Poll

Announced Canidates:

Bernie Sanders
9 (36%)
Hilarly Clindon
5 (20%)
Ted Cruz
0 (0%)
Rand Paul
7 (28%)
Marco Rubio
1 (4%)
Other
3 (12%)

Total Members Voted: 25

Out of the announced / potential 2016 canidates who does Sep7 favor so far?

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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/2016-presidential-candidates.html?_r=0

Really kind of a meh list for me. I tend to align with Obama on most issues. Been a registered Dem since I turned 18. Fairly moderate. Probably most closely aligned to Hilary out of this group, but really don't care for her and would prefer to avoid another Clinton/Bush. Dynasties shouldn't be a thing.

Sanders is bit more to the left than I am. Though I do tend to admire his consistency and agree with him on a number of issues. Frankly just don't think he has the personality to build a winning coalition tbh. Not to mention the amount of gridlock that would result from an actual socialist president and a conservative congress. Will be interesting watching the dem primary debates though.

On the Republican side Rand Paul is the only sane option of the announced three as far as I'm concerned. Even then he holds meh views on net neutrality, global warming, etc. He's fairly libertarian as far as the conservatives go though. Pushing for Republicans to let up on gay marriage, legalization of pot, etc.

Rubio is your standard conservative which just doesn't click with me on a number of fronts, and Ted Cruz is insane. Haven't read up too much on the other potentials at this point. Just wondering what the rest of your thoughts are.


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Just an FYI, you misspelled Clinton.

But anyways, I'm slightly favoring Sanders namely because he isn't a Republican and he isn't Hillary Clinton. I also agree with several of his policies as well, so that's an added bonus.


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Just an FYI, you misspelled Clinton.
Eh.


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Anyone who's not Republican.


 
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No one on that list is progressive enough, so I'm just on the "fuck Walker" campaign.


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Bernie mother-fuckin' Sanders.


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No one on that list is progressive enough, so I'm just on the "fuck Walker" campaign.
>No one progressive enough
>Bernie Sanders first openly Socialist candidate in a while

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ugh... Clinton is Clinton, Sanders is a socialist.
Ruze Cruz is too socially conservative, Rand isn't really a libertarian and shills for the Koch bros, I don't know much about Rubio.

I wish they'd pick some sane people to run every once in a while...


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ugh... Clinton is Clinton, Sanders is a socialist.
Ruze Cruz is too socially conservative, Rand isn't really a libertarian and shills for the Koch bros, I don't know much about Rubio.

I wish they'd pick some sane people to run every once in a while...
Oh no! A dreaded Socialist!!

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ugh... Clinton is Clinton, Sanders is a socialist.
Ruze Cruz is too socially conservative, Rand isn't really a libertarian and shills for the Koch bros, I don't know much about Rubio.

I wish they'd pick some sane people to run every once in a while...
Oh no! A dreaded Socialist!!

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ugh... Clinton is Clinton, Sanders is a socialist.
Ruze Cruz is too socially conservative, Rand isn't really a libertarian and shills for the Koch bros, I don't know much about Rubio.

I wish they'd pick some sane people to run every once in a while...
Oh no! A dreaded Socialist!!

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Sorry, but I like my markets how I would like to see Snowden.

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No one on that list is progressive enough, so I'm just on the "fuck Walker" campaign.
>No one progressive enough
>Bernie Sanders first openly Socialist candidate in a while

I don't think Xi Jinping can run Class.
I don't want a progressive socialist candidate, I want a progressive libertarian candidate.


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No one on that list is progressive enough, so I'm just on the "fuck Walker" campaign.
>No one progressive enough
>Bernie Sanders first openly Socialist candidate in a while

I don't think Xi Jinping can run Class.
I don't want a progressive socialist candidate, I want a progressive libertarian candidate.
>libertarianism

>totally not the biggest schmuck bait out there


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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No one on that list is progressive enough, so I'm just on the "fuck Walker" campaign.
>No one progressive enough
>Bernie Sanders first openly Socialist candidate in a while

I don't think Xi Jinping can run Class.
I don't want a progressive socialist candidate, I want a progressive libertarian candidate.
>libertarianism

>totally not the biggest schmuck bait out there
>thinking someone other than you should have any say whatsoever over what you put into your own body

>thinking that any kind of solely consensual action should be prohibited
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No one on that list is progressive enough, so I'm just on the "fuck Walker" campaign.
>No one progressive enough
>Bernie Sanders first openly Socialist candidate in a while

I don't think Xi Jinping can run Class.
I don't want a progressive socialist candidate, I want a progressive libertarian candidate.
>libertarianism

>totally not the biggest schmuck bait out there
>thinking someone other than you should have any say whatsoever over what you put into your own body

>thinking that any kind of solely consensual action should be prohibited
You can be socially liberal without being libertarian. I support drug legalization myself.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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No one on that list is progressive enough, so I'm just on the "fuck Walker" campaign.
>No one progressive enough
>Bernie Sanders first openly Socialist candidate in a while

I don't think Xi Jinping can run Class.
I don't want a progressive socialist candidate, I want a progressive libertarian candidate.
>libertarianism

>totally not the biggest schmuck bait out there
>thinking someone other than you should have any say whatsoever over what you put into your own body

>thinking that any kind of solely consensual action should be prohibited
You can be socially liberal without being libertarian. I support drug legalization myself.
I don't align with any party, but pretty much every time I've told anyone about my most important political values, they've identified me as a libertarian.

I'm more concerned with it in a social sense, like the right to be a prostitute, take hard drugs, or kill yourself/consenting others. I don't really care about the issues most libertarians in power these days are preaching...the economic side of it.

So I guess I'd be more of a radical liberal then a libertarian, but I've never seen a mainstream Democrat come even close to representing my ideals, whereas people like Gary Johnson sometimes do.


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No one on that list is progressive enough, so I'm just on the "fuck Walker" campaign.
>No one progressive enough
>Bernie Sanders first openly Socialist candidate in a while

I don't think Xi Jinping can run Class.
I don't want a progressive socialist candidate, I want a progressive libertarian candidate.
>libertarianism

>totally not the biggest schmuck bait out there
>thinking someone other than you should have any say whatsoever over what you put into your own body

>thinking that any kind of solely consensual action should be prohibited
You can be socially liberal without being libertarian. I support drug legalization myself.
I don't align with any party, but pretty much every time I've told anyone about my most important political values, they've identified me as a libertarian.

I'm more concerned with it in a social sense, like the right to be a prostitute, take hard drugs, or kill yourself/consenting others. I don't really care about the issues most libertarians in power these days are preaching...the economic side of it.

So I guess I'd be more of a radical liberal then a libertarian, but I've never seen a mainstream Democrat come even close to representing my ideals, whereas people like Gary Johnson sometimes do.
The difference (assumptions) between being a Liberal and being Libertarian is that Libertarianism implies a more laissez faire approach to economy, while Liberal more implies the Government taking a slightly more hands-on approach.
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Personally, I'm hoping for a Biden/Obama ticket.


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Personally, I'm hoping for a Biden/Obama ticket.
If Obama was allowed to run for another term, I'd totally vote for him.


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Personally, I'm hoping for a Biden/Obama ticket.
If Obama was allowed to run for another term, I'd totally vote for him.

He can run as VP. The Constitution only restricts being elected for a third term; if Biden died, Obama could take over just fine.


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Personally, I'm hoping for a Biden/Obama ticket.
If Obama was allowed to run for another term, I'd totally vote for him.

He can run as VP. The Constitution only restricts being elected for a third term; if Biden died, Obama could take over just fine.
Yeah, but what are the chances of Biden actually taking office?

He'd be 73/74 by the time elections happen, so if he was a 2-termer, he'd be out when he's 81/82. So he's really racking up the years now.


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No one on that list is progressive enough, so I'm just on the "fuck Walker" campaign.
>No one progressive enough
>Bernie Sanders first openly Socialist candidate in a while

I don't think Xi Jinping can run Class.
I don't want a progressive socialist candidate, I want a progressive libertarian candidate.
Fair enough. Would also like to see the right moderate a bit more, or at the very least become modern enough to challenge the left. There's been a bit of a growing divide on the left, and a sane fall back would be nice. Could see myself voting for the right type of progressive libertarian over a far left authoritarian candidate.
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I had a dream last night that it came down between Hillary and Rand...and I never have dreams about this shit.


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Personally, I'm hoping for a Biden/Obama ticket.
That would be hilarious.


 
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Personally, I'm hoping for a Biden/Obama ticket.
That would be hilarious.
Basically what Putin did.