Love PewDiePie's response to the media

i am karjala takaisin · February 17, 2017, 07:49:50 PM

tbh the only sort of offensive humor that could get a chuckle or smirk out of me these days are statements that are so ridiculously over-the-top that there's no way they could be taken seriously

stuff like "women are the cancer of the universe" or "the jews are hacking your mind through the fifth dimension" or some shit

Verbatim · February 17, 2017, 07:51:00 PM

Quote from: Cindy on February 17, 2017, 07:26:20 PM

It's a joke that normalizes hatred, yes

I don't really have a problem with PDP and overall I think he's a standup guy. But the problem with these "edgy" jokes that come in nowadays is they have two kinds of people who laugh at them. When you say things like "kill all jews" or "lynch niggers" or "women should die" and so on, the first group that's gonna laugh at that is edgy teenagers and young adults who equate "mean-spirited" with "funny". The second type is people who laugh because it confirms their biases and they think "yes, that is what should happen".

actually, most of them are just people who find it funny when people like you get so offended over such things--and this, this post right here that you just made, is why they will continue

because it's not about the joke, it's about the reaction--and you're feeding them

and these are people who don't have a prejudiced bone in their bodies and just don't think jokes are worth getting riled up over

i'm gonna go out on a limb and say that's 90% of people who enjoy that type of humor

Cindy · February 17, 2017, 08:09:19 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 17, 2017, 07:51:00 PM

and these are people who don't have a prejudiced bone in their bodies

Verby, come on now

Let's be honest with ourselves, here

Are you really trying to say that Sep7 is a site without any traces of prejudice?

Luciana · February 17, 2017, 08:36:50 PM

Quote from: Cindy on February 17, 2017, 08:09:19 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 17, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
and these are people who don't have a prejudiced bone in their bodies
Verby, come on now

Let's be honest with ourselves, here

Are you really trying to say that Sep7 is a site without any traces of prejudice?

I don't think there is a single human being who doesn't have a trace of it.

challengerX · February 17, 2017, 08:37:58 PM

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challengerX · February 17, 2017, 08:47:18 PM

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Ian · February 17, 2017, 08:58:15 PM

EDIT: Obvious trolls don't deserve attention.

i am karjala takaisin · February 17, 2017, 09:24:35 PM

Quote from: challengerX on February 17, 2017, 08:47:18 PM

Quote from: whomst u speakin to, thot on February 17, 2017, 07:49:50 PM
these days
I've noticed you've become notably more somber recently. You doing ok?

oh yeah dude i'm good, don't worry

but yeah i suppose there has been a lot less of my shitposting lately...idk ive just been posting less (ive been hanging on another site) and posting more of my real unironic opinions

challengerX · February 17, 2017, 09:33:10 PM

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Turkey · February 18, 2017, 10:05:59 AM

Dietrich Six · February 18, 2017, 11:36:36 AM

Quote from: Cindy on February 17, 2017, 08:09:19 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 17, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
and these are people who don't have a prejudiced bone in their bodies
Verby, come on now

Let's be honest with ourselves, here

Are you really trying to say that Sep7 is a site without any traces of prejudice?

Name one user who is prejudiced.

Verbatim · February 18, 2017, 11:38:03 AM

Quote from: Cindy on February 17, 2017, 08:09:19 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 17, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
and these are people who don't have a prejudiced bone in their bodies
Verby, come on now

Let's be honest with ourselves, here

Are you really trying to say that Sep7 is a site without any traces of prejudice?

Against Muslims, yeah maybe.

But generally speaking, much if not all the rest of sexism/racism/whatever here is just vanilla-style trolling.

CIS · February 18, 2017, 01:19:17 PM

Quote from: Cindy on February 17, 2017, 08:09:19 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 17, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
and these are people who don't have a prejudiced bone in their bodies
Verby, come on now

Let's be honest with ourselves, here

Are you really trying to say that Sep7 is a site without any traces of prejudice?

Do you think you're without prejudice?

Cindy · February 18, 2017, 04:07:18 PM

Quote from: CIS on February 18, 2017, 01:19:17 PM

Quote from: Cindy on February 17, 2017, 08:09:19 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on February 17, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
and these are people who don't have a prejudiced bone in their bodies
Verby, come on now

Let's be honest with ourselves, here

Are you really trying to say that Sep7 is a site without any traces of prejudice?

Do you think you're without prejudice?

Only an idiot would say they're completely without prejudice

There's a difference between acknowledging you have prejudices and trying to move past them and ignoring the fact that prejudice exists to make shitty jokes on the internet.

challengerX · February 18, 2017, 04:28:43 PM

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Ian · February 24, 2017, 12:15:24 PM

The continuation of #PewDieGate:

YouTube

Someone call the morgue cause the media just got eternally BTFO.

Genghis Khan · February 25, 2017, 05:16:22 AM

Alex Jones is a fan it seems. Have to checkout the video.

DAS B00T x2 · February 25, 2017, 12:26:29 PM

Quote from: Ian on February 24, 2017, 12:15:24 PM

The continuation of #PewDieGate:

YouTube

Someone call the morgue cause the media just got eternally BTFO.

JK Rowling in an SS uniform is now my fetish.
Thanks, pewds.

MyNameIsCharlie · February 26, 2017, 05:04:57 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 17, 2017, 01:12:10 AM

Gotta side with Felix here. A joke is a joke is a joke is a joke--no matter how distasteful, no matter how much you dislike it. Never will there ever be a time where getting crucified by the media over a slightly offensive joke is acceptable.

C'mon. Freaking DISNEY was one of his sponsors. Does he have a right to say what he wants? Yeah. Do his bosses/sponsors have a right to fire him if the joke is in poor taste? Yeah. Do journalists have a right to say whatever about said joke? Yeah.

Freedom of speech goes for everyone, not just the offensive ones.

Verbatim · February 26, 2017, 05:07:54 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on February 26, 2017, 05:04:57 PM

C'mon. Freaking DISNEY was one of his sponsors.

Completely irrelevant to what I just said.

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Does he have a right to say what he wants? Yeah. Do his bosses/sponsors have a right to fire him if the joke is in poor taste?

Completely irrelevant to what I said.

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Do journalists have a right to say whatever about said joke? Yeah.

Well no, they don't, due to defamation & libel laws.

Go make a thread about farts and penises.

MyNameIsCharlie · February 26, 2017, 05:17:13 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 26, 2017, 05:07:54 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on February 26, 2017, 05:04:57 PM
C'mon. Freaking DISNEY was one of his sponsors.
Completely irrelevant to what I just said.
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Does he have a right to say what he wants? Yeah. Do his bosses/sponsors have a right to fire him if the joke is in poor taste?
Completely irrelevant to what I said.
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Do journalists have a right to say whatever about said joke? Yeah.
Well no, they don't, due to defamation & libel laws.

Go make a thread about farts and penises.

Har har

It's completely relevant. Everyone can say and react as they please, journalists do have some limitations, as their stories must be based in fact, but they can choose what to cover.

Defending him is the same as defending the journalists. There's actually little point in even arguing any of this. Unless it's just a hypothetical how far could you go talk. He made a bad joke and was called out on it. Case closed

Verbatim · February 26, 2017, 05:19:58 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on February 26, 2017, 05:17:13 PM

It's completely relevant. Everyone can say and react as they please, journalists do have some limitations, as their stories must be based in fact

Which is the problem here.

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He made a bad joke and was called out on it. Case closed

He's being defamed for it, which is bad.

No one actually thinks he's a Nazi, but he shouldn't even be labeled one to start with.

challengerX · February 26, 2017, 05:29:39 PM

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Turkey · February 26, 2017, 09:03:40 PM

YouTube

MyNameIsCharlie · February 26, 2017, 09:37:12 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 26, 2017, 05:19:58 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on February 26, 2017, 05:17:13 PM
It's completely relevant. Everyone can say and react as they please, journalists do have some limitations, as their stories must be based in fact
Which is the problem here.
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He made a bad joke and was called out on it. Case closed
He's being defamed for it, which is bad.

No one actually thinks he's a Nazi, but he shouldn't even be labeled one to start with.

He chose the wrong sign. Whatever statement he was trying to make with that Tom Green / Jackass type stunt was lost when he chose that sign.

Is it fair? Not really. But that's one of the rules we live with in our unfair world. Jews have the loudest voice and fairest complexion of the latest round of genocide victims. (and oddly the least sense of humor given how many Jewish Comedians there are...) Had he had an anti Rowandan joke on that sign, (or anti-Chechen) no one would have cared. But Jews are sensitive and they do happen to control the media...

He did something stupid. He paid for it.

Again case closed

Ian · February 26, 2017, 11:35:52 PM

No one is complaining about Disney releasing him, not even PDP himself. The problem is the writers slandering his name and saying he's a legitimate Nazi when they're doing the same thing. They're putting themselves between the bullets with their attack on PDP, watch the video I posted on this page by PDP. The editors themselves are making anti-Semitic/Holocaust jokes. Either context does matter and PDP can't be considered a real Nazi because he was joking, or context doesn't matter and the WSJ editors are Nazis as well for their comments and the world's biggest white supremacist website is their number one fans.

There is literally no argument against PDP here, he objectively did nothing wrong.

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on February 26, 2017, 09:37:12 PM

He did something stupid. He paid for it.

Again case closed

MyNameIsCharlie · February 27, 2017, 12:04:21 AM

Quote from: Ian on February 26, 2017, 11:35:52 PM

No one is complaining about Disney releasing him, not even PDP himself. The problem is the writers slandering his name and saying he's a legitimate Nazi when they're doing the same thing. They're putting themselves between the bullets with their attack on PDP, watch the video I posted on this page by PDP. The editors themselves are making anti-Semitic/Holocaust jokes. Either context does matter and PDP can't be considered a real Nazi because he was joking, or context doesn't matter and the WSJ editors are Nazis as well for their comments and the world's biggest white supremacist website is their number one fans.

There is literally no argument against PDP here, he objectively did nothing wrong.

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on February 26, 2017, 09:37:12 PM
He did something stupid. He paid for it.

Again case closed

Except for choose the exact wrong sign for his stunt.

Look, I actually agree with you that this is blown way outta proportion. It's a sign of the times. Jews are a little twitchy at the moment and PDP's choice of sign was... Ill Considered. Outrage sells, Murdoch knows this, and this happens. But life ain't fair. PDP should have read the weather and chose a different stunt.

Verbatim · February 27, 2017, 12:08:13 AM

itt: charlie says nothing everyone doesn't already agree with and contributes fuck all to the conversation

MyNameIsCharlie · February 27, 2017, 12:27:42 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 27, 2017, 12:08:13 AM

itt: charlie says nothing everyone doesn't already agree with and contributes fuck all to the conversation

Ok. So why did you keep arguing with me?

I differ with you in that I think PDP should have thought it though before doing the stunt, and that no one really yet has crossed the line. They're at the line, no doubt, but not actually over it. The lesson here is don't make the media's job easier.

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