Official General Election thread

wait so which houses represent the other parties?

Tories are Lannisters.
Labour are Starks.
Lib Dems are Tyrells.
SNP are Wildlings.

SNP are Wildlings.

pftt LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

I mean, a tory victory is probably a good thing for the economy to not get crashed into the ground (austerity is a bitch but it looks like it's actually worked) but I just hope they keep their filthy paws off the NHS >_>

Attempting to even think about scrapping the NHS would be both literal and political suicide for the Tories. Hell, UKIP of all parties, have pledged to increase NHS spending by an extra Β£3 billion. All parties pretty much know that maintaining the NHS is absolutely paramount for winning votes.

Still, I don't think it's wrong to cut down on bureaucracy and tweak PFI contracts, because right now the NHS is far from perfect. Unfortunately the left tend to misconstrue that as "FOK PRIVATIZATION" which immediately shuts down any kind of conversation about the possibility of improving the NHS.

I'd hopefully like to see more competition within the NHS and adopt a dual funded system (like pretty much the majority of Europe has at this point) in my lifetime.

If it remains free (At the point of access) then that's what really counts for me, well not me personally but the idea of the system. Insurance based healthcare and pay to see your GP/Shrink stuff really really rustles my jimmies. If they can find ways to improve services, whilst maintaining the 'Pay your taxes -> Healthcare for everyone' system then that's fine. What I don't like is the creep towards privatisation and some of the bright sparks who say things like 'Let's make people pay Β£10 to see their GP'.

If they sorted their shit out when it came to staffing, so they weren't blowing money down the drain constantly on locums then I doubt the NHS would be in such a mess financially. They do an important job, but they rob the bank while they do it. Paying private sector nurses and doctors a disgusting amount of money to cover up the holes in staff isn't something I like to see happen, we need more NHS staff trained in the UK who then remain here rather than swanning off somewhere else.

And I guess the real axe to grind I have with cuts in the NHS is how disproportionately hard the mental healthcare system gets hit. More cuts = More people left untreated = More people out of work/on benefits, so until that's fixed I'm not to happy with the way they have been bleeding it dry.

the lib dems are basically the starks at the red wedding
pew pew pew

wait so which houses represent the other parties?

Tories = Lannisters. Strongest and most based party. Losing some of their momentum though.

Labour = Targaryens. Once a great dynasty but lost it spectacularly. Lead by an inbred.

SNP = Greyjoys. Always moaning about what's rightfully theirs without actually fucking doing anything.

Greens = Martells. Delusional and le progressive :^) niggers.

UKIP = Baratheons. Both lead by a man who will save the country.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the NHS has always been a financial mess since year one. It isn't sustainable.

2ND TORY SEAT

as a US citizen im jealous the UK has enough parties to make a Game of Thrones comparison.

fucking putney man

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the NHS has always been a financial mess since year one. It isn't sustainable.

Well yeah, but it's meant to be a service provided to the population funded by other means.
The benefits of having a healthy working population thus paying taxes is where I think the NHS pays it's own, just not in terms of direct treasury wonga.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the NHS has always been a financial mess since year one. It isn't sustainable.

Well yeah, but it's meant to be a service provided to the population funded by other means.
The benefits of having a healthy working population thus paying taxes is where I think the NHS pays it's own, just not in terms of direct treasury wonga.

Surely, if it pays for itself, you'd expect a steadily increasing share of the economy in terms of funding to translate into a steadily increasing standard of healthcare. And yet pretty much all credible studies by the likes of the OECD or the ECHI throw us down to the bottom.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the NHS has always been a financial mess since year one. It isn't sustainable.

Well yeah, but it's meant to be a service provided to the population funded by other means.
The benefits of having a healthy working population thus paying taxes is where I think the NHS pays it's own, just not in terms of direct treasury wonga.

Surely, if it pays for itself, you'd expect a steadily increasing share of the economy in terms of funding to translate into a steadily increasing standard of healthcare. And yet pretty much all credible studies by the likes of the OECD or the ECHI throw us down to the bottom.

Well, not necessarily. Keeping more of the population healthy doesn't quite mean that the economy is going to grow I'd say it's more about keeping it at a happy stasis, then other means grow the economy proper.

Don't get me wrong, the NHS is pretty shitty and there is a lot that needs doing to sort it out. I just don't think replacing it with a yank system is a good idea at all, making it more efficient is fine provided that it doesn't negatively impact the standard of care.

If partial privatisation is kept to a limit, where it's used to trim the fat and make it work better (Like that hospital that was circling the drain, I forget the name of it but you linked it here a while back) then that's fine, I don't have a problem with delivering better care because that's just downright silly. What I don't want to see is that then used as a springboard to argue for privatising the NHS further and reversing the system of free universal healthcare <_<

Keeping more of the population healthy doesn't quite mean that the economy is going to grow

I'm not saying that, I'm saying the NHS has constantly swallowed up a larger and larger share of the economy since its inception.

Fuck, Labour just took a marginal.

Looks like the Kippers bolted back to the Tories at the last minute.

fok labour creeping up there

fok labour creeping up there

STILL GOT 300 TO GO YET M80

the lib dems are basically the starks at the red wedding
pew pew pew

wait so which houses represent the other parties?

Con - Lannister
Lab - Tyrell
SNP - Targyrean
UKIP - Grejoy
LibDem - Stark
Green - Mormont
George Galloway - STANNIS!

the lib dems are basically the starks at the red wedding
pew pew pew

wait so which houses represent the other parties?

Con - Lannister
Lab - Tyrell
SNP - Targyrean
UKIP - Grejoy
LibDem - Stark
Green - Mormont
George Galloway - STANNIS!

>angry little manlet that got btfo by a jew
>comparing him to stannis

get out of my face

Labour got BTFO that Battersea marginal

First actual seat from NI just announced. DUP got Lagan Vally.

6 seats and only 50,000 votes ahead of Tories

Vote Tories get Labour guys :^)

Tories took another Labour target.

She couldn't have fulfilled the stereotype of the average Green voter any better if she tried.

Keeping more of the population healthy doesn't quite mean that the economy is going to grow

I'm not saying that, I'm saying the NHS has constantly swallowed up a larger and larger share of the economy since its inception.

Hmm, well I guess that is a bit more problematic then. Is it to do with the expanded services as opposed to basic ones at launch? (Sounds like a bloody product demo worded like that lol)

"Cannabis is safer than Alcohol" was a party running in West Tyrone LMAO

Looks like the Kippers bolted back to the Tories at the last minute.

And thank the sultanate for that, if farage loses to that comedian though... lawdy that would be too good.

SDLP got their first seat of the night

SF finally joined the party
DUP got 2 so far. 3rd largest party so far.

Holy shit that Tory cheer in Bedworth

Daily reminder we could've had freedom.