Lord Jamar on transgenderism

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Doesn't make any sense to quote if you're right underneath someone.
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I actually have one.

"lol" doesn't count.


 
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I actually have one.

"lol" doesn't count.

Not saying you don't have one. But it's thinly veiled. Has no real support, or backup other than your personal opinion on the matter.

To clarify. It's rather funny that you'd say it being a socially accepted thing in our society is sick when you're known for using various forms of drugs.

When body modification is already present and accepted in our society anyway.


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I actually have one.

"lol" doesn't count.

Not saying you don't have one. But it's thinly veiled. Has no real support, or backup other than your personal opinion on the matter.

To clarify. It's rather funny that you'd say it being a socially accepted thing in our society is sick when you're known for using various forms of drugs.

When body modification is already present and accepted in our society anyway.
Being a tranny is far worse than smoking weed or getting piercings, man. Is that really your argument? "You smoke lol so how can you say this completely other thing is bad?"


 
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I actually have one.

"lol" doesn't count.

Not saying you don't have one. But it's thinly veiled. Has no real support, or backup other than your personal opinion on the matter.

To clarify. It's rather funny that you'd say it being a socially accepted thing in our society is sick when you're known for using various forms of drugs.

When body modification is already present and accepted in our society anyway.
Being a tranny is far worse than smoking weed or getting piercings, man. Is that really your argument? "You smoke lol so how can you say this completely other thing is bad?"

Hokay.

Tell my why being a tranny is bad. Your explanation of why it's bad to be one, or, bad to have the alterations done.


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I never said that it's "bad" on a moral level, just sick and wrong. It's like incest - I'd champion your right to do it any day, but that doesn't make it any less disgusting.


 
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You've yet to give me a valid reason as to why it's wrong.

There's no such thing as, "It's just wrong."

It can't be "Just wrong" without reasons.

Know why incest is wrong? Genes. Stagnation. If everybody inbred then there would be no strong and adaptable gene pool. Mutations and code errors in genes would make mutations and unhealthy offspring.

That's why incest is wrong on a factual statement and level.

Now.

Your turn. Give me your reasons why it's wrong.


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It's a dysmorphic disorder, and some would consider a disorder to be a form of mental illness. In reality, it's more closely linked to anxiety disorders and-- genetically-- closely linked to OCD.


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Incest is family marrying, not having sex, first of all. So it's not "wrong" in the way you put it. Like being a trap, it's the normalization of it that would be wrong. The acceptance - most of all, the forced acceptance. If you think that trannies are gross (they are) like everyone did just ten years ago, you're a bigot. You're "transphobic". We invent all of these sensationalist BS causes every decade or so to feel important. It's getting to the point where I'd be considered a bad person if I refused to sleep with someone because they're a trap. That's my main issue. While I wouldn't want to be within 500 feet of a tranny, my actual issue is how society treats them.


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It's a dysmorphic disorder, and some would consider a disorder to be a form of mental illness. In reality, it's more closely linked to anxiety disorders and-- genetically-- closely linked to OCD.
It's literally a disease


 
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Incest is family marrying, not having sex, first of all.
No, incest implies sexual activity. I'm pretty sure it's right in the definition.


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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
It's a dysmorphic disorder, and some would consider a disorder to be a form of mental illness. In reality, it's more closely linked to anxiety disorders and-- genetically-- closely linked to OCD.
It's literally a disease
Yes, in the sense that it's an abnormality/disorder.


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Incest is family marrying, not having sex, first of all.
No, incest implies sexual activity. I'm pretty sure it's right in the definition.
It can be used both ways, then. I've always heard incest referred to as just marrying/dating.

That's was my initial meaning when I brought up the point, regardless.


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itt: people use accurate words to refer to transgender people.
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It's getting to the point where I'd be considered a bad person if I refused to sleep with someone because they're a trap.
don't be ridiculous


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
This still doesn't mean that we should treat transgender people like shit. It would be a shitty thing to say "I don't want to be within 500ft of him because he has polio", what makes gender dysmorphia any different?


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It's getting to the point where I'd be considered a bad person if I refused to sleep with someone because they're a trap.
don't be ridiculous
Give it 15 years, "transphobia" will be almost as bad as racial discrimination is considered today


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This still doesn't mean that we should treat transgender people like shit. It would be a shitty thing to say "I don't want to be within 500ft of him because he has polio", what makes gender dysmorphia any different?
The sight of people with polio doesn't induce vomiting


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pretty much
I'll never understand why people purposefully use distasteful language just to anger people.


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This still doesn't mean that we should treat transgender people like shit. It would be a shitty thing to say "I don't want to be within 500ft of him because he has polio", what makes gender dysmorphia any different?
The sight of people with polio doesn't induce vomiting
If you find yourself having a physical reaction to the sight of a human being who hasn't been blown to smithereens, I think it says more about you than anyone else.


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I'll never understand why people purposefully use distasteful language just to anger people.
For the same reason I say "black" instead of "African-American". One's the actual word, and the other is the politically-correct, peppered up buzzword that you have to say or you're terrible.


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
This still doesn't mean that we should treat transgender people like shit. It would be a shitty thing to say "I don't want to be within 500ft of him because he has polio", what makes gender dysmorphia any different?
The sight of people with polio doesn't induce vomiting
Why do people with Gender Dysmorphia make you vomit?

Gender Dysmorphia is a subset of Body Dysmorphic Disorder; something like thinking you have an ugly nose, or are fatter than you are. Do all people who undergo "corrective" (SRS, plastic surgery) induce vomiting in you?


 
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Incest is family marrying, not having sex, first of all. So it's not "wrong" in the way you put it. Like being a trap, it's the normalization of it that would be wrong. The acceptance - most of all, the forced acceptance. If you think that trannies are gross (they are) like everyone did just ten years ago, you're a bigot. You're "transphobic". We invent all of these sensationalist BS causes every decade or so to feel important. It's getting to the point where I'd be considered a bad person if I refused to sleep with someone because they're a trap. That's my main issue. While I wouldn't want to be within 500 feet of a tranny, my actual issue is how society treats them.

"sexual intercourse between closely related persons."

"the crime of sexual intercourse, cohabitation, or marriage between persons within the degrees of consanguinity or affinity wherein marriage is legally forbidden."

Oh look you're cherry picking the definition of incest.

And, cherry picking and generalizing again.

"like everyone did just ten years ago"

Big generalization.

"It's getting to the point where I'd be considered a bad person if I refused to sleep with someone because they're a trap."

Very simple counter if you get shit for something like that. Stating and enforcing that those kind of people don't attract you. Simple.

And, last thing here.

"trannies are gross (they are)"

"I'd champion your right to do it any day, but that doesn't make it any less disgusting."

Hypocritical. Would defend their right to do so. But when their back is turned call them out on it. No. You wouldn't defend shit. And, even more so. You don't respect them. Not saying you have to. But you put up a sham and a front. And as soon as you don't need it? True opinion shows.

Spineless thing to do. Not that it matters. It's you. That's your deal.

But you've not given any valid reason why it's wrong. Which makes your original statement mere opinion with no real basis other than what your own eyes see and judge.

Conversation over.

Point still stands.

I LOL.









 
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It's getting to the point where I'd be considered a bad person if I refused to sleep with someone because they're a trap.
don't be ridiculous
Give it 15 years, "transphobia" will be almost as bad as racial discrimination is considered today
As it probably should. That's not what you said, though. No one gives a fuck who you'd want to have sex with. People don't consider me racist because I strictly prefer white women over black women, sexually speaking.


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This still doesn't mean that we should treat transgender people like shit. It would be a shitty thing to say "I don't want to be within 500ft of him because he has polio", what makes gender dysmorphia any different?
The sight of people with polio doesn't induce vomiting
Why do people with Gender Dysmorphia make you vomit?

Gender Dysmorphia is a subset of Body Dysmorphic Disorder; something like thinking you have an ugly nose, or are fatter than you are. Do all people who undergo "corrective" (SRS, plastic surgery) induce vomiting in you?
Are you really comparing someone who changed their entire gender to someone who got a nose job?


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I'll never understand why people purposefully use distasteful language just to anger people.
For the same reason I say "black" instead of "African-American". One's the actual word, and the other is the politically-correct, peppered up buzzword that you have to say or you're terrible.
But black isn't distasteful of even politically incorrect. If you said "porch monkeys" or "apes", yeah, that'd be shitty. Not all black people are african-american.


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