Quote from: Prime Servitor on June 10, 2015, 02:25:40 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 10, 2015, 02:22:52 PMQuote from: Prime Servitor on June 10, 2015, 02:20:42 PMThis still doesn't mean that we should treat transgender people like shit. It would be a shitty thing to say "I don't want to be within 500ft of him because he has polio", what makes gender dysmorphia any different?The sight of people with polio doesn't induce vomitingWhy do people with Gender Dysmorphia make you vomit?Gender Dysmorphia is a subset of Body Dysmorphic Disorder; something like thinking you have an ugly nose, or are fatter than you are. Do all people who undergo "corrective" (SRS, plastic surgery) induce vomiting in you?Are you really comparing someone who changed their entire gender to someone who got a nose job?
Quote from: SecondClass on June 10, 2015, 02:22:52 PMQuote from: Prime Servitor on June 10, 2015, 02:20:42 PMThis still doesn't mean that we should treat transgender people like shit. It would be a shitty thing to say "I don't want to be within 500ft of him because he has polio", what makes gender dysmorphia any different?The sight of people with polio doesn't induce vomitingWhy do people with Gender Dysmorphia make you vomit?Gender Dysmorphia is a subset of Body Dysmorphic Disorder; something like thinking you have an ugly nose, or are fatter than you are. Do all people who undergo "corrective" (SRS, plastic surgery) induce vomiting in you?
Quote from: Prime Servitor on June 10, 2015, 02:20:42 PMThis still doesn't mean that we should treat transgender people like shit. It would be a shitty thing to say "I don't want to be within 500ft of him because he has polio", what makes gender dysmorphia any different?The sight of people with polio doesn't induce vomiting
This still doesn't mean that we should treat transgender people like shit. It would be a shitty thing to say "I don't want to be within 500ft of him because he has polio", what makes gender dysmorphia any different?
Are you really comparing someone who changed their entire gender to someone who got a nose job?
No one gives a fuck who you'd want to have sex with.
Quote from: Verbatim on June 10, 2015, 02:25:59 PMNo one gives a fuck who you'd want to have sex with. Unfortunately, roughly half our country cares who you have sex with.
"trannies are gross (they are)""I'd champion your right to do it any day, but that doesn't make it any less disgusting."Hypocritical. Would defend their right to do so. But when their back is turned call them out on it. No. You wouldn't defend shit. And, even more so. You don't respect them. Not saying you have to. But you put up a sham and a front. And as soon as you don't need it? True opinion shows.
Quote from: SecondClass on June 10, 2015, 02:26:36 PMAre you really comparing someone who changed their entire gender to someone who got a nose job?That was probably a poor comparison, yeah.Gender is FAR more meaningless and inconsequential than the shape of your nose.
But you don't fucking know what work someone has or has not had. Do you check everyone's medical history that you meet on the street?
No. They're both cases of Body Dysmorphic Disorder.
They didn't change their gender; if that was the problem, then you wouldn't be able to vomit over anything considering that they'd aesthetically be a normal person.So that would mean your problem is with transsexuals. And yes, corrective surgery is all the same. Whether you go under the knife to get a new nose, boobs, chin, or a new and more feminine/masculine face, it's the same thing.
Quote from: Verbatim on June 10, 2015, 02:28:28 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 10, 2015, 02:26:36 PMAre you really comparing someone who changed their entire gender to someone who got a nose job?That was probably a poor comparison, yeah.Gender is FAR more meaningless and inconsequential than the shape of your nose.No. They're both cases of Body Dysmorphic Disorder.
Quote from: Mad Max on June 10, 2015, 02:27:39 PMBut you don't fucking know what work someone has or has not had. Do you check everyone's medical history that you meet on the street?If a tranny is walking down the street, and you can't tell that he's one, then you need to get your eyes checked.
Quote from: Prime Servitor on June 10, 2015, 02:30:42 PMQuote from: Verbatim on June 10, 2015, 02:28:28 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 10, 2015, 02:26:36 PMAre you really comparing someone who changed their entire gender to someone who got a nose job?That was probably a poor comparison, yeah.Gender is FAR more meaningless and inconsequential than the shape of your nose.No. They're both cases of Body Dysmorphic Disorder.http://roygbiv.jezebel.com/stop-confusing-gender-dysphoria-with-body-dysmorphia-al-1583049920http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/BDD.htmBasically, one can be pretty much cured by surgery/treatment/whatever and the other cannot.
Quote from: Prime Servitor on June 10, 2015, 02:29:52 PMThey didn't change their gender; if that was the problem, then you wouldn't be able to vomit over anything considering that they'd aesthetically be a normal person.So that would mean your problem is with transsexuals. And yes, corrective surgery is all the same. Whether you go under the knife to get a new nose, boobs, chin, or a new and more feminine/masculine face, it's the same thing.Transgender, transsexual, transwhatever. This is why I just say traps/trannies.And no, it's not the same thing at all. One is changing yourself completely, the other is changing an insignificant part of yourself.
Acting like gender matters is basically the definition of transphobia.
Quote from: SecondClass on June 10, 2015, 02:31:40 PMQuote from: Mad Max on June 10, 2015, 02:27:39 PMBut you don't fucking know what work someone has or has not had. Do you check everyone's medical history that you meet on the street?If a tranny is walking down the street, and you can't tell that he's one, then you need to get your eyes checked.I think you're confusing transgender with a burly, hairy crossdresser.
Quote from: Groot on June 10, 2015, 02:34:08 PMQuote from: Prime Servitor on June 10, 2015, 02:30:42 PMQuote from: Verbatim on June 10, 2015, 02:28:28 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 10, 2015, 02:26:36 PMAre you really comparing someone who changed their entire gender to someone who got a nose job?That was probably a poor comparison, yeah.Gender is FAR more meaningless and inconsequential than the shape of your nose.No. They're both cases of Body Dysmorphic Disorder.http://roygbiv.jezebel.com/stop-confusing-gender-dysphoria-with-body-dysmorphia-al-1583049920http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/BDD.htmBasically, one can be pretty much cured by surgery/treatment/whatever and the other cannot.>jezebelI'd like a more unbiased source, if you will. Gender Dysmorphia is a subset of BDD; the only difference being that Gender Dysmorphia has to do with sex features.
So you're telling me that the Ukrainian Barbie hasn't changed herself aesthetically to nearly the extent of someone who undergoes feminization and SRS. (Nearly meaning no SRS, obviously)
I'm really not. Crossdressing is just as bad, though. Egh.
Quote from: SecondClass on June 10, 2015, 02:39:04 PMI'm really not. Crossdressing is just as bad, though. Egh."i think it's gross, therefore it's bad"i find cross-dressing kind of gross and weird, tooit's just not my thingwhy you gotta be a bigot about it though
A bigot would say "I don't like it, so you're not allowed to do it."I've never said, once, that people shouldn't be allowed to do this bullshit. Just that it's moronic and disgusting.
Quote from: Prime Servitor on June 10, 2015, 02:36:08 PMQuote from: Groot on June 10, 2015, 02:34:08 PMQuote from: Prime Servitor on June 10, 2015, 02:30:42 PMQuote from: Verbatim on June 10, 2015, 02:28:28 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 10, 2015, 02:26:36 PMAre you really comparing someone who changed their entire gender to someone who got a nose job?That was probably a poor comparison, yeah.Gender is FAR more meaningless and inconsequential than the shape of your nose.No. They're both cases of Body Dysmorphic Disorder.http://roygbiv.jezebel.com/stop-confusing-gender-dysphoria-with-body-dysmorphia-al-1583049920http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/BDD.htmBasically, one can be pretty much cured by surgery/treatment/whatever and the other cannot.>jezebelI'd like a more unbiased source, if you will. Gender Dysmorphia is a subset of BDD; the only difference being that Gender Dysmorphia has to do with sex features.Source? BDD doesn't respond to treatment like gender dysphoria does, from anything I could look up.
Quote from: Verbatim on June 10, 2015, 02:42:52 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 10, 2015, 02:39:04 PMI'm really not. Crossdressing is just as bad, though. Egh."i think it's gross, therefore it's bad"i find cross-dressing kind of gross and weird, tooit's just not my thingwhy you gotta be a bigot about it thoughA bigot would say "I don't like it, so you're not allowed to do it."I've never said, once, that people shouldn't be allowed to do this bullshit. Just that it's moronic and disgusting.
Quote from: Prime Servitor on June 10, 2015, 02:37:58 PMSo you're telling me that the Ukrainian Barbie hasn't changed herself aesthetically to nearly the extent of someone who undergoes feminization and SRS. (Nearly meaning no SRS, obviously)She's still a she, though. Changing your physical features and actually trying to become the gender you never got to be is comparing apples to oranges.
You'll allow them to do it, but you'll berate them every step of the way? That's bigotry.
Quote from: SecondClass on June 10, 2015, 02:41:46 PMQuote from: Prime Servitor on June 10, 2015, 02:37:58 PMSo you're telling me that the Ukrainian Barbie hasn't changed herself aesthetically to nearly the extent of someone who undergoes feminization and SRS. (Nearly meaning no SRS, obviously)She's still a she, though. Changing your physical features and actually trying to become the gender you never got to be is comparing apples to oranges.Do you have some sort of super vision that allows you to see people's crotches at all times?
Quote from: Mad Max on June 10, 2015, 02:45:32 PMYou'll allow them to do it, but you'll berate them every step of the way? That's bigotry.Then I'm a bigot.
why you gotta be a bigot though
Lord Jamar on transgenderism
