Mental illnesses don't exist. . . No, seriously

 
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Unless you're a substance dualist, it seems to me that the idea of "mental illness" is nothing more than a confusion. A lexical error which has, I think, led to more harm than good.

The idea of the "mind" being higher than the material, and somehow more sacrosanct (due in no small part to the aforementioned dualism, as well as religion) has led to the stigmatisation of diseases and illnesses to do with one's emotional or cognitive well-being.

People, generally, are more apt to take medicine for ills of the body - such as for arthritis, muscle injuries, heart problems, et cetera - yet more shy to take the likes of anti-depressants or anti-psychotics. It is especially bad for illnesses like psychopathy, schizophrenia, borderline, or pretty much any personality disorder or psychosis. If that needs putting in perspective, think of the contempt some people who suffer from just depression have to face.

The point here, fundamentally, however is not that illnesses such as those just mentioned themselves don't exist. The point is that they're the proximate result of some physical affliction. Sociopathy can be caused by damage to the prefrontal cortex and emotional trauma, psychopathy by bad genes, schizophrenia by both genes and environment.

It seems altogether beneficial to view mental illnesses in this way. Not only is stigmatising mental illnesses as some sort of false, or even evil, disease hindering research, it also disrupts treatment. Mental illnesses are, always and everywhere, reducible to physical causes and are, necessarily, physical illnesses.

If somebody can name me a mental illness not caused by physical factors, go ahead. You won't be able to do it, though.

Last Edit: October 06, 2014, 10:48:16 AM by Meta Cognition


 
 
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Hmm, well I suppose an important bit of this would be whether you put your opinion behind the Biological approach for mental health (Which I do mostly) or the Cognitive-Behavioural (Which has it's place certainly, but is lacking when it tries to explain away physical causes of a mental illness, so generally you would need a combination of the two to determine the problem.

This does actually bring about the point that mental illness isn't quite as cut and dry as you would make it seem in the OP (Obviously you know this already).

Take for example two patients with Depression, one responds to anti-depressants and the other to talking therapies whilst the anti-depressants don't have any effect on them. It's a fairly common dilemma faced by people treating those with depression in a clinical setting, they tend to just prescribe them as a shot in the dark.

Then I guess you could also argue that it is because our understanding of the biology/neurology behind mental illness is still very much in it's infancy <.<

A very good thread with a lot to discuss, unfortunately I'm in the middle of my coursework lol >.>
When I've finished the week's work (I love to cram it all into one afternoon, blitzkrieg style) I would be quite happy to throw this around for a while >.>


 
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As a point of digression, couldn't the unresponsiveness to medication from some depressives be indicative of further physical divergence?

The fact that one person responds to a certain kind of treatment while another doesn't merely indicates that there are further neurological differences between those people, doesn't it?

Although, re-reading your answer, you did sort of cover that in the subsequent paragraph >.>
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"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."
Your title had me a little worried, but after reading the body, yeah, I agree.


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Your title had me a little worried, but after reading the body, yeah, I agree.
^^

also, can you tell me the difference between socio- and psychpathy
i don't remember and I'm to lazy to search.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Your title had me a little worried, but after reading the body, yeah, I agree.
^^

also, can you tell me the difference between socio- and psychpathy
i don't remember and I'm to lazy to search.
Sociopathy is usually the result of environment where as psychopath is genetic. Clinically (if such a term can be used in a case like this), it's referred to as secondary and primary psychopathy respectively.

Consequentially, sociopaths tend to be more impulsive, anxious, sensitive to rewards and emotionally unstable. Psychopaths vary in impulsivity, are usually more intentional in antisocial behaviour, more sadistic and less empathetic.


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Your title had me a little worried, but after reading the body, yeah, I agree.
^^

also, can you tell me the difference between socio- and psychpathy
i don't remember and I'm to lazy to search.
Sociopathy is usually the result of environment where as psychopath is genetic. Clinically (if such a term can be used in a case like this), it's referred to as secondary and primary psychopathy respectively.

Consequentially, sociopaths tend to be more impulsive, anxious, sensitive to rewards and emotionally unstable. Psychopaths vary in impulsivity, are usually more intentional in antisocial behaviour, more sadistic and less empathetic.

thank youuu
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unless you're just making a semantical point.
Essentially.

It just so happens that this semantic issue has played upon our perception (as the course of language usually will) in one of the most malicious ways I can imagine.


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How is it malicious?

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The idea of the "mind" being higher than the material, and somehow more sacrosanct (due in no small part to the aforementioned dualism, as well as religion) has led to the stigmatisation of diseases and illnesses to do with one's emotional or cognitive well-being.

People, generally, are more apt to take medicine for ills of the body - such as for arthritis, muscle injuries, heart problems, et cetera - yet more shy to take the likes of anti-depressants or anti-psychotics. It is especially bad for illnesses like psychopathy, schizophrenia, borderline, or pretty much any personality disorder or psychosis. If that needs putting in perspective, think of the contempt some people who suffer from just depression have to face.


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does this stuff even work?
i agree 100%. DID is a load of crap.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
i agree 100%. DID is a load of crap.
. . .

DID is a genuine disorder.

I don't know how you got from my premise to your conclusion either, that was a total non-sequitur.
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i agree 100%. DID is a load of crap.
. . .

DID is a genuine disorder.

elaborate.


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i agree 100%. DID is a load of crap.

I don't know how you got from my premise to your conclusion either, that was a total non-sequitur.

I read your post, but it was a response to the title. also, DID has been on my mind kinda too.
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
I read your post, but it was a response to the title. also, DID has been on my mind kinda too.
Just to be absolutely, 100% clear I'm not denying that mental illnesses and disorders exist.

I'm saying the categorisation of them as "mental" disorders as opposed to a physical aberration is an error.


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I read your post, but it was a response to the title. also, DID has been on my mind kinda too.
Just to be absolutely, 100% clear I'm not denying that mental illnesses and disorders exist.

I'm saying the categorisation of them as "mental" disorders as opposed to a physical aberration is an error.

I know what you were saying. I read the OP. Sorry for being ambiguous..


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Spiderman stuff goes in the Flood, not serious <.<