Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:41:56 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:37:16 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 05:51:09 PMTransgenderism is not normal. It's the opposite of normal, something's in fact very wrong with it.LOL THIS FUCKING GUYOh, so it's completely normal and not an issue at all?Yeah, if you're not an ignorant asshole.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:37:16 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 05:51:09 PMTransgenderism is not normal. It's the opposite of normal, something's in fact very wrong with it.LOL THIS FUCKING GUYOh, so it's completely normal and not an issue at all?
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 05:51:09 PMTransgenderism is not normal. It's the opposite of normal, something's in fact very wrong with it.LOL THIS FUCKING GUY
Transgenderism is not normal. It's the opposite of normal, something's in fact very wrong with it.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:44:35 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:41:56 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:37:16 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 05:51:09 PMTransgenderism is not normal. It's the opposite of normal, something's in fact very wrong with it.LOL THIS FUCKING GUYOh, so it's completely normal and not an issue at all?Yeah, if you're not an ignorant asshole.Nah, if you're an ignorant asshole you just let them suffer with dysphoria instead of being honest about it and trying to solve it. Yes, cuddle their feelings so they can suffer a little less than finding an outright cure.Fucking idiot.
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:53:52 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:44:35 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:41:56 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:37:16 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 05:51:09 PMTransgenderism is not normal. It's the opposite of normal, something's in fact very wrong with it.LOL THIS FUCKING GUYOh, so it's completely normal and not an issue at all?Yeah, if you're not an ignorant asshole.Nah, if you're an ignorant asshole you just let them suffer with dysphoria instead of being honest about it and trying to solve it. Yes, cuddle their feelings so they can suffer a little less than finding an outright cure.Fucking idiot."cure"THIS FUCKING GUYLOL
Quote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:54:58 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:53:52 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:44:35 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:41:56 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:37:16 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 05:51:09 PMTransgenderism is not normal. It's the opposite of normal, something's in fact very wrong with it.LOL THIS FUCKING GUYOh, so it's completely normal and not an issue at all?Yeah, if you're not an ignorant asshole.Nah, if you're an ignorant asshole you just let them suffer with dysphoria instead of being honest about it and trying to solve it. Yes, cuddle their feelings so they can suffer a little less than finding an outright cure.Fucking idiot."cure"THIS FUCKING GUYLOLYeah. Having your biological wiring fucked up is not normal, and you're lying to yourself if you think it is. If it would be normal for nature to make males who want to be females and vice versa, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But that's not the case, is it?
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:57:40 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:54:58 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:53:52 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:44:35 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:41:56 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:37:16 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 05:51:09 PMTransgenderism is not normal. It's the opposite of normal, something's in fact very wrong with it.LOL THIS FUCKING GUYOh, so it's completely normal and not an issue at all?Yeah, if you're not an ignorant asshole.Nah, if you're an ignorant asshole you just let them suffer with dysphoria instead of being honest about it and trying to solve it. Yes, cuddle their feelings so they can suffer a little less than finding an outright cure.Fucking idiot."cure"THIS FUCKING GUYLOLYeah. Having your biological wiring fucked up is not normal, and you're lying to yourself if you think it is. If it would be normal for nature to make males who want to be females and vice versa, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But that's not the case, is it?Please define your use of "normal"do you mean "occurring in a majority of people" or do you mean "occurring naturally"?
Quote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:58:58 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:57:40 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:54:58 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:53:52 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:44:35 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:41:56 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:37:16 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 05:51:09 PMTransgenderism is not normal. It's the opposite of normal, something's in fact very wrong with it.LOL THIS FUCKING GUYOh, so it's completely normal and not an issue at all?Yeah, if you're not an ignorant asshole.Nah, if you're an ignorant asshole you just let them suffer with dysphoria instead of being honest about it and trying to solve it. Yes, cuddle their feelings so they can suffer a little less than finding an outright cure.Fucking idiot."cure"THIS FUCKING GUYLOLYeah. Having your biological wiring fucked up is not normal, and you're lying to yourself if you think it is. If it would be normal for nature to make males who want to be females and vice versa, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But that's not the case, is it?Please define your use of "normal"do you mean "occurring in a majority of people" or do you mean "occurring naturally"?Both.
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 06, 2015, 12:04:40 AMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:58:58 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:57:40 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:54:58 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:53:52 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:44:35 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:41:56 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:37:16 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 05:51:09 PMTransgenderism is not normal. It's the opposite of normal, something's in fact very wrong with it.LOL THIS FUCKING GUYOh, so it's completely normal and not an issue at all?Yeah, if you're not an ignorant asshole.Nah, if you're an ignorant asshole you just let them suffer with dysphoria instead of being honest about it and trying to solve it. Yes, cuddle their feelings so they can suffer a little less than finding an outright cure.Fucking idiot."cure"THIS FUCKING GUYLOLYeah. Having your biological wiring fucked up is not normal, and you're lying to yourself if you think it is. If it would be normal for nature to make males who want to be females and vice versa, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But that's not the case, is it?Please define your use of "normal"do you mean "occurring in a majority of people" or do you mean "occurring naturally"?Both.Then you're fucking wrong.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 06, 2015, 12:05:41 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 06, 2015, 12:04:40 AMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:58:58 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:57:40 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:54:58 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:53:52 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:44:35 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:41:56 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:37:16 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 05:51:09 PMTransgenderism is not normal. It's the opposite of normal, something's in fact very wrong with it.LOL THIS FUCKING GUYOh, so it's completely normal and not an issue at all?Yeah, if you're not an ignorant asshole.Nah, if you're an ignorant asshole you just let them suffer with dysphoria instead of being honest about it and trying to solve it. Yes, cuddle their feelings so they can suffer a little less than finding an outright cure.Fucking idiot."cure"THIS FUCKING GUYLOLYeah. Having your biological wiring fucked up is not normal, and you're lying to yourself if you think it is. If it would be normal for nature to make males who want to be females and vice versa, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But that's not the case, is it?Please define your use of "normal"do you mean "occurring in a majority of people" or do you mean "occurring naturally"?Both.Then you're fucking wrong.That's why transgender people struggle with depression, right? That's why it's completely normal and "natural", right?You're fucking stupid AND wrong.
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 06, 2015, 12:09:25 AMQuote from: Mad Max on July 06, 2015, 12:05:41 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 06, 2015, 12:04:40 AMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:58:58 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:57:40 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:54:58 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:53:52 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:44:35 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:41:56 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:37:16 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 05:51:09 PMTransgenderism is not normal. It's the opposite of normal, something's in fact very wrong with it.LOL THIS FUCKING GUYOh, so it's completely normal and not an issue at all?Yeah, if you're not an ignorant asshole.Nah, if you're an ignorant asshole you just let them suffer with dysphoria instead of being honest about it and trying to solve it. Yes, cuddle their feelings so they can suffer a little less than finding an outright cure.Fucking idiot."cure"THIS FUCKING GUYLOLYeah. Having your biological wiring fucked up is not normal, and you're lying to yourself if you think it is. If it would be normal for nature to make males who want to be females and vice versa, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But that's not the case, is it?Please define your use of "normal"do you mean "occurring in a majority of people" or do you mean "occurring naturally"?Both.Then you're fucking wrong.That's why transgender people struggle with depression, right? That's why it's completely normal and "natural", right?You're fucking stupid AND wrong.Who said something natural was always happiness and rainbows and sunshine?
Quote from: Mad Max on July 06, 2015, 12:10:27 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 06, 2015, 12:09:25 AMQuote from: Mad Max on July 06, 2015, 12:05:41 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 06, 2015, 12:04:40 AMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:58:58 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:57:40 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:54:58 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:53:52 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:44:35 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 11:41:56 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 05, 2015, 11:37:16 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 05, 2015, 05:51:09 PMTransgenderism is not normal. It's the opposite of normal, something's in fact very wrong with it.LOL THIS FUCKING GUYOh, so it's completely normal and not an issue at all?Yeah, if you're not an ignorant asshole.Nah, if you're an ignorant asshole you just let them suffer with dysphoria instead of being honest about it and trying to solve it. Yes, cuddle their feelings so they can suffer a little less than finding an outright cure.Fucking idiot."cure"THIS FUCKING GUYLOLYeah. Having your biological wiring fucked up is not normal, and you're lying to yourself if you think it is. If it would be normal for nature to make males who want to be females and vice versa, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But that's not the case, is it?Please define your use of "normal"do you mean "occurring in a majority of people" or do you mean "occurring naturally"?Both.Then you're fucking wrong.That's why transgender people struggle with depression, right? That's why it's completely normal and "natural", right?You're fucking stupid AND wrong.Who said something natural was always happiness and rainbows and sunshine?Hm, I guess terrible diseases are okay and normal, too. Ya know, like Harlequin-type ichthyosis. Yeah, we shouldn't look for a cure or solution for that at ALL
Just, well, you know. Something small here.A quick question. What would you call a normal human being? Can you give me a very strict and refined set of parameters that fill this portion of "normal" on the meter?
Quote from: Sandtrap on July 06, 2015, 12:16:55 AMJust, well, you know. Something small here.A quick question. What would you call a normal human being? Can you give me a very strict and refined set of parameters that fill this portion of "normal" on the meter?Straight, white, Christian male. Duh.
Again:Quote from: Nuka on July 05, 2015, 06:04:16 PMHere's the thing. You can change the body to suit the mind, but you can't change the mind to suit the body. You can cure dysphoria and have a perfectly normal, happy and functioning individual. If you're thinking of "cures," the cure is allowing the person to transition if they want to. It's not something that should be forced, but it shouldn't be a massive obstacle either.
Here's the thing. You can change the body to suit the mind, but you can't change the mind to suit the body. You can cure dysphoria and have a perfectly normal, happy and functioning individual.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 06, 2015, 12:19:02 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on July 06, 2015, 12:16:55 AMJust, well, you know. Something small here.A quick question. What would you call a normal human being? Can you give me a very strict and refined set of parameters that fill this portion of "normal" on the meter?Straight, white, Christian male. Duh.No, but okay. Let your liberal bias skew your vision of reality.
Unless there's any evidence that suggests it's possible to be cured, this thread and mindset are pointless.
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 06, 2015, 12:50:55 AMQuote from: Nuka on July 06, 2015, 12:47:02 AMAgain:Quote from: Nuka on July 05, 2015, 06:04:16 PMHere's the thing. You can change the body to suit the mind, but you can't change the mind to suit the body. You can cure dysphoria and have a perfectly normal, happy and functioning individual. If you're thinking of "cures," the cure is allowing the person to transition if they want to. It's not something that should be forced, but it shouldn't be a massive obstacle either.Yes, this.So if you're for allowing people to transition, then why do you seem so hostile towards everything? You give off the impression that you're against it all even if you're not.Or maybe I'm just too used to people being against it all and I'm reading in the wrong tone. I don't even know anymore.
Quote from: Nuka on July 06, 2015, 12:47:02 AMAgain:Quote from: Nuka on July 05, 2015, 06:04:16 PMHere's the thing. You can change the body to suit the mind, but you can't change the mind to suit the body. You can cure dysphoria and have a perfectly normal, happy and functioning individual. If you're thinking of "cures," the cure is allowing the person to transition if they want to. It's not something that should be forced, but it shouldn't be a massive obstacle either.Yes, this.
Quote from: Maverick on July 06, 2015, 02:30:51 AMUnless there's any evidence that suggests it's possible to be cured, this thread and mindset are pointless.Yeah, because humans have totally gotten this far with that kind of mindset.Dumbass.
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 06, 2015, 05:31:47 AMQuote from: Maverick on July 06, 2015, 02:30:51 AMUnless there's any evidence that suggests it's possible to be cured, this thread and mindset are pointless.Yeah, because humans have totally gotten this far with that kind of mindset.Dumbass.So just because something's not normal, that means it can be cured like the common cold, and no one's found out about it is because we're too worried about political correctness? And you've come to this conclusion without doing any research?Hard to believe you're an EMT and not a doctor.
Wow... Op: do you seriously want to find a "cure" for someone to accept that they're a guy when they feel like they're a girl? That's like saying we need to find a cure for homosexuality. Which we obviously don't. There are homosexual animals out there in nature, and since we can't read animal thoughts and since they obviously can't talk there's no way to know if they think they are the opposite sex. Just wow.
Quote from: Winy on July 27, 2015, 08:47:08 AMNobody's getting hurtLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Nobody's getting hurt
Let's get something straight.
