Lawrence Krauss: We Need to Teach Kids Creative Thinking

Forgewolf · June 11, 2015, 10:15:52 PM

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Lots of truth this man speaks

Release · June 12, 2015, 08:42:05 PM

Ideally, he's on the money. I just wish Common Core was more effective

More Than Mortal · June 12, 2015, 10:24:47 PM

I'm not even sure you can teach creativity.

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · June 12, 2015, 10:36:10 PM

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🍁 Aria 🔮 · June 12, 2015, 10:41:56 PM

And then we implement more standardized tests to make sure they're being creative enough, right?

More Than Mortal · June 12, 2015, 11:13:25 PM

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nurture

You fucking queer or something?

Mad Max · June 13, 2015, 01:06:10 AM

Quote from: ahimsa on June 12, 2015, 08:42:05 PM

Common Core

GASP

Careful, you'll rustle the conservative jimmies if you mention those words.

More Than Mortal · June 13, 2015, 01:43:08 AM

Quote from: Mad Max on June 13, 2015, 01:06:10 AM

Careful, you'll rustle the conservative jimmies if you mention those words.

But I support Common Core. . .

And so does Jeb Bush.

Verbatim · June 13, 2015, 01:52:43 AM

my sister was showing me how common core is teaching kids addition and subtraction nowadays

and i'm just like

...what the fuck

Verbatim · June 13, 2015, 01:53:27 AM

what

the

fuck

Mad Max · June 13, 2015, 02:03:00 AM

too bad that's a load of horse shit and they still teach math the way they always did.

the only thing they've changed is what kind of math they teach in each grade.

Ender · June 13, 2015, 02:28:48 AM

common core sucks

Mad Max · June 13, 2015, 02:56:44 AM

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common core sucks

you suck.

big dog · June 13, 2015, 03:02:48 AM

Common Core looks like a load of shit.

Verbatim · June 13, 2015, 08:43:41 AM

Quote from: Mad Max on June 13, 2015, 02:03:00 AM

too bad that's a load of horse shit and they still teach math the way they always did.

the only thing they've changed is what kind of math they teach in each grade.

that can't be the only hing they've changed

🍁 Aria 🔮 · June 13, 2015, 08:43:50 AM

Quote from: Mad Max on June 13, 2015, 02:03:00 AM

too bad that's a load of horse shit and they still teach math the way they always did.

the only thing they've changed is what kind of math they teach in each grade.

They've done away with times tables at the three middle schools my brother attended.

Common Core wouldn't have been a problem if they would have just started with changing the standards at a Kindergarten level, and continued it through the class's graduation. The biggest problem is the massive shift in standards leaving gaps in the classroom knowledge of students.

Verbatim · June 13, 2015, 08:51:11 AM

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They've done away with times tables at the three middle schools my brother attended.

!!!

🍁 Aria 🔮 · June 13, 2015, 08:52:29 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 13, 2015, 08:51:11 AM

Quote from: Prime Example on June 13, 2015, 08:43:50 AM
They've done away with times tables at the three middle schools my brother attended.
!!!

Yeah, they switched to manipulatives.

Sandtrap · June 13, 2015, 09:27:35 AM

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Quote from: Verbatim on June 13, 2015, 08:51:11 AM
Quote from: Prime Example on June 13, 2015, 08:43:50 AM
They've done away with times tables at the three middle schools my brother attended.
!!!
Yeah, they switched to manipulatives.

Educate me.

What the fuck are manipulatives.

Verbatim · June 13, 2015, 09:31:18 AM

Quote from: Sandtrap on June 13, 2015, 09:27:35 AM

Educate me.

What the fuck are manipulatives.

to my understanding, they're like physical objects that you fuck about with, and you can glean from them various mathematical concepts

which i don't oppose--tactile learning/firsthand learning is kinda how i like to be taught things

think Legos and shit

Sandtrap · June 13, 2015, 09:35:59 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 13, 2015, 09:31:18 AM

Quote from: Sandtrap on June 13, 2015, 09:27:35 AM
Educate me.

What the fuck are manipulatives.
to my understanding, they're like physical objects that you fuck about with, and you can glean from them various mathematical concepts

which i don't oppose--tactile learning/firsthand learning is kinda how i like to be taught things

think Legos and shit

That seems....very dependent. You ain't gonna carry a big rubix cube type deal on you later on in life to solve math problems or remember your various math tables.

Of course older people just use calculators. But still.

Seems awkward. I remember my multiplication tables because one of my teachers turned them into songs. Sticks like glue.

DAS B00T x2 · June 13, 2015, 09:42:06 AM

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They've done away with times tables at the three middle schools my brother attended.
!!!
Yeah, they switched to manipulatives.

dese fucking things were awesome

rC · June 13, 2015, 10:25:26 AM

Quote from: Prime Example on June 13, 2015, 08:43:50 AM

Quote from: Mad Max on June 13, 2015, 02:03:00 AM
too bad that's a load of horse shit and they still teach math the way they always did.

the only thing they've changed is what kind of math they teach in each grade.
They've done away with times tables at the three middle schools my brother attended.

dude what

I learned times tables in ~~third grade~~...

Second grade actually, but the third grade math class.

Mad Max · June 13, 2015, 10:56:27 AM

Nowhere in the common core materials does it outline HOW to teach a subject, only what subjects are covered at what grade levels. Any teachers pulling that shit are doing it on their own.

Forgewolf · June 13, 2015, 01:21:41 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on June 12, 2015, 10:24:47 PM

I'm not even sure you can teach creativity.

True, but we can create an environment that nourishes, instead of deprives creativity.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · June 13, 2015, 09:50:45 PM

Quote from: Mad Max on June 13, 2015, 10:56:27 AM

Nowhere in the common core materials does it outline HOW to teach a subject, only what subjects are covered at what grade levels. Any teachers pulling that shit are doing it on their own.

The federal government may not mandate that it's taught a specific way, but on the state/county level it's possiblly true.

Mad Max · June 13, 2015, 11:33:54 PM

Quote from: Prime Example on June 13, 2015, 09:50:45 PM

Quote from: Mad Max on June 13, 2015, 10:56:27 AM
Nowhere in the common core materials does it outline HOW to teach a subject, only what subjects are covered at what grade levels. Any teachers pulling that shit are doing it on their own.
The federal government may not mandate that it's taught a specific way, but on the state/county level it's possiblly true.

Possible - sure. But that isn't what's happening. The "HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THIS CRAZY WAY OF DOING MATH" is mostly just viral conservative bullshit to smear Common Core as some liberal propaganda to enslave children to shitty ways of thinking.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · June 13, 2015, 11:48:29 PM

I'm still not a fan of Common Core; it's touted as the opposite of "no child left behind" while essentially being the same thing. All they've done is swap out learning milestones; and we won't even know if that had any effect for a few years.

Verbatim · June 13, 2015, 11:50:14 PM

Neither am I. I just... I mean, I'm all for education reform, but...

Mad Max · June 13, 2015, 11:50:38 PM

Quote from: Prime Example on June 13, 2015, 11:48:29 PM

I'm still not a fan of Common Core; it's touted as the opposite of "no child left behind" while essentially being the same thing. All they've done is swap out learning milestones; and we won't even know if that had any effect for a few years.

Well it's better than doing fuck-all of nothing and hoping to achieve better results, which is what our previous system was.