What news outlets went into detail over it?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jan/24/journalists-charged-felonies-trump-inauguration-unrestTrump's administration is having journalists (...) charged with felonies
What exactly does Trump's administration have to do with it? They were arrested and arraigned by the city.
This. Trump probably has a decent amount of influence over the Attorney General's decisions, but this seems to be all local law enforcement and judiciary. I don't think it's fair to pin this on Trump.
And people think I'm reactionary... Turkey is absolutely right and this is just Metropolitan Police freaking out and arresting anyone near the scenes of disturbance.
Quote from: H. T. on January 24, 2017, 09:26:35 PMWhat exactly does Trump's administration have to do with it? They were arrested and arraigned by the city.Quote from: Flee on January 25, 2017, 03:25:48 AMThis. Trump probably has a decent amount of influence over the Attorney General's decisions, but this seems to be all local law enforcement and judiciary. I don't think it's fair to pin this on Trump.>be an obvious authoritarian>be a "law & order" president (his words)>supports private prison industry>blames media for being liars even when they're observably correct>wants to sue the media out of business for doing their jobIt's hard for me to not see a trickle-down effect here. Law enforcement (especially the FBI) loves Trump since he'll let them take the gloves off. All the better if the pesky media is afraid or otherwise unable to do their job as watchdog.
>blames media for being liars
I see a lot of correlation and zero causation.
Eric Adams, co-founder of 100 Blacks in Law Enforcement Who Care, said he was particularly outraged that Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Safir released details from Mr. Dorismond's criminal record from 1987, when he was a juvenile and the case file was sealed by the court.
Palantir gained notoriety in 2011 after the hacking collective LulzSec dumped thousands of hacked emails from HBGary Federal, a firm collaborating with Palantir to pitch clients, revealing plans to use Palantir’s data analysis tools on a project to spy on labor unions, journalists, and activist groups on behalf of business interests. The proposal detailed a variety of surveillance techniques, including a PowerPoint presentation calling for the use of malware to steal data from target computers. Palantir and HBGary Federal denied that the plans were acted upon and said they were merely part of an ongoing discussion, though the hacked emails revealed that the chief executive and board of Palantir signed off on the proposal.
To be fair on this one, the media did objectively lie during his President-elect status. They fucking said he had a piss fetish with Russians. I'd be anal about the media too if they were running off with stories like that.
I'm not seeing it. Gotta disagree with you fully. The protests and arrests took place before Trump was even president. This happened in DC, a left-leaning stronghold. I'd be the first to call out Trump on his bullshit if I thought he was actually involved, but I see zero causation here.Reporters got caught up in protests at the biggest political event in years. Thousands of protesters, riots and violence was expected. The police acted firmly and took aim at the most unruly and violent ones. And as unfortunate as it is, these people got caught up in the crowd and were mistaken for something they're not. In the middle of the tensions and the mess, I can't honestly blame the police for this either. Biggest thing here is their appearance. These guys don't look like reporters in the traditional sense. They don't wear jackets with "PRESS" on them. They're not standing at the sideline with a crew, van and cameraman. These people were independent freelance journalists, documentary producers and even "live-streamers". They're running in the middle of protesting and out of control crowds with nothing more than a smartphone in their hand to stream, tweet or record what's going on, which is exactly what thousands of non-journalists were doing that day too. >police identify rioters and excessive protesters>take the entire group down and arrest them>"dude I'm press can't you tell by the fact I'm holding an iphone and am flashing you a card?">ok buddy, no time for this so you're just going with the others because you were undistinguishably a part of this crowdIf they are indeed just press they should definitely get off and anything else would be unacceptable. But blaming this on Trump? Nah man, these were just reporters that didn't look any different from the protesters and rioters so they got caught up in the police arresting parts of the crowd. You can say it's excessive, but I don't agree with what you've said so far.
To be fair on this one, the media did objectively lie during his President-elect status. They fucking said he had a piss fetish with Russians. I'd be anal about the media too if they were running off with stories like that. Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on January 25, 2017, 09:11:13 AM>blames media for being liars
Only one 'reputable' media outlet reported that detail from what I saw - every other outlet reported what CNN said, which is that President Obama and Trump were given a two page summary of the claims, without going into detail. Trump and his team lumped both together, when they shouldn't have.
The media said that there was high credibility to those claims though.
Basically they wanted to run the story but wanted to be absolved of responsibility so we heard nonstop "The sources from Buzzfeed are very much credible!" without actually telling us what makes it credible.
All the while no one would report all the debunking that was going on.
The New York TimesKeep in mind they did mention Trump receiving the report of the allegations, but they did cover what was in the "report" and and went into detail. It wasn't just briefing Trump on the memo. They also mention that the intelligence agencies find the leaker highly credible, even if they can't verify the claims; CNN does this as well.
Oddly enough, I can't get anything out of the WaPo at all. The only mention of the event comes from a blog post on urine jokes trending after it occurred. Either WaPo removed their articles on the subject or they have odd search specifics to get to their important articles because keywords such as "Trump Russia Memo" doesn't bring up anything on their site other than recent post-inauguration events and the blog post mentioned earlier.
Quote from: Luciana on January 24, 2017, 09:17:34 PMhttps://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jan/24/journalists-charged-felonies-trump-inauguration-unrestTrump's administration is having journalists (...) charged with feloniesWhat exactly does Trump's administration have to do with it? They were arrested and arraigned by the city.
Mass arrests are questionably legal and probably a civil rights violation. We don't need to normalize this behavior.