James Holmes/Cinema Shooter closer to a verdict

 
 
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33763506

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Convicted mass killer James Holmes has moved one step closer to the death penalty after jurors rejected a defence appeal for leniency.

The same jury found Holmes guilty of killing 12 people and wounding 70 others at a cinema in Aurora, Colorado.

Holmes' mitigating factors, including mental illness, do not outweigh the crime, the jury determined on Monday.

Now the proceedings move to the third and final phase of the sentencing where victims will make impact statements.

Victims and their relatives will soon have the opportunity to tell the court about how Holmes' crimes have affected their lives.

During the second phase, Holmes' family and childhood friends shared memories of him as a loving child who became more isolated as he grew up.
Jansen Young, who saw her boyfriend Jonathan Blunk killed in the cinema, could testify during the third sentencing phase

Both Holmes' parents took the stand during sentencing to plead for his life.

"I didn't realize that his loudest cry for help was his silence," Arlene Holmes, James' mother, told court prosecutors.

During his trial, defence lawyers argued, unsuccessfully for Holmes to be found not guilty by reason of insanity.

But instead the jury of nine women and three men convicted him on all 165 counts of murder, attempted murder, and possession of explosives.

The jury will next determine in the coming days whether the 27-year-old should be executed by lethal injection.

So there is clearly no doubt he killed/maimed all those people, or that he should be removed from society but the question that comes to mind is whether he should be being executed, life-sentenced or padded-cell'd. The third option would depend a lot on whether the mental illness he has is severe enough to warrant that/impair higher choices and the like.

What do you think should happen to him?


 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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Why is it we aren't allowed to turture people like this, break their minds and then make them into drones for society.
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Why is it we aren't allowed to turture people like this, break their minds and then make them into drones for society.
Because that's highly inefficient.

Robots make much better workers than meatbags, especially those with broken minds.

Soylent green on the other hand, now that's a useful re-purposing. Either way it's a tad unethical to do that, even to a lunatic who has killed a bunch of people.


 
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Men have hanged for less. If he was put to death then I wouldn't be surprised of overly concerned.

If he lives, so should Dzhokhar.


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Why is it we aren't allowed to turture people like this, break their minds and then make them into drones for society.
Since this is Serious, let's get specific. Because I'm fucking tired of people who advocate this bullshit and don't think it all the way through.

How would it be done? By who? You? Volunteers? Who would these volunteers be but lunatics just as bad as the one being punished by the state? Or maybe a professional hired by the state? Do you seriously want somebody like that given the green light by the state at their discretion? Why would you want the state to have the power to torture prisoners for having committed crimes? Which crimes deserve torture? How does this bring back the people he killed or make any of this ok?

Try thinking a little before you say something so mind numbingly stupid and then be thankful you live in a country where prisoners aren't tortured for fun.

You do have a good point thank you


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He's quite clearly sane, as was demonstrated with how meticulously he orchestrated the attack.

Saying that, I hope they give him life. The barbarity of the death penalty has no place in contemporary society anymore.


 
 
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He's quite clearly sane, as was demonstrated with how meticulously he orchestrated the attack.

Saying that, I hope they give him life. The barbarity of the death penalty has no place in contemporary society anymore.
I wouldn't really class him as sane, but certainly in control of his faculties enough to know that it was wrong which iirc is the measure for the insanity defence rather than 'is this guy a nutcase?' <.<
Flee might know the specifics though.


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Why is it we aren't allowed to turture people like this, break their minds and then make them into drones for society.
Give him the Theon Greyjoy treatment, eh?


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I think they should lock him away for the rest of his life.
No death penalty? Come on now.


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I think they should lock him away for the rest of his life.
No death penalty? Come on now.
The death penalty is barbaric and archaic, not to mention hypocritical.


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He's quite clearly sane, as was demonstrated with how meticulously he orchestrated the attack.
High functioning fixations are literally characteristics of many mental disorders rofl


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"A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him saying, 'You are mad, you are not like us'."
-Saint Anthony the Great
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Cases like this are the only time where I don't mind if the death penalty is used, however, life imprisonment isn't bad either.