Pence has generally been able to express decent positions on the topics he's been asked
Quote from: Prime the Stampede on October 04, 2016, 09:33:59 PMPence has generally been able to express decent positions on the topics he's been askedCould you name me one?I'm not terribly concerned about their level of respect, given that these men won't necessarily be leading the country.
I liked Pence a lot more but he lost this one.Trump was his worst enemy here.
Both agreed to some sort of safe zone in Syria, with some differences between them, and his position that the continuation of current policies dealing with Russia aren't effective.I said they were decent, not good; I'd still argue against him in certain situations, but overall he's done a much better job of stating those positions than his partner (no duh).And respect is always something I pay attention to when someone wishes to represent the government. Kaine made multiple statements along this line of thought against Trump while consistently acting disrespectful himself both by interrupting Pence and ignoring Elaine's many requests for him to stop.
If Pence had any sense, he wouldn't even try.
Honestly, Tim Kaine going on the offensive and constantly interrupting Pence, Trump style, might hurt him a bit.
Never looked into Pence until yesterday. Saw some videos. Typical Republican in office denying Climate change and Evolution. Can't even take him seriously anymore.
- In March, Pence signed a bill into law requiring burial or cremation for aborted fetuses.- Pence said he'd like to "send Roe v. Wade to the ash heap of history."- Pence signed a 2015 bill permitting Indiana business owners to cite religious beliefs as a reason to refuse service to gay and lesbian customers.- As Indiana's governor, Pence slashed Planned Parenthood funding, arguably contributing to one county's HIV outbreak.- During his 12 years as a congressman, Pence voted against nearly every piece of environmental legislation.- Pence voted to bar the Environmental Protection Agency from regulating greenhouse gases.- Pence voted for opening the Atlantic up to offshore oil drilling.- As a congressman, Pence gave a floor speech advocating the teaching of creationism in public schools.- Pence wrote an op-ed arguing that "smoking doesn't kill."- Pence has advocated the use of public funds for conversion therapy, a discredited and potentially harmful form of anti-gay therapy.- Gov. Pence funneled $3.5 million in Indiana's Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) funds, intended for needy families with children, to crisis pregnancy centers, which counsel women against having abortions.- Gov. Pence refused to comply with Obama administration rules aimed at reducing prison rape.- As congressman, Pence voted in favor of a bill that would have allowed for the detention of undocumented immigrants seeking hospital treatment.- Pence co-sponsored a bill in Congress that would have eliminated automatic citizenship for children born on US soil to undocumented parents.- Pence was one of 31 governors to oppose the resettlement of Syrian refugees in his state, declaring that state agencies wouldn't cover the cost of some social services for Syrian refugees. His behavior earned him a strong rebuke from a panel of three federal judges, including one whom Donald Trump put on his Supreme Court nominee short list.
- Pence said he'd like to "send Roe v. Wade to the ash heap of history."
Quote from: Luciana on October 05, 2016, 02:44:43 PM- Pence said he'd like to "send Roe v. Wade to the ash heap of history."Kaine did actually bring this one up when they were talking about religious beliefs and abortion.
Pence's record is remarkably backwards and laughable. The fact Kaine didn't bring it up astounds me.
Quote from: Luciana on October 05, 2016, 02:44:43 PMPence's record is remarkably backwards and laughable. The fact Kaine didn't bring it up astounds me.It shouldn't. The point of a VP debate is to act as a proxy for your nominee and bring down the other one.
survival of the fittest is evil
Quote from: Gatortag on October 05, 2016, 08:52:36 PMsurvival of the fittest is evilWat? It's how we as a human race have come to be the apex predator of the world. To say it's evil is to try and put ethics on the very fundamentals of life as we know it. The strong survive, the weak and old die. Period. End of story, whether they like it or not. Maybe not so much with humans nowadays in the basic definition of it, but the animal kingdom yes.
Quote from: Luciana on October 05, 2016, 09:06:11 PMQuote from: Gatortag on October 05, 2016, 08:52:36 PMsurvival of the fittest is evilWat? It's how we as a human race have come to be the apex predator of the world. To say it's evil is to try and put ethics on the very fundamentals of life as we know it. The strong survive, the weak and old die. Period. End of story, whether they like it or not. Maybe not so much with humans nowadays in the basic definition of it, but the animal kingdom yes.He called it faciast. So I'm assuming he meant as far as humans go.
*shrug*The moment you brought god into it, that's the moment I would fundamentally disagree. The world is just naturally cold, as is the universe. No religion can change cold hard facts on how life works.
Pence VS Kaine, round two of presidential debates LET'S GO.
