Nothing about the #DNCLeaks?

MyNameIsCharlie · July 23, 2016, 09:50:46 PM

Quote from: Icy on July 23, 2016, 09:35:11 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on July 23, 2016, 09:31:51 PM
The biggest issue here is voter disenfranchisement. Bernie and Trump get the support they do because too many Americans feel the system is rigged. Stuff like this proves them right. It's hard to say what the fallout will be. Some may go and vote against Hillary just to show their displeasure. They may give up on the system entirely. Who knows?

Voter disenfranchisement isn't the right word - that implies people are being prevented from voting. Voter dilution is a better choice; certain groups of people are discouraged, but not prevented.

But yes, this isn't a shock

Fair enough

Now we'll see how well Trump can play this.

big sponge · July 23, 2016, 10:10:53 PM

Way to go, you posted in depth post primary break downs and a guy saying that if you include the super delegates they're less than 70 apart.

That doesn't change the fact that the day to day reporting on the delegate counts had no mention of super delegates anywhere in them and only consisted of the normal delegates.

While I don't have pictures of news broadcasts from 8 years ago (because I don't have the ability to see 8 years into the future) I do have the chair of the DNC going on to MSNBC and putting them ( and the rest of the media) on blast for their inaccurate reporting on the primary this cycle and how they may have skewed the results by including the super delegates in their totals this time.

It would have been nice of her to do that at the start of the primary instead of near the end. But she's a shill for Hilllary so it's not surprising that she wanted to milk that cow for all it was worth before taking it out back and putting it down.

Alternative Facts · July 23, 2016, 10:19:01 PM

Quote from: LC on July 23, 2016, 10:10:53 PM

Way to go, you posted in depth post primary break downs and a guy saying that if you include the super delegates they're less than 70 apart.

That doesn't change the fact that the day to day reporting on the delegate counts had no mention of super delegates anywhere in them and only consisted of the normal delegates.

You keep saying this, yet have nothing to back it up. And yet every single example you can find includes superdelegates to the total. It doesn't matter what organization you go to, that is how it is. Just because it doesn't fit your narrative doesn't make it true.

Quote from: LC on July 23, 2016, 10:10:53 PM

While I don't have pictures of news broadcasts from 8 years ago (because I don't have the ability to see 8 years into the future)

Images and reports from 8 years ago exist, I found them. If you are right about this, find something to show that superdelegates weren't included in news reports then. The web pages and stories are still out there. Because until you do, it's just your word.

Or keep spinning what I've showed you as wrong. That's up to you.

Quote from: LC on July 23, 2016, 10:10:53 PM

I do have the chair of the DNC going on to MSNBC and putting them ( and the rest of the media) on blast for their inaccurate reporting on the primary this cycle and how they may have skewed the results by including the super delegates in their totals this time.

Because there surely wasn't an alternative reason to act upset with the media. None at all

big sponge · July 24, 2016, 12:23:18 AM

If you have proof that super delegates were always put in with the normal delegates then on broadcast television then post it. Prancing around and saying I have proof, but I'm not going to show you does nothing for me.

I went looking for your proof for you and I could not find any picture evidence of anything like what happened in this primary cycle. Super delegates were either in their own chart/graph, off to the side of the normal delegate count, or were listed along with the normal delegate total and a combine total. There were no regularly broadcast delegate trackers that refused to disclose that it was a combine total by just listing it as delegates or refusing to separate the totals and only listing the combined total with no indication as to how the totals shook out.

And if you don't think that how information is presented has an effect on how people perceive it you're foolish.

That being said you've successfully distracted us from the main point here. At the time it was called Hillary did not yet have the magic number of pledged delegates (not super delegates) to secure the nomination. Does this mean that Bernie had a shot at winning? No, Bernie never had a shot at winning. There was no way the DNC was going to allow Hillary to lose this again. They've put too much into her to let that happen. Bernie would have need to get like 70-80% of the CA vote to have a chance and there was no way that would realistically happen.

cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · July 26, 2016, 07:30:14 PM

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Mr. Psychologist · July 26, 2016, 07:44:57 PM

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Rotten to the core, may the god-emperor deliver you all from crooked hillary

DAS B00T x2 · July 26, 2016, 07:56:21 PM

there is no defending this institution. We deserve better.

Azumarill · July 26, 2016, 09:28:58 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 26, 2016, 07:56:21 PM

We deserve better.

we allowed this to happen. we dont deserve better.

DAS B00T x2 · July 26, 2016, 09:30:00 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on July 26, 2016, 09:28:58 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 26, 2016, 07:56:21 PM
We deserve better.
we allowed this to happen. we dont deserve better.

True enough. This is what we get for siding with the bad guys in ol' WWII.

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · July 26, 2016, 10:16:04 PM

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Luciana · July 26, 2016, 10:27:57 PM

Quote from: E S O T E R IC on July 26, 2016, 10:16:04 PM

Any other society would be stringing these people up in the streets right now.

How far the west has fallen.

Idk man

Turkey is pretty much sucking Sultan Erdoğan's cock

Elai · July 26, 2016, 10:33:09 PM

Absolutely disgusting.

The Lord Ruler · July 26, 2016, 11:32:18 PM

Quote from: challengerX on July 23, 2016, 05:44:34 PM

Did you think I'd forgotten, Donald?

For a thousand years I have waited, watched in dejection as you made your pitiful country great again. I hope you enjoyed yourself. I really do.

Because in the time that you were president, I have amassed a great and terrible army of of
skeleton delegates - skelegates, if you will, Donald.

Without you around to ward off the forces of Chaos, I can finally escape from my prison. You just made your first mistake, Donald. Now I can return to that fateful night in 2016 and claim what is rightfully mine!

Together with my army of skelegates, I will finally have the majority I need to become the Republican nominee, and fight a principled conservative campaign for President. Nothing will stand in our way. Goodbye, Donald. Your New York ways will taint the Party no longer.

This is the priesthood rising! With my new powers, I will plunge this country into TEN THOUSAND YEARS of darkness, and the delegates...they will be at my side every step of the way. Thank you, Donald.

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ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · July 26, 2016, 11:32:50 PM

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Flee · July 27, 2016, 03:55:53 AM

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Elai · July 27, 2016, 04:00:44 AM

Quote from: Flee on July 27, 2016, 03:55:53 AM

Quote from: d e e p g o o d s on July 26, 2016, 07:30:14 PM
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP LMAO
Clearly, people more or less can. As much as I disagree with these practices within the DNC, a lot of those simply are wrong and don't describe the contents of the emails correctly. I know it's not your own list because I've seen it before, but that's the power of quantity. People compile so much information that they know no one will actually take the time to fact check it.

For example, the killing horses one? Sounds great when you spin it in a way that makes it sound like the DNC is murdering animals to get insurance money. But if you'd actually read the email, you'll see that it's a conversation between DNC staff members about vetting a potential donor. After doing their research, they found that this man (who has zero ties with the DNC) was found guilty of fraud and killed his horses for insurance money, which caused them to actually reject him as a potential donor.

The black name one? If you look at the email, you can see it's not actually the DNC mocking it, but instead a random person employed by a consulting firm they worked with when organizing an LGBT event.

So which ones demonstrate actual corruption within the DNC?

Flee · July 27, 2016, 04:17:16 AM

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