Male/Female nudity, why is sexual shit considered taboo and censored?

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random non sequiturs it is

so much for serious getting more serious

sexism against women lives on through double standards and supressed judgment of them

live with it

One of the few things that legitamately pisses me off is sexism.


It's like, having 'balls' is associated with manliness and toughness, while being a 'pussy' is associated with cowardliness and being a wimp. Don't women have to go through much more pain than men? Guys don't have to deal with periods and childbirth.

'Pussy' could arguably just be another way of saying scaredy cat though, but still.
Women tend to shy away from physically demanding or dangerous work.
Also because toxic masculinity usually means actively suppressing your brain.
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Breasts on women are, for some reason
Because they're a symbol of fertility and maternity. They're baby-feeders, and large baby-feeders, from a primitive biological perspective, have a greater likelihood of propagating the species than smaller ones do. It's not that complicated.


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Breasts on women are, for some reason
Because they're a symbol of fertility and maternity. They're baby-feeders, and large baby-feeders, from a primitive biological perspective, have a greater likelihood of propagating the species than smaller ones do. It's not that complicated.
Doesn't matter. What's socially acceptable for men HAS to be socially acceptable for women.


 
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Doesn't matter. What's socially acceptable for men HAS to be socially acceptable for women.
So you're saying the acceptability of a social norm for women is contingent upon whether it's acceptable for men? In other words, men come first? That's kinda sexist, isn't it?

No, it's not a question of what should be "acceptable." It's a question of what should be unacceptable.

All expressions of sexuality should be socially unacceptable. Everyone should be shunned.


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Doesn't matter. What's socially acceptable for men HAS to be socially acceptable for women.
So you're saying the acceptability of a social norm for women is contingent upon whether it's acceptable for men? In other words, men come first? That's kinda sexist, isn't it?

No, it's not a question of what should be "acceptable." It's a question of what should be unacceptable.

All sexuality should be socially unacceptable.
No, I'm saying that they have to be equal at all times. If a change is made in attitude regarding women, the same change has to be made regarding men, and vice versa.

If it's unacceptable for women to not wear tops, then it should be unacceptable for men to not wear tops.


 
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If it's unacceptable for women to not wear tops, then it should be unacceptable for men to not wear tops.
I completely agree. You'll never find me with a shirt off, and if I were in shape, no woman would ever be able to coax me into it.

I was only giving a simple explanation for why female breasts are considered sexually appealing, because a lot of people are like, "durr, FOR SOME REASON, these balls of fat are considered appealing!!! humans r weird!!!"

Annoying.


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Breasts on women are, for some reason
Because they're a symbol of fertility and maternity. They're baby-feeders, and large baby-feeders, from a primitive biological perspective, have a greater likelihood of propagating the species than smaller ones do. It's not that complicated.
I was actually going to mention this, but I didn't know how it would look in writing. I think you've phrased it here better than I would have.


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If it's unacceptable for women to not wear tops, then it should be unacceptable for men to not wear tops.
I completely agree. You'll never find me with a shirt off, and if I were in shape, no woman would ever be able to coax me into it.

I was only giving a simple explanation for why female breasts are considered sexually appealing, because a lot of people are like, "durr, FOR SOME REASON, these balls of fat are considered appealing!!! humans r weird!!!"

Annoying.
Oh, I see what you mean. I thought you were saying it as a justification for the double standard.


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If it's unacceptable for women to not wear tops, then it should be unacceptable for men to not wear tops.
I was only giving a simple explanation for why female breasts are considered sexually appealing, because a lot of people are like, "durr, FOR SOME REASON, these balls of fat are considered appealing!!! humans r weird!!!"

Annoying.
Rude, but alright.


 
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Oh, I see what you mean. I thought you were saying it as a justification for the double standard.
Definitely not. I would love for women to be able to go shirtless and braless just like men, without having people fawn over her, but that's just not reality. You can't just take sexuality out of the equation, unless you start teaching people that it's disgustingly carnal and primitive behavior.

You know, instead of glorifying it in the media.

But no one's going to agree with that, because it makes their penises cold and lonely.


 
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Rude, but alright.
Protip: I always get heated during discussions of sexuality. It's not personal.
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Oh, I see what you mean. I thought you were saying it as a justification for the double standard.
Definitely not. I would love for women to be able to go shirtless and braless just like men, without having people fawn over her, but that's just not reality. You can't just take sexuality out of the equation, unless you start teaching people that it's disgustingly carnal and primitive behavior.

You know, instead of glorifying it in the media.

But no one's going to agree with that, because it makes their penises cold and lonely.
I agree with this sentiment, but the process of conditioning against that biological impulse might be more complicated than punishment.


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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
Breasts are generally more sexualized than the male pectoral muscles I guess. Shitty reason, but it's basically the only one.

That being said I don't think either gender should be busting their nipples out in public, it's just simple decorum. Nobody wants to see your gorilla chest or pancake tits.
Last Edit: May 03, 2016, 07:01:04 PM by Mordo


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Still waiting for public nudity to be legal tbh


 
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Still waiting for public nudity to be legal tbh
by the time it is, nobody's going to want to see you


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Still waiting for public nudity to be legal tbh
spot the degenerate


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random non sequiturs it is

so much for serious getting more serious

sexism against women lives on through double standards and supressed judgment of them

live with it

One of the few things that legitamately pisses me off is sexism.


It's like, having 'balls' is associated with manliness and toughness, while being a 'pussy' is associated with cowardliness and being a wimp. Don't women have to go through much more pain than men? Guys don't have to deal with periods and childbirth.

'Pussy' could arguably just be another way of saying scaredy cat though, but still.
Calling someone a pussy has nothing to do with female genitalia, as far as I'm aware


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You'll notice it tends to be more of an American thing to find nudity absolutely horrible

I've noticed that games with straight up nudity here could be rated R-16 (16 year olds could play it), or even R-13

That being said, boobs are inherently sexual organs, and while men technically have them, they are different on women.


 
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Breasts on women are, for some reason
Because they're a symbol of fertility and maternity. They're baby-feeders, and large baby-feeders, from a primitive biological perspective, have a greater likelihood of propagating the species than smaller ones do. It's not that complicated.
Smart one


 
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I also read that the study showed men like the curve of the back to put ratio more than the butt itself. That has to do with the primitive thing that, when a woman is pregnant, they can be more mobile when they have the curve in their back due to the spine being able to support the weight.

Which is probably why everyone loved female butts in Halo Reach. Dat back arc.

Our brains are weird. As intelligent as we are, it is very odd indeed how the most basic things remind us that we're still animals in the end. Honestly, I find it fascinating how a race as intelligent and advanced as we've become, still abides to the most basic of basic things.

Anyone know what I mean?


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I don't want to see that shit regardless of who it is.

Fucking disgusting.


 
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Also, of course sex is gross. The human body in general is gross. When you actually sit down and just think about how we work, or what we have in us, then yeah. Nasty.

Kept us alive and made us come out on top though, so I guess you need a little nasty~


 
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I also read that the study showed men like the curve of the back to put ratio more than the butt itself. That has to do with the primitive thing that, when a woman is pregnant, they can be more mobile when they have the curve in their back due to the spine being able to support the weight.

Which is probably why everyone loved female butts in Halo Reach. Dat back arc.

Our brains are weird. As intelligent as we are, it is very odd indeed how the most basic things remind us that we're still animals in the end. Honestly, I find it fascinating how a race as intelligent and advanced as we've become, still abides to the most basic of basic things.

Anyone know what I mean?
i know exactly what you mean

it would be interesting to see how mass fetishes develop, as well--like, thigh gaps are huge right now, and like... why


 
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i know exactly what you mean

it would be interesting to see how mass fetishes develop, as well--like, thigh gaps are huge right now, and like... why
Media and culture probably has a rather big influence on it. Thigh gaps though never really struck me as super sexy. I guess it's just a signal someone is in shape, or curvy.


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Is it really that difficult to figure out why sexual organs and sexualized body parts are considered inappropriate for public settings?


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Is it really that difficult to figure out why sexual organs and sexualized body parts are considered inappropriate for public settings?
If our answers are simplistic, not really. When trying to identify what precedents contribute to our codifications of norm the depth of inquiry can actually contribute to the conversation, however.


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Is it really that difficult to figure out why sexual organs and sexualized body parts are considered inappropriate for public settings?
If our answers are simplistic, not really. When trying to identify what precedents contribute to our codifications of norm the depth of inquiry can actually contribute to the conversation, however.

What exactly does this contribute to the conversation? The "precedents [which] contribute to our codifications of norm(s)" are the sex-selection of certain traits among mates. We don't find large breasts and full hips attractive because the media says so, the media says so because we find those traits attractive. It's not a phase that humanity should "grow out of", it's just the basis of physical attraction among our species.