Lol, Greece is still up to its shenanigans

 
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Demanding reparations for World War Two bigger than their current bailout deal.
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Greece has demanded nearly €279bn in reparations from Germany, more than the value of its current bail-out, as the cash-strapped country continues to pursue compensation for crimes carried out by the Third Reich.

A parliamentary committee established by Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras put an official number on the claim, which includes the cost of a forced Nazi loan made by the Bank of Greece and the return of archaeological treasures.

Greece suffered a brutal occupation at the hands of the Third Reich in 1941, with over 40,000 people starving to death in Athens alone.

Previous Greek calculations for the cost of the country's occupation have stood at around €160bn. The revised figures however amount to nearly 10pc of Germany's GDP.

Mr Tsipras has called the reparations question a "moral and ethical" issue for his country, repeating his demands during a visit to Berlin last month.

Greek ministers have also touted the idea of seizing German assets in the country to compensate the families of victims of Nazi war crimes.

A poll carried for Greek radio found more than 80pc of Greeks agreed with the pusuit of Nazi war debt claims.

Berlin moved to quickly to reject the fresh claims. Vice chancellor Sigmar Gabriel described the proposal as "dumb" and said it risked conflating Greece's current debt problems with historical grievances.

β€œIf you bring two areas that have nothing to do with one another, both heavily burdened issues politically, into a single context, then you make it damned easy for those from whom you want something simply to exit the debate and say β€˜you can’t do that’,” said Mr Gabriel.

Chancellor Angela Merkel has also resisted re-opening old wounds, insisting Berlin has honoured its obligations during a compensatory accord signed in 1960.

In a further sign of a hardening in attitudes towards their creditors, Greek lawmakers also voted to establish a committee examining the circumstances of its 2010 bail-out by eurozone creditors and the IMF to the tune of €240bn.

"After five years of parliamentary silence on the major issues that caused the bailout catastrophe, today we commence a procedure that will give answers to the questions concerning the Greek people," Mr Tsipras said to parliamentarians on Tuesday.

Finance minister Yanis Varoufakis has claimed the economy was unfairly lumbered with the liabilities that it is now struggling to pay off as its coffers run empty.

Mr Varoufakis has claimed Europe dealt with his country's bankruptcy by "loading the largest loan in human history on the weakest of shoulders - the Greek taxpayer."

Oh, Greece.


 
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Didn't you make a thread on this last month?


 
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Didn't you make a thread on this last month?
Yep, but they're doing it again and the demand has gone up.


 
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Not sure what's the intent behind trolling Germany's government, but it seems fun enough. However, if the point was to show how ridiculously huge of a debt it is and that it needs to be cut where you can imagine if Germany had to pay that huge of an amount for war repatriations to Greece - that would be stupid then in the same way it's stupid for Greece to pay that huge debt, and therefore it must be cut to something that makes more sense and that is achievable.

Most of the Greek population does want for Germany to pay for the war, but let's be honest here, the years of New Democracy throwing blame on Germany and Germany placing blame on Greece for the economic issues doesn't really help to shape a generally positive image.

Why should the Greek taxpayer have to carry this enormous loan? Nobody should carry that much of a loan to pay, and it's as ridiculous as asking Germany to pay 279 Billion Euros for WW2.


 
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that would be stupid then in the same way it's stupid for Greece to pay that huge debt
So the rest of the European Union should have to put up with Greece's shit because it's previous government thought it was a good idea to go fucking nuts when it could get credit at the same interest rate as Germany?

Your government failed, and the taxpayers are going to have to pick up the debt. Is that fair? Of course not, it's politics. But it's a hell of a lot better than any other country having to pick up the tab.


 
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Yes, the European Union has to help Greece because it's supposed to be a union where single nation-states come together to solve issues and come into solutions for their problems. If the point of the union is to just give ammo to certain nations to further "discipline" weaker ones then it's not an union, and it shouldn't even exist.

The debt has to be cut so it's possible to pay it, or to make it something more viable than the retarded move of borrowing money to pay the loan that will just get worse and worse while the country's assets are sold off, or left to rot without even being used.

And even then since the member states were aware of what was going on with the corrupt Greek government why didn't they do anything? Isn't all of this really awkwardly convenient for certain bodies in the EU? It's clear politics, and the Greeks shouldn't be the ones cleaning after the internal fights of interest. Everyone should be doing that, and right now it's more than clear that they want to use the huge loan to reprimand Greece and make it act as an experimental puppet.

That has to end if truly in the union they want for Greece to move forward, and for the EU to actually be something more than what it currently is.

So the rest of the European Union should have to put up with Greece's shit because it's previous government thought it was a good idea to go fucking nuts when it could get credit at the same interest rate as Germany?

Your government failed, and the taxpayers are going to have to pick up the debt. Is that fair? Of course not, it's politics. But it's a hell of a lot better than any other country having to pick up the tab.


 
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Yes, the European Union has to help Greece because it's supposed to be a union where single nation-states come together to solve issues and come into solutions for their problems.
Right, which includes proving that Greece can actually be fiscally responsible.


 
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Which is trying to but it's getting hit with the loan as if it were a whip at each instance its attempted to do so. So that's probably why they try to annoy Germany with this kind of thing. It might seem stupid, but since Greece is being hit with that then politically speaking it shouldn't just lower its head and take that whipping.

Because that's what the previous governments did, and not only they did that, but they also destroyed the country even further meanwhile the EU didn't care until they realized that it was a time bomb and managed to squeeze the most money and further dig a grave for Greece at the same time.

Right, which includes proving that Greece can actually be fiscally responsible.


 
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It might seem stupid, but since Greece is being hit with that then politically speaking it shouldn't just lower its head and take that whipping.
Maybe Greece shouldn't have lied to get into the European Union in the first place, then. . .

Actually, I'm just going to leave this here.


 
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And maybe the EU shouldn't have accepted Greece since it knew that it was b.s.ing. Hey, it's too late for that now, isn't it?

Maybe Greece shouldn't have lied to get into the European Union in the first place, then. . .

Actually, I'm just going to leave this here.



 
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And maybe the EU shouldn't have accepted Greece since it knew that it was b.s.ing.
What do you expect? The European Union is a fucking failure.


 
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It will keep being a failure as long in the EU nations serve their own agenda and not a common one that actually benefits all members.

The European Union is a fucking failure.


 
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They can't call on it legitimately, can they?

I swear there was some sort of agreement that nulled any later reparations from either World War (and IIRC, Germany payed back the WWI ones recently...)