They basically rigged the panel in order for this to pass - members expected to vote "no" were replaced. If someone could explain to me how that's not corruption, pure and simple, I'd be interested to hear.Some background, for the scientifically-minded or the just plain curious: hCG (human chorionic gonadotropin) is produced by the placenta after implantation; its function is to prevent the corpus luteum from atrophying, so that progesterone can be continually secreted throughout the first trimester. In sensitive urine tests (which usually employ a monocloidal antibody specific to a particular subunit of hCG), it's detectable about ~2 weeks after conception.The fetal heartbeat is detectable (e.g. by vaginal ultrasound) around 5-6 weeks post-conception.That gives a woman who's pregnant and wants an abortion 3-4 weeks. What if her birth control failed due to antibiotics? What if she wasn't trying to conceive, so by the time she realizes she's pregnant, it's too late, and she can't get an abortion? Not to mention, the supporters apparently want it to make it to the Supreme Court, with the hopes that Roe v. Wade could be challenged and overturned.Oh, and the bill does not allow for abortion in the case of rape or incest.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2014/11/20/heartbeat-bill-committee.htmlquoted from a reddit post:QuoteThey basically rigged the panel in order for this to pass - members expected to vote "no" were replaced. If someone could explain to me how that's not corruption, pure and simple, I'd be interested to hear.Some background, for the scientifically-minded or the just plain curious: hCG (human chorionic gonadotropin) is produced by the placenta after implantation; its function is to prevent the corpus luteum from atrophying, so that progesterone can be continually secreted throughout the first trimester. In sensitive urine tests (which usually employ a monocloidal antibody specific to a particular subunit of hCG), it's detectable about ~2 weeks after conception.The fetal heartbeat is detectable (e.g. by vaginal ultrasound) around 5-6 weeks post-conception.That gives a woman who's pregnant and wants an abortion 3-4 weeks. What if her birth control failed due to antibiotics? What if she wasn't trying to conceive, so by the time she realizes she's pregnant, it's too late, and she can't get an abortion? Not to mention, the supporters apparently want it to make it to the Supreme Court, with the hopes that Roe v. Wade could be challenged and overturned.Oh, and the bill does not allow for abortion in the case of rape or incest.What the fuck, Ohio?
oh no! The vote didn't go the way I wanted! Its rigged!!!
A bill to ban abortions in Ohio once a fetal heartbeat is detected passed a House committee yesterday after Republican leaders altered the panel to ensure passage.
bill does not allow for abortion in the case of rape or incest.
Quotebill does not allow for abortion in the case of rape or incest.Like, what the fuck?
Quote from: PSU on November 21, 2014, 11:49:35 AMoh no! The vote didn't go the way I wanted! Its rigged!!!I mean, I know you're just being a dick, but the vote actually was rigged. First line of the article:QuoteA bill to ban abortions in Ohio once a fetal heartbeat is detected passed a House committee yesterday after Republican leaders altered the panel to ensure passage.
Quote from: Kinder on November 21, 2014, 12:31:39 PMQuotebill does not allow for abortion in the case of rape or incest.Like, what the fuck?her body has a way of shutting all that down, mang
Quote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 21, 2014, 12:37:10 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 21, 2014, 12:31:39 PMQuotebill does not allow for abortion in the case of rape or incest.Like, what the fuck?her body has a way of shutting all that down, mangWell that is partially true.
Rape conception happens between 25,000 and 32,000 times each year in the U.S. In a three-year longitudinal study of 4,000 American women, physician Melisa Holmes estimated from data from her study that forced sexual intercourse causes over 32,000 pregnancies in the United States each year
Quote from: PSU on November 21, 2014, 12:38:10 PMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 21, 2014, 12:37:10 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 21, 2014, 12:31:39 PMQuotebill does not allow for abortion in the case of rape or incest.Like, what the fuck?her body has a way of shutting all that down, mangWell that is partially true.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy_from_rapeQuote Rape conception happens between 25,000 and 32,000 times each year in the U.S. In a three-year longitudinal study of 4,000 American women, physician Melisa Holmes estimated from data from her study that forced sexual intercourse causes over 32,000 pregnancies in the United States each yearHolmes, Melisa M.; Resnick, Heidi S.; Kilpatrick, Dean G.; Best, Connie L. (1996). "Rape-related pregnancy: Estimates and descriptive characteristics from a national sample of women". American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology 175 (2): 320–4; discussion 324–5.
Quote from: Mad Max on November 21, 2014, 12:28:15 PMQuote from: PSU on November 21, 2014, 11:49:35 AMoh no! The vote didn't go the way I wanted! Its rigged!!!I mean, I know you're just being a dick, but the vote actually was rigged. First line of the article:QuoteA bill to ban abortions in Ohio once a fetal heartbeat is detected passed a House committee yesterday after Republican leaders altered the panel to ensure passage.Yep just because an article says it, it must be true!
Quote from: Kinder on November 21, 2014, 12:44:12 PMQuote from: PSU on November 21, 2014, 12:38:10 PMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 21, 2014, 12:37:10 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 21, 2014, 12:31:39 PMQuotebill does not allow for abortion in the case of rape or incest.Like, what the fuck?her body has a way of shutting all that down, mangWell that is partially true.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy_from_rapeQuote Rape conception happens between 25,000 and 32,000 times each year in the U.S. In a three-year longitudinal study of 4,000 American women, physician Melisa Holmes estimated from data from her study that forced sexual intercourse causes over 32,000 pregnancies in the United States each yearHolmes, Melisa M.; Resnick, Heidi S.; Kilpatrick, Dean G.; Best, Connie L. (1996). "Rape-related pregnancy: Estimates and descriptive characteristics from a national sample of women". American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology 175 (2): 320–4; discussion 324–5.god's will, brah
Quote from: Kinder on November 21, 2014, 12:47:18 PMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 21, 2014, 12:45:35 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 21, 2014, 12:44:12 PMQuote from: PSU on November 21, 2014, 12:38:10 PMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 21, 2014, 12:37:10 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 21, 2014, 12:31:39 PMQuotebill does not allow for abortion in the case of rape or incest.Like, what the fuck?her body has a way of shutting all that down, mangWell that is partially true.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy_from_rapeQuote Rape conception happens between 25,000 and 32,000 times each year in the U.S. In a three-year longitudinal study of 4,000 American women, physician Melisa Holmes estimated from data from her study that forced sexual intercourse causes over 32,000 pregnancies in the United States each yearHolmes, Melisa M.; Resnick, Heidi S.; Kilpatrick, Dean G.; Best, Connie L. (1996). "Rape-related pregnancy: Estimates and descriptive characteristics from a national sample of women". American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology 175 (2): 320–4; discussion 324–5.god's will, brahGod created free will. He didn't make a person commit rape, rape was made by the individual and individual onlyThis is the Serious forum.
Quote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 21, 2014, 12:45:35 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 21, 2014, 12:44:12 PMQuote from: PSU on November 21, 2014, 12:38:10 PMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 21, 2014, 12:37:10 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 21, 2014, 12:31:39 PMQuotebill does not allow for abortion in the case of rape or incest.Like, what the fuck?her body has a way of shutting all that down, mangWell that is partially true.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy_from_rapeQuote Rape conception happens between 25,000 and 32,000 times each year in the U.S. In a three-year longitudinal study of 4,000 American women, physician Melisa Holmes estimated from data from her study that forced sexual intercourse causes over 32,000 pregnancies in the United States each yearHolmes, Melisa M.; Resnick, Heidi S.; Kilpatrick, Dean G.; Best, Connie L. (1996). "Rape-related pregnancy: Estimates and descriptive characteristics from a national sample of women". American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology 175 (2): 320–4; discussion 324–5.god's will, brahGod created free will. He didn't make a person commit rape, rape was made by the individual and individual only
Six weeks isn't enough time to know you are pregnant?
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/11/16465141-gop-congressman-akins-rape-comments-were-partly-right?lite
Right, Kinder, Challenger if you're gonna start shit flinging again you'll both be banned, this is your only warning.
Quote from: PSU on November 21, 2014, 01:00:02 PMhttp://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/11/16465141-gop-congressman-akins-rape-comments-were-partly-right?liteMax, please get off of this alt.
Ohio's new abortion bill in the works
