Kek.
This mischaracterizes what happened at the school -- but Trump doesn't have the power to cut these funds unilaterally anyway
The point of this btw is that there were many apologists in Germany at the time going "oh free speech isn't bad", and many didn't take what he said seriously. The moral of the story is that free speech should not = 100% unadulterated content, because a lot of the stuff you say, MUCH of which is fascism these days, is horrible and toxic, and a lot of people start believing and following this stuff.
The difference between his quote and what's going on today though is that there is a huge vocal resistance to the beliefs of the Alt-Right. Allowing Milo to speak isn't humbling accepting his beliefs and offering no resistance. Especially since he would be in a location full of people who are more than willing to verbally attack him and his beliefs (and from the looks of it, do more than just verbal-attacks). Free Speech is a two way street and Milo doesn't have a shield from comments against him. Quote from: Luciana on February 02, 2017, 01:51:51 PMThe point of this btw is that there were many apologists in Germany at the time going "oh free speech isn't bad", and many didn't take what he said seriously. The moral of the story is that free speech should not = 100% unadulterated content, because a lot of the stuff you say, MUCH of which is fascism these days, is horrible and toxic, and a lot of people start believing and following this stuff.
Quote from: Luciana on February 02, 2017, 01:49:48 PMQuote from: Nasty Turkey. SAD! on February 02, 2017, 01:31:43 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2017, 01:27:15 PMI should also add if these people legit got violent and broke stuff, it sort of invalidates their entire stance on being against him, because they look like the monsters, and he doesn't.tbh I don't really agree with this. They got done what they wanted accomplished, and as long as they didn't hurt anyone and stand accountable for their crimes, I'd say they were pretty effective.No it's just. People will focus on the things they messed up and not the thing they were protesting, and it just helps paint them in a bad light.It's exactly why people like MLK and Gandhi never did such things.Gandhi was a racist and MLK was a Christian.
Quote from: Nasty Turkey. SAD! on February 02, 2017, 01:31:43 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2017, 01:27:15 PMI should also add if these people legit got violent and broke stuff, it sort of invalidates their entire stance on being against him, because they look like the monsters, and he doesn't.tbh I don't really agree with this. They got done what they wanted accomplished, and as long as they didn't hurt anyone and stand accountable for their crimes, I'd say they were pretty effective.No it's just. People will focus on the things they messed up and not the thing they were protesting, and it just helps paint them in a bad light.It's exactly why people like MLK and Gandhi never did such things.
Quote from: Luciana on February 02, 2017, 01:27:15 PMI should also add if these people legit got violent and broke stuff, it sort of invalidates their entire stance on being against him, because they look like the monsters, and he doesn't.tbh I don't really agree with this. They got done what they wanted accomplished, and as long as they didn't hurt anyone and stand accountable for their crimes, I'd say they were pretty effective.
I should also add if these people legit got violent and broke stuff, it sort of invalidates their entire stance on being against him, because they look like the monsters, and he doesn't.
Quote from: Luciana on February 02, 2017, 02:19:05 PMQuote from: challengerX on February 02, 2017, 02:05:28 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2017, 01:49:48 PMQuote from: Nasty Turkey. SAD! on February 02, 2017, 01:31:43 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2017, 01:27:15 PMI should also add if these people legit got violent and broke stuff, it sort of invalidates their entire stance on being against him, because they look like the monsters, and he doesn't.tbh I don't really agree with this. They got done what they wanted accomplished, and as long as they didn't hurt anyone and stand accountable for their crimes, I'd say they were pretty effective.No it's just. People will focus on the things they messed up and not the thing they were protesting, and it just helps paint them in a bad light.It's exactly why people like MLK and Gandhi never did such things.Gandhi was a racist and MLK was a Christian.Yet they still protested peacefully and had a good cause to rally behind.Also, idk why MLK being Christian suddenly makes him bad.that was the joke
Quote from: challengerX on February 02, 2017, 02:05:28 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2017, 01:49:48 PMQuote from: Nasty Turkey. SAD! on February 02, 2017, 01:31:43 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2017, 01:27:15 PMI should also add if these people legit got violent and broke stuff, it sort of invalidates their entire stance on being against him, because they look like the monsters, and he doesn't.tbh I don't really agree with this. They got done what they wanted accomplished, and as long as they didn't hurt anyone and stand accountable for their crimes, I'd say they were pretty effective.No it's just. People will focus on the things they messed up and not the thing they were protesting, and it just helps paint them in a bad light.It's exactly why people like MLK and Gandhi never did such things.Gandhi was a racist and MLK was a Christian.Yet they still protested peacefully and had a good cause to rally behind.Also, idk why MLK being Christian suddenly makes him bad.
I mean yeahhttp://nymag.com/thecut/2016/12/milo-yiannopoulos-harassed-a-trans-student-at-uw-milwaukee.htmlLet's let this guy speak at universities, because "muh free speech"
I think Icy is mad that there's a gay out there who is even more fab than him.
Quote from: Yang on February 02, 2017, 03:19:28 PMI think Icy is mad that there's a gay out there who is even more fab than him.Let's not talk about TBlocks like that.
Quote from: Alternative Facts on February 02, 2017, 03:23:59 PMQuote from: Yang on February 02, 2017, 03:19:28 PMI think Icy is mad that there's a gay out there who is even more fab than him.Let's not talk about TBlocks like that.Oh daaaamn
Quote from: Yang on February 02, 2017, 03:25:11 PMQuote from: Alternative Facts on February 02, 2017, 03:23:59 PMQuote from: Yang on February 02, 2017, 03:19:28 PMI think Icy is mad that there's a gay out there who is even more fab than him.Let's not talk about TBlocks like that.Oh daaaamnWhen will the mod brutality end
Quote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2017, 03:57:43 PMQuote from: Yang on February 02, 2017, 03:25:11 PMQuote from: Alternative Facts on February 02, 2017, 03:23:59 PMQuote from: Yang on February 02, 2017, 03:19:28 PMI think Icy is mad that there's a gay out there who is even more fab than him.Let's not talk about TBlocks like that.Oh daaaamnWhen will the mod brutality endWhen you quit using your teeth
Quote from: Alternative Facts on February 02, 2017, 04:12:59 PMQuote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2017, 03:57:43 PMQuote from: Yang on February 02, 2017, 03:25:11 PMQuote from: Alternative Facts on February 02, 2017, 03:23:59 PMQuote from: Yang on February 02, 2017, 03:19:28 PMI think Icy is mad that there's a gay out there who is even more fab than him.Let's not talk about TBlocks like that.Oh daaaamnWhen will the mod brutality endWhen you quit using your teeth
Quote from: Yang on February 02, 2017, 04:22:24 PMQuote from: Alternative Facts on February 02, 2017, 04:12:59 PMQuote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2017, 03:57:43 PMQuote from: Yang on February 02, 2017, 03:25:11 PMQuote from: Alternative Facts on February 02, 2017, 03:23:59 PMQuote from: Yang on February 02, 2017, 03:19:28 PMI think Icy is mad that there's a gay out there who is even more fab than him.Let's not talk about TBlocks like that.Oh daaaamnWhen will the mod brutality endWhen you quit using your teeth
god icy you're such a fucking faggot. you make me hate myself.
Milo's free speech isn't being violated
Burning things down and attacking a gay Jew? Trump supporters are the Nazis guys, not the protestors.
Quote from: Alternative Facts on February 02, 2017, 12:35:38 PMMilo's free speech isn't being violated Absolutely it is. An institution choosing not to host an individual, or individual students choosing not to attend a talk or even to protest it, is not comparable to a few hundred Antifa and black bloc radicals rioting. It's not unreasonable to say that platforms being blocked by coercion and violence, governmental or not, is a violation of free speech.
UC Berkeley officials are warning the hosts of a Wednesday night event featuring right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos that his campus speech may be used to target individual students in the country without documentation.“We are deeply concerned for all students’ safety and ability to pursue their education here at Cal beyond Milo’s speech,” the university’s Office of Student Affairs said in a letter Tuesday to the Berkeley College Republicans, the students hosting the event. “Milo’s event may be used to target individuals, either in the audience or by using their personal information in a way that causes them to become human targets to serve a political agenda.”The letter expressed concerns that Yiannopoulos — a British writer for the right-wing opinion site Breitbart News — will use his appearance to kick off a campaign “targeting the undocumented student community on our campus,” and linked to an article published Tuesday on the site.The article begins: “Milo and the (conservative think tank) David Horowitz Freedom Center have teamed up to take down the growing phenomenon of ‘sanctuary campuses’ that shelter illegal immigrants from being deported.”
http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2017/02/01/man-punched-riots-uc-berkeley-milo-event/
Quote from: Luciana on February 02, 2017, 02:18:14 PMAllowing a white nationalist to speak about how whites are the superior race and that we should kick immigrants out is not a productive "two way" street at all though. People shouldn't NEED to hear that kind of message because nothing productive comes out of it. It's fascism.Delete your account.
Allowing a white nationalist to speak about how whites are the superior race and that we should kick immigrants out is not a productive "two way" street at all though. People shouldn't NEED to hear that kind of message because nothing productive comes out of it. It's fascism.
#MiloAtCali canceled - Violent Rioting
