Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on April 05, 2015, 10:02:48 AMHeadline: "Republicans are trying to ban poor people from buying meat and seafood!"Reality: A Republican is trying to restrict EBT users from buying stuff like filet mignon and crab legs.K. This is a non-issue, there already tons of things that you can't buy with EBT.Where's the proof they are buying filet mignon and crab legs?
Headline: "Republicans are trying to ban poor people from buying meat and seafood!"Reality: A Republican is trying to restrict EBT users from buying stuff like filet mignon and crab legs.K. This is a non-issue, there already tons of things that you can't buy with EBT.
I say they can, but it should take up a lot of the allocated "food points" given.Be king for a day if they wish, but endure weeks of canned beans and rain water afterwards.
I bet you're the same dude who balks at raising the minimum wage, huh?
Quote from: Mad Max on April 05, 2015, 07:08:47 PMI bet you're the same dude who balks at raising the minimum wage, huh?Everybody should.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on April 07, 2015, 07:26:07 AMQuote from: Mad Max on April 05, 2015, 07:08:47 PMI bet you're the same dude who balks at raising the minimum wage, huh?Everybody should.Wrong. The minimum wage (in America) is at the same point as it was in the 1960's while the cost of living has skyrocketed. This in turn causes more people to be on welfare, more crime, more desperation, less hope (which means not preparing for or caring about the future), resulting in a weaker country. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that those living on minimum wage shouldn't be taxed. Unless there are several people in the family working minimum wage, in which case the tax should be 5% max.
In fact, I'd go so far as to say that those living on minimum wage shouldn't be taxed.
Quote from: Prime Meridia on April 07, 2015, 10:30:44 AMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:10:42 AMQuote from: Meta Cognition on April 07, 2015, 07:26:07 AMQuote from: Mad Max on April 05, 2015, 07:08:47 PMI bet you're the same dude who balks at raising the minimum wage, huh?Everybody should.Wrong. The minimum wage (in America) is at the same point as it was in the 1960's while the cost of living has skyrocketed. This in turn causes more people to be on welfare, more crime, more desperation, less hope (which means not preparing for or caring about the future), resulting in a weaker country. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that those living on minimum wage shouldn't be taxed. Unless there are several people in the family working minimum wage, in which case the tax should be 5% max.Minimum wage is already in the lowest tax bracket.No shit. Really?
Quote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:10:42 AMQuote from: Meta Cognition on April 07, 2015, 07:26:07 AMQuote from: Mad Max on April 05, 2015, 07:08:47 PMI bet you're the same dude who balks at raising the minimum wage, huh?Everybody should.Wrong. The minimum wage (in America) is at the same point as it was in the 1960's while the cost of living has skyrocketed. This in turn causes more people to be on welfare, more crime, more desperation, less hope (which means not preparing for or caring about the future), resulting in a weaker country. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that those living on minimum wage shouldn't be taxed. Unless there are several people in the family working minimum wage, in which case the tax should be 5% max.Minimum wage is already in the lowest tax bracket.
QuoteFor example, I pay 12% tax. That's for a full year; if I averaged 20 hours a week vs 30, I wouldn't pay anything in tax.And you should be able to work 40 hours a week without paying any taxes if you live by yourself.
For example, I pay 12% tax. That's for a full year; if I averaged 20 hours a week vs 30, I wouldn't pay anything in tax.
Taxes are too damn high.
Quote from: Prime Meridia on April 07, 2015, 10:46:29 AMThanks for the condescending response,I think you telling me that is condescending. Everybody knows that. I obviously know that, otherwise I wouldn't be fucking talking about tax brackets.
Thanks for the condescending response,
Quoteit is a very important part of the discussion. I'm saying that minimum wage works already pay the lowest amount of tax possible, and have the potential to pay absolutely no federal tax.I know this. But it's still not enough.
it is a very important part of the discussion. I'm saying that minimum wage works already pay the lowest amount of tax possible, and have the potential to pay absolutely no federal tax.
Quote from: Mad Max on April 07, 2015, 10:58:17 AMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:54:13 AMTaxes are too damn high.We can't claim that taxes are too high while simultaneously complaining about the government's debt. Taxes are their sources of revenue, and taxes are almost historically low right now.I don't give a fuck about the debt and you shouldn't either.
Quote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:54:13 AMTaxes are too damn high.We can't claim that taxes are too high while simultaneously complaining about the government's debt. Taxes are their sources of revenue, and taxes are almost historically low right now.
Quote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:59:17 AMQuote from: Mad Max on April 07, 2015, 10:58:17 AMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:54:13 AMTaxes are too damn high.We can't claim that taxes are too high while simultaneously complaining about the government's debt. Taxes are their sources of revenue, and taxes are almost historically low right now.I don't give a fuck about the debt and you shouldn't either.I'd love to not give a shit about the debt. Why shouldn't I? Honest question.
Quote from: Mad Max on April 07, 2015, 11:08:37 AMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:59:17 AMQuote from: Mad Max on April 07, 2015, 10:58:17 AMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:54:13 AMTaxes are too damn high.We can't claim that taxes are too high while simultaneously complaining about the government's debt. Taxes are their sources of revenue, and taxes are almost historically low right now.I don't give a fuck about the debt and you shouldn't either.I'd love to not give a shit about the debt. Why shouldn't I? Honest question.There's literally no reason that the US should pay back its debt. Ever. Like, the US has zero incentive to give a single shit about that debt.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on April 07, 2015, 11:09:55 AMQuote from: Mad Max on April 07, 2015, 11:08:37 AMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:59:17 AMQuote from: Mad Max on April 07, 2015, 10:58:17 AMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:54:13 AMTaxes are too damn high.We can't claim that taxes are too high while simultaneously complaining about the government's debt. Taxes are their sources of revenue, and taxes are almost historically low right now.I don't give a fuck about the debt and you shouldn't either.I'd love to not give a shit about the debt. Why shouldn't I? Honest question.There's literally no reason that the US should pay back its debt. Ever. Like, the US has zero incentive to give a single shit about that debt.That..doesn't really clear anything up. Would paying off a good portion of our debt not have a significant benefit?
Quote from: Mad Max on April 07, 2015, 11:15:04 AMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on April 07, 2015, 11:09:55 AMQuote from: Mad Max on April 07, 2015, 11:08:37 AMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:59:17 AMQuote from: Mad Max on April 07, 2015, 10:58:17 AMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:54:13 AMTaxes are too damn high.We can't claim that taxes are too high while simultaneously complaining about the government's debt. Taxes are their sources of revenue, and taxes are almost historically low right now.I don't give a fuck about the debt and you shouldn't either.I'd love to not give a shit about the debt. Why shouldn't I? Honest question.There's literally no reason that the US should pay back its debt. Ever. Like, the US has zero incentive to give a single shit about that debt.That..doesn't really clear anything up. Would paying off a good portion of our debt not have a significant benefit?It would not. Which is why the US has no reason to pay off its debt.
Say we scrap the minimum wage, there's a huge risk of employees being abusedand not being given a fair wage. Unless they put a system in place to make sure that doesn't happen.
Quote from: Mad Max on April 07, 2015, 11:08:37 AMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:59:17 AMQuote from: Mad Max on April 07, 2015, 10:58:17 AMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:54:13 AMTaxes are too damn high.We can't claim that taxes are too high while simultaneously complaining about the government's debt. Taxes are their sources of revenue, and taxes are almost historically low right now.I don't give a fuck about the debt and you shouldn't either.I'd love to not give a shit about the debt. Why shouldn't I? Honest question.It has no impact on the country's economy in such a way that actually hinders growth and prosperity. America can have a strong economy and steep debt.
Quote from: Mad Max on April 07, 2015, 02:26:55 PMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 11:19:01 AMQuote from: Mad Max on April 07, 2015, 11:08:37 AMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:59:17 AMQuote from: Mad Max on April 07, 2015, 10:58:17 AMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:54:13 AMTaxes are too damn high.We can't claim that taxes are too high while simultaneously complaining about the government's debt. Taxes are their sources of revenue, and taxes are almost historically low right now.I don't give a fuck about the debt and you shouldn't either.I'd love to not give a shit about the debt. Why shouldn't I? Honest question.It has no impact on the country's economy in such a way that actually hinders growth and prosperity. America can have a strong economy and steep debt.So I have just fallen victim to the red herring of being worried about the debt, is all?Pretty much. Folks are all spazzing out at the debt from fear mongering politicians (mostly republicans) and there's just isn't that much to be worrying about.
Quote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 11:19:01 AMQuote from: Mad Max on April 07, 2015, 11:08:37 AMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:59:17 AMQuote from: Mad Max on April 07, 2015, 10:58:17 AMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 10:54:13 AMTaxes are too damn high.We can't claim that taxes are too high while simultaneously complaining about the government's debt. Taxes are their sources of revenue, and taxes are almost historically low right now.I don't give a fuck about the debt and you shouldn't either.I'd love to not give a shit about the debt. Why shouldn't I? Honest question.It has no impact on the country's economy in such a way that actually hinders growth and prosperity. America can have a strong economy and steep debt.So I have just fallen victim to the red herring of being worried about the debt, is all?
Pretty much. Folks are all spazzing out at the debt from fear mongering politicians (mostly republicans) and there's just isn't that much to be worrying about.
Quote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 02:28:59 PMPretty much. Folks are all spazzing out at the debt from fear mongering politicians (mostly republicans) and there's just isn't that much to be worrying about.I don't understand, is the US just not going to pay it's debts?? Surely they need the funds from somewhere to pay it off. Elaborate pls
Quote from: gats on April 07, 2015, 03:27:34 PMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 02:28:59 PMPretty much. Folks are all spazzing out at the debt from fear mongering politicians (mostly republicans) and there's just isn't that much to be worrying about.I don't understand, is the US just not going to pay it's debts?? Surely they need the funds from somewhere to pay it off. Elaborate plsHistorically the debt has spiked during times of war (like now) and then lowers during times peace or less military involvement.