Ohio, Florida, Nevada and North Carolina Don't Matter

Mattie G Indahouse · October 13, 2016, 03:10:29 AM

Quote from: PSU on October 12, 2016, 10:27:55 PM

Quote from: Renly's peach on October 12, 2016, 07:30:19 PM
Quote from: PSU on October 12, 2016, 05:02:47 PM
Yawn, its obvious he wont win.
What happened to make you think that, before you were saying he was going to win with no doubts about it.

Because its obvious the Democrats, MSM, and Hillary will do ANYTHING to win this election. Including massive voter fraud.

Hes got no chance because he was never given a realistic shot, just like Bernie.

Maybe the reason why he is losing is simply due to the shit that comes out of his mouth. Nearly every time he speaks, he ends up losing support from his party. Hillary is not his biggest threat of losing, he himself is.

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Verbatim · October 13, 2016, 07:44:03 AM

Quote from: Patriotic Pepe on October 13, 2016, 03:10:29 AM

Maybe the reason why he is loosing is simply due to the shit that comes out of his mouth. Nearly every time he speaks, he ends up loosing support from his party. Hillary is not his biggest threat of loosing, he himself is.

"Lose" only has one "o." It's really hard to take you seriously when you're having trouble spelling top 500 words.

Luciana · October 13, 2016, 09:21:42 AM

Quote from: PSU on October 12, 2016, 10:27:55 PM

Including massive voter fraud.

That's what Romney said too, and there is quite literally no reoccurring evidence of it. Trumpets are buying into his lie that its rigged because they can't accept the fact their candidate was too stupid too win the election. His original message rings true and he could have easily won, but he can never get out of his own way.

It's not hard to win against Hillary, but every time something comes out that can kill her in polls, he has to get into some stupid fight, almost as if he wants her to win. Which I honestly still think he does. He never expected to get this far and is in way over his head. What better way to steal attention from Hillary than make something big of your own? He knows EXACTLY how to work the media too, as he's shown the last 16 months.

Luciana · October 13, 2016, 09:22:18 AM

Quote from: LC on October 13, 2016, 12:41:55 AM

Quote from: Alpha on October 13, 2016, 12:18:28 AM
There is no evidence of rigged elections in Russia.

except for you know, the ballot stuffing in the parliamentary elections and the Russian government funding Putins campaign to make sure nobody could match him

This. Their message this year was to specifically try and stay clean.

Luciana · October 13, 2016, 09:22:54 AM

Quote from: PSU on October 12, 2016, 10:28:59 PM

and its not just Trump. It didn't matter who the Republican nominee was, they weren't going to win. The establishment decided this is Hillary's time.

Kasich or Bush easily could have beaten her. Hell Kasich would have had MY vote if he won. The guys actually done good for the country.

Turkey · October 13, 2016, 09:56:54 AM

Mild-mannered Kasich never had a chance against Trump or Cruz. I think a debate between Bernie and Kasich would have been a genuinely enlightening political experience. I'm legitimately considering voting for Johnson in the hopes that a record-high third party vote shows both parties they're fucked up.

Tyger · October 13, 2016, 10:04:39 AM

Quote from: Luciana on October 13, 2016, 09:22:54 AM

Quote from: PSU on October 12, 2016, 10:28:59 PM
and its not just Trump. It didn't matter who the Republican nominee was, they weren't going to win. The establishment decided this is Hillary's time.
Kasich or Bush easily could have beaten her.

you're nuts

I really like kasich, I actually volunteered for his campaign call banking and shit. The guy would have been torn apart by Hillary. She's an excellent spin artist (not an insult, I see it as an actual skill) and her ad team is savage. There would have been another "binders full of women" scandal where they took a non issue and demonized him just like Romney

And I think the world has had just about enough of the Bush family (I hope)

Tyger · October 13, 2016, 10:12:08 AM

The only way the Republicans will ever win an election again is if they form some sort of Center-Right coalition. Either cannibalizes the libertarian party or just shift towards center as a whole and back people like Rand Paul. Young people don't want somebody like Cruz or Bush or Pence. And after trump, they'll never let an "outsider" get any traction in the party again.

Turkey · October 13, 2016, 10:19:33 AM

Quote from: Tyger on October 13, 2016, 10:12:08 AM

shift towards center as a whole and back people like Rand Paul.

Young people don't want somebody like Cruz or Bush or Pence.

All three of those are more centrist than Paul is, though.

PSU · October 13, 2016, 10:36:51 AM

Quote from: Patriotic Pepe on October 13, 2016, 03:10:29 AM

Quote from: PSU on October 12, 2016, 10:27:55 PM
Quote from: Renly's peach on October 12, 2016, 07:30:19 PM
Quote from: PSU on October 12, 2016, 05:02:47 PM
Yawn, its obvious he wont win.
What happened to make you think that, before you were saying he was going to win with no doubts about it.

Because its obvious the Democrats, MSM, and Hillary will do ANYTHING to win this election. Including massive voter fraud.

Hes got no chance because he was never given a realistic shot, just like Bernie.
Maybe the reason why he is losing is simply due to the shit that comes out of his mouth. Nearly every time he speaks, he ends up losing support from his party. Hillary is not his biggest threat of losing, he himself is.

You don't truly believe this election has been fair, do you? You're not that dumb.

big sponge · October 13, 2016, 10:41:35 AM

Quote from: Luciana on October 13, 2016, 09:22:18 AM

Quote from: LC on October 13, 2016, 12:41:55 AM
Quote from: Alpha on October 13, 2016, 12:18:28 AM
There is no evidence of rigged elections in Russia.

except for you know, the ballot stuffing in the parliamentary elections and the Russian government funding Putins campaign to make sure nobody could match him
This. Their message this year was to specifically try and stay clean.

that was the message but it didn't actually happen

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/09/russia-putin-election-fraud/500867/

Luciana · October 13, 2016, 10:55:18 AM

Quote from: Tyger on October 13, 2016, 10:04:39 AM

Quote from: Luciana on October 13, 2016, 09:22:54 AM
Quote from: PSU on October 12, 2016, 10:28:59 PM
and its not just Trump. It didn't matter who the Republican nominee was, they weren't going to win. The establishment decided this is Hillary's time.
Kasich or Bush easily could have beaten her.
you're nuts

I really like kasich, I actually volunteered for his campaign call banking and shit. The guy would have been torn apart by Hillary. She's an excellent spin artist (not an insult, I see it as an actual skill) and her ad team is savage. There would have been another "binders full of women" scandal where they took a non issue and demonized him just like Romney

And I think the world has had just about enough of the Bush family (I hope)

Thing is, if people could put up with Trump, me thinks they could put up with Kasich.

Luciana · October 13, 2016, 10:56:38 AM

Quote from: PSU on October 13, 2016, 10:36:51 AM

Quote from: Patriotic Pepe on October 13, 2016, 03:10:29 AM
Quote from: PSU on October 12, 2016, 10:27:55 PM
Quote from: Renly's peach on October 12, 2016, 07:30:19 PM
Quote from: PSU on October 12, 2016, 05:02:47 PM
Yawn, its obvious he wont win.
What happened to make you think that, before you were saying he was going to win with no doubts about it.

Because its obvious the Democrats, MSM, and Hillary will do ANYTHING to win this election. Including massive voter fraud.

Hes got no chance because he was never given a realistic shot, just like Bernie.
Maybe the reason why he is losing is simply due to the shit that comes out of his mouth. Nearly every time he speaks, he ends up losing support from his party. Hillary is not his biggest threat of losing, he himself is.

You don't truly believe this election has been fair, do you? You're not that dumb.

It hasn't been fair on the Democratic Party side, but idk where you're even getting sources from that the national election will be rigged. Are you at all surprised someone as bombastic and idiotic as Trump would lose? He doesn't get out of his own way and gets into stupid fights that take away from the things Hillary has done.

People who actually buy into Trumps habitual lies only confirm how desperate and deluded his supporters are, thinking they only lost because it's rigged.

Edit: I should also note that national elections are controlled at the state level, most of which are controlled by a Republican majority. People like to conveniently forget that and assume the Democrats have a hold on everything, which is far from the truth.

Tyger · October 13, 2016, 11:43:05 AM

Quote from: ApoplecticFowl on October 13, 2016, 10:19:33 AM

Quote from: Tyger on October 13, 2016, 10:12:08 AM
shift towards center as a whole and back people like Rand Paul.

Young people don't want somebody like Cruz or Bush or Pence.

All three of those are more centrist than Paul is, though.

nah Paul has an extremely conservative voting record for fiscal policy (Cruz is up there too) but his ideas about foreign policy, military, domestic/social issues are pretty iberal for an (R)

Verbatim · October 13, 2016, 11:46:56 AM

Quote from: Luciana on October 13, 2016, 10:55:18 AM

Quote from: Tyger on October 13, 2016, 10:04:39 AM
Quote from: Luciana on October 13, 2016, 09:22:54 AM
Quote from: PSU on October 12, 2016, 10:28:59 PM
and its not just Trump. It didn't matter who the Republican nominee was, they weren't going to win. The establishment decided this is Hillary's time.
Kasich or Bush easily could have beaten her.
you're nuts

I really like kasich, I actually volunteered for his campaign call banking and shit. The guy would have been torn apart by Hillary. She's an excellent spin artist (not an insult, I see it as an actual skill) and her ad team is savage. There would have been another "binders full of women" scandal where they took a non issue and demonized him just like Romney

And I think the world has had just about enough of the Bush family (I hope)
Thing is, if people could put up with Trump, me thinks they could put up with Kasich.

Well, keep in mind that most Trump supporters only support him because he's a cartoon character--a caricature of what a presidential candidate is supposed to be. They're not actually concerned about competence--they want to fuck the establishment in the ass. He's basically a #YOLO candidate--whatever happens next is just popcorn material.

Kasich is an overall brighter guy, but Trump supporters aren't really interested in that. They're not interested in nominating someone with the personality of a handkerchief, or any other washed-up member of this crumbling Republican party. Instead, they want the guy who has the best shot at shaking things up, no matter how stupid. Because they know they don't have a chance any other way. That's the way I see it.

Luciana · October 13, 2016, 12:16:35 PM

Fair enough

Verbatim · October 13, 2016, 01:14:19 PM

Quote from: Luciana on October 13, 2016, 12:16:35 PM

Fair enough

I agree that Kasich was the best the GOP had to offer, but I just think the prospect of him beating Hillary (had he been nominated) is a little bit of wishful thinking. Tyger summed it up well.

Pippen · October 13, 2016, 01:40:41 PM

I will say that a lot of things like fucking over Bernie and how much media coverage is against Trump in every way. In fact many in the news and media industry SUPPORT Hillary openly and fund her, which IMO means they should not be allowed to cover media about the presidential elections if they are that biased. These two things are against any other candidate but Hillary.

But Trump dug his own hole as well, why this one statement triggered the firestorm and none of his other ones did I will never know.

Luciana · October 13, 2016, 01:42:19 PM

Quote from: Pippen on October 13, 2016, 01:40:41 PM

I will say that a lot of things like fucking over Bernie and how much media coverage is against Trump in every way. In fact many in the news and media industry SUPPORT Hillary openly and fund her, which IMO means they should not be allowed to cover media about the presidential elections if they are that biased. These two things are against any other candidate but Hillary.

But Trump dug his own hole as well, why this one statement triggered the firestorm and none of his other ones did I will never know.

They cover him more than Hillary because of the asinine things he says

Mattie G Indahouse · October 14, 2016, 04:17:37 AM

Quote from: PSU on October 13, 2016, 10:36:51 AM

Quote from: Patriotic Pepe on October 13, 2016, 03:10:29 AM
Quote from: PSU on October 12, 2016, 10:27:55 PM
Quote from: Renly's peach on October 12, 2016, 07:30:19 PM
Quote from: PSU on October 12, 2016, 05:02:47 PM
Yawn, its obvious he wont win.
What happened to make you think that, before you were saying he was going to win with no doubts about it.

Because its obvious the Democrats, MSM, and Hillary will do ANYTHING to win this election. Including massive voter fraud.

Hes got no chance because he was never given a realistic shot, just like Bernie.
Maybe the reason why he is losing is simply due to the shit that comes out of his mouth. Nearly every time he speaks, he ends up losing support from his party. Hillary is not his biggest threat of losing, he himself is.

You don't truly believe this election has been fair, do you? You're not that dumb.

What proof do you have that this election so far is being rigged, besides that stupid tinfoil hat shit coming out of the mouths of conservatives and Trump? Like I said above, Trumps worst enemy is himself due to the shit he is saying. It's hard to get support from your own party when you're badmouthing the people who make it up.

Also lets say Trump won, would that be because of fair play or would it be due to a rigged election? After all if Hillary is winning due to it being rigged then it must have to be rigged as well for Trump in order to win.

Tyger · October 14, 2016, 10:40:54 AM

Quote from: Luciana on October 13, 2016, 01:42:19 PM

Quote from: Pippen on October 13, 2016, 01:40:41 PM
I will say that a lot of things like fucking over Bernie and how much media coverage is against Trump in every way. In fact many in the news and media industry SUPPORT Hillary openly and fund her, which IMO means they should not be allowed to cover media about the presidential elections if they are that biased. These two things are against any other candidate but Hillary.

But Trump dug his own hole as well, why this one statement triggered the firestorm and none of his other ones did I will never know.
They cover him more than Hillary because of the asinine things he says

they cover him more because the media has extreme liberal bias so covering real news like all the leaks, deaths of informants, bill Clinton rape accusations ect wouldn't fit the narrative they're trying to force upon the masses

Luciana · October 14, 2016, 12:28:28 PM

Quote from: Tyger on October 14, 2016, 10:40:54 AM

Quote from: Luciana on October 13, 2016, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Pippen on October 13, 2016, 01:40:41 PM
I will say that a lot of things like fucking over Bernie and how much media coverage is against Trump in every way. In fact many in the news and media industry SUPPORT Hillary openly and fund her, which IMO means they should not be allowed to cover media about the presidential elections if they are that biased. These two things are against any other candidate but Hillary.

But Trump dug his own hole as well, why this one statement triggered the firestorm and none of his other ones did I will never know.
They cover him more than Hillary because of the asinine things he says
they cover him more because the media has extreme liberal bias so covering real news like all the leaks, deaths of informants, bill Clinton rape accusations ect wouldn't fit the narrative they're trying to force upon the masses

Hokay buddy.

I saw MSNBC yesterday talking about Clinton's emails, and they're as liberal as you can get. But it's so much easier to think it's "them against us".