ergo sum"
A couple of minor gripes.

Asserting that that we will never know is just bad as asserting that we already know.

That third paragraph, we may not be able to see light past that point but it is entirely possible we will be able to detect gravitational radiation from the very point of expansion. Also, that point past which we can't detect light was predicted by and only by the Big Bang model.

I don't speak of belief in science, but in degrees of confidence in an observation and the theory that explains it. Scientific theories and religious assertions are hardly on the same footing, to say so is to make quite the category error.

It's "cogito ergo sum", please don't tell me you're a solipsist.

I am not a solipsist. I am well aware that science is on a whole different page than religion, but to attempt to explain that to the person who is presumably extremely religious is like attempting to play a game of chess with a crow. It will knock over the pieces, shit on the board, preach about its religion and how I am wrong and then fly away.