Obama asks Congress for war powers against ISIS

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http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/obamas-isis-war-powers-request-heads-congress-n304316

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Obama's ISIS War Powers Request Heads to Congress President Barack Obama on Wednesday formally asked lawmakers for a three-year authorization for the use of force against ISIS.

The broad outline sent to Capitol Hill prohibits "enduring offensive ground forces" and limits engagement to three years. The White House hopes that the limitations will assuage the concerns of skeptics on both sides of the aisle who are wary of another conflict in the Middle East, while offering broad enough language to facilitate the demise of the terror organization.   

In a letter accompanying the document, Obama emphasized that the draft proposal "would not authorize long-term, large-scale ground combat operations like those our Nation conducted in Iraq and Afghanistan."

"Local forces, rather than U.S. military forces, should be deployed to conduct such operations," he wrote. "The authorization I propose would provide the flexibility to conduct ground combat operations in other, more limited circumstances, such as rescue operations involving U.S. or coalition personnel or the use of special operations forces to take military action against ISIL leadership."

Congress has not approved such authorization for the use of force since 2002, when George W. Bush pushed for strikes in Iraq.

Senate Democrats were briefed on the plans Tuesday by White House Counsel Neil Eggleston.
Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois said that some Democrats are concerned that the term "enduring offensive ground operations" might be too vague.

"What does it mean, how long, how big is 'enduring'? 'Offensive,' what's 'offensive' when it comes to the Department of Defense? And 'ground operations,' I guess that's a little easier to describe," he told reporters after the briefing. "But we have some legitimate questions about whether we open this up with a loophole that could lead to another major war."

GOP Sen. Bob Corker, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said in a statement that "rigorous hearings" will soon begin "where the administration will have an opportunity to provide Congress and the American people greater clarity on the U.S. strategy to address ISIS, particularly in Syria." 

Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine, a Democrat who has sometimes clashed with the president on war powers issues, said in a statement that he supports the draft measure's repeal of the 2002 authorization and the three-year sunset. "But," he added, "I am concerned about the breadth and vagueness of the U.S. ground troop language and will seek to clarify it."
Last Edit: February 11, 2015, 09:17:39 AM by Kupo


 
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Sounds good, hopefully a good old fashioned blitzkrieg will wipe enough of them out >______>

Really though, if ISIS is drawing jihadis from across the globe then this is a good thing. Concentrate them all in one place, then blow them sky high.


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>Going to war against an organization like ISIS

lmao

It's like the US learned absolutely nothing from the Taliban and Al Qaeda


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>Going to war against an organization like ISIS

lmao

It's like the US learned absolutely nothing from the Taliban and Al Qaeda
That was my first thought, but... ISIS seems a bit more unhinged than either of those groups. The latest news is that they're getting some 20,000 fighters joining them from abroad, and that's something to be concerned about.


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The more infrastructure and organization ISIS develops, the more susceptible they are to conventional warfare. But still, it's hard to fight an ideal.


 
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>Going to war against an organization like ISIS

lmao

It's like the US learned absolutely nothing from the Taliban and Al Qaeda
You say that as if we didn't accomplish our mission of severely reducing the offensive capabilities of AQAP while damaging further growth of the organization.


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More than 2 bombs was needed

Depends on the size of the bomb.





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More than 2 bombs was needed

Depends on the size of the bomb.


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FYI, so if this gets authorized according to the NY Times it will last 3-years.


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So long as America remembers that war is supposed to be a thing where you destroy your enemies, bring people in for war crimes, and then GET OUT, then I support it. The moment it turns into Iraq/Afghanistan 2.0 where we try to nation build (which we can never do) is when we lose.


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bring people in for war crimes
Considering Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld aren't locked up, I doubt that'll ever happen.


 
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It's about time.

We never should've left Iraq when we did.
Yeah but at the same time, we obviously didn't know wtf we were doing and were just sadly getting people killed for no clear objective.

America's never been good at nation building. Regardless of which side of the war you're for, we can all agree we should learn from the obvious mistakes.


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bring people in for war crimes
Considering Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld aren't locked up, I doubt that'll ever happen.
You have a twisted sense of justice if you think people should be locked up despite committing no crimes.


 
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